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[Dave G fsi]

Two stroke fiesta, thats certainly different, never knew about these!

[Excursion]

Wow, cool.

I've seen some cool stuff at work; Mk1 and Mk2 Focus RS 4x4's

the ones Ford used during development?

Yeah, one's matt black

[Excursion]

So, almost a year on it's proven that I wasn't imagining things - the Haynes museum has one of the prototype 1.2 3cyl 2T fiestas on display, in near mint condition. Info reveals it was powered by an Orbital developed engine and was actually capable of passing the then-current emissions legislation.

I've been looking at this some more and I'm a bit puzzled; the connector design and especially that alternator seem to be post-Mk3 era, do we have a date for this?

[Capri]

So, almost a year on it's proven that I wasn't imagining things - the Haynes museum has one of the prototype 1.2 3cyl 2T fiestas on display, in near mint condition. Info reveals it was powered by an Orbital developed engine and was actually capable of passing the then-current emissions legislation.

I've been looking at this some more and I'm a bit puzzled; the connector design and especially that alternator seem to be post-Mk3 era, do we have a date for this?

1992, as verified by pics I have here of the prototypes on J-plates.

[Excursion]

1992, as verified by pics I have here of the prototypes on J-plates.

Cheers, that's interesting. There must be a long take-to-market time with some of that stuff. The Alternator and connectors weren't used until the Mk4 Fiesta

[MotorcyclesFish]

1989 Fiesta III Diesel. Experimental 2-Stroke

Is it definitely a diesel? I was given to believe that diesel 2-strokes typically (although by no means definitively) operate a poppet valve exhaust and I can see no cam driving gear, which would indicate to me that this is a petrol item? Furthermore, those 3 items on the front look a lot like coil-on-plug setups. Also, I thought a direct injection 2-stroke is meant to be used to allow a sump bottom end without the need for total loss lubrication? Perhaps this is an intermediary step with EFI regulating mixture only, rather than a true injection-to-combustion-chamber direct injection (ref. Aprilia Ditech). I suppose that diesel fuel would be a better lubricator of the bottom end than petrol though!

I may be wildly off the mark; it has been known, but some things don't seem right here.

Mark: If the engine was produced as a package by Orbital as suggested, connectors would not be Ford Europe items? Speaking of connectors, big lols at the choccy blocks to the nearside of the alternator.

Alex: Good info mate.

[fiend]

Wow, cool.

I've seen some cool stuff at work; Mk1 and Mk2 Focus RS 4x4's

the ones Ford used during development?

Yeah, one's matt black

Oh that sounds awesome! Don't suppose you have any pictures?

[Excursion]

Oh that sounds awesome! Don't suppose you have any pictures?

Afraid not; cameras aren't allowed in Dunton, and the cars have already been crushed.

[Excursion]

1989 Fiesta III Diesel. Experimental 2-Stroke

Is it definitely a diesel? I was given to believe that diesel 2-strokes typically (although by no means definitively) operate a poppet valve exhaust and I can see no cam driving gear, which would indicate to me that this is a petrol item? Furthermore, those 3 items on the front look a lot like coil-on-plug setups. Also, I thought a direct injection 2-stroke is meant to be used to allow a sump bottom end without the need for total loss lubrication? Perhaps this is an intermediary step with EFI regulating mixture only, rather than a true injection-to-combustion-chamber direct injection (ref. Aprilia Ditech). I suppose that diesel fuel would be a better lubricator of the bottom end than petrol though!

I may be wildly off the mark; it has been known, but some things don't seem right here.

Mark: If the engine was produced as a package by Orbital as suggested, connectors would not be Ford Europe items? Speaking of connectors, big lols at the choccy blocks to the nearside of the alternator.

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I agree, it's a petrol engine for sure.

RE: Connectors. The engine would be supplied by Orbital but no doubt it's fitted to the chassis in Dunton. I've seen all sorts of prototypes in the workshops on my lunch hour. That Alt is a 1.25 Zetec Mk4 Fiesta item and so are the connectors. Ford parts bin stuff

[dangerousdave]

why did they get crushed mate??

[Excursion]

:o why did they get crushed mate??

Sadly, all of the prototypes do. It's for both legal and cost reasons. In a lot of cases it's actually cheaper to scrap/dispose of the car rather then break it down.

A lot of the less radical prototypes do get broken, and end up stripped by a company called 'Environ'. These tend to be pretty standard cars with trim or engine calibration changes.

[dangerousdave]

should of sold it me for scrap value!!

[mtbdean]

I seen a MK4 at one of the shows, but it was a different design, still looked sweet

[xrsi]

mark mate the alt ould have gone and been retro fitted as there are scotch block connectors just by it if you look closely!!!

[XRMike]

Wow, you learn something new everyday! I want one!

[G-Muzzy]

round my area they have quick as fook BMW 5 series estates gotta be 3.0 diesel. and also the octavia VRS

but there newest edition.... evo X

[Excursion]

Chaps I've found a little more info on the 2-stroke. It's in a book at work (Ford). I'll scan it if anyones interested.

The Engine is the Ford 'KHD'.

[Rhinopower]

Please do share

[Dave G fsi]

Ooooooo, let us know more!

[fiend]

bump for the scans.

[Tweek]

Bump for a couple more pics after seeing it in the flesh I wonder if Microcat has anything on it

[dontpannic]

The plot thickens.

Nice info there Wayne!

[dangerousdave]

dam, cant see the full reg or you could see what info could be found on tax and insurance sites lol

[Tweek]

dam, cant see the full reg or you could see what info could be found on tax and insurance sites lol

NHK

[Max M4X WW]

Cheers, that's interesting. There must be a long take-to-market time with some of that stuff. The Alternator and connectors weren't used until the Mk4 Fiesta

I thought the same.

Anyone got the link to the cop car? I cant find it

[Max M4X WW]

Ok I cant find it as this was ages ago

Its registered as a 1.2 LX, Tax liability in 96 so was used for three years.

6 Months Rate £68.75
12 Months Rate £125.00

[rst-steve]

Very cool that, never heard of that one before

[fezzRS]

reocn they shoudl of fitted a turbo to a 1.1 bet it wud of bin nippy

[fiestakingfisher]

Anyone got any pics of the mk3 Police car??