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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:59 am

Been doing loadsa research on different types of chips available.

I've made my own assuptions on the pro's and con's but I would realy appreciate peoples opinions if they have or know someone who has a chipped zetec.

Motorsport developments EVO CHIP

Seems to be a good choice. The chip is set up for an individual car. The price i beleive is around the £250 and it seems like a good bet but i dont think anyone else can map them - only Motorsport Developments in Blackpool.

UNI-CHIP

Got a quote from interpro in bristol on this. Its fully mappable so great for any further mods or just a general tune up. Supplied, setup and fitted is £450. Seems pricey but again a good idea.

Superchips

Can get one supplied and fitted but it seems that these are just of the shelf jobs and are generic - so there not custom set up for a certain car, there preprogrammed. I can get one supplied and fitted for £185

Bayjoo Chip

Apparently this guy is the daddy but pricey. It will cost about the same as a unichip but can only be setup by Ahmed himself. If he's not avalible and i need something done i think i'd be a bit stuck!

So if any of you have one on a rs1800/16v 2i i would really appreciate your views.

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Postby chumkila on Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:37 pm

Si i have seen alot of Uni-chip's set up and their results and i'd defo recommend this setup over any of the others listed above. :)
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Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Thu Feb 06, 2003 2:58 pm

i have a superchip chip on my RS1800 and to tell the truth it dont seem to do much except make a nice rally style poppin noise. id much rather have a mappable one .
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Postby Quantum John on Thu Feb 06, 2003 3:05 pm

Simon,

Superchips dealers are able to map their chips. Sanspeed are doing mine. They started off with a standard 195 chip and are altering the mapping on it.

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Postby Fiestasi-Andy on Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:33 pm

i have a Motorsport developments EVO CHIP top guys they know their stuff
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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 4:43 pm

yeah but whats it like?

Quantam J - The only number i have for Sanspeed is 020 8690 9924. They never answer!

I am running a N/A zetec so i wonder what they can do for me...
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Postby chumkila on Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:13 pm

Sanspeed - Tel: 020 8303 4314 / 020 8301 4676 (Graham Sansom) :wink:

John do u know if the new remappable Superchip has other facility/controls like the Uni-chip that are able to utilise 5th Injectors etc?? Be curious to compare.
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Postby Phil Si on Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:20 pm

mmmm can i have a fish with mine sir? and curry sauce :D
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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:51 pm

Just had a lengthy convosation with Graham @ Sanspeed.

They can map my current XR2i 16v ECU to run RS1800 spec items - such as cams and throttle bodies.

This chip only works on suttle mods like cams/zorsts/filter changes - but at £323 seems very pricey for what it actually is...

Also been doing some research on the XR2i / Rs 1800 ECU's.

It appears the only difference is not just the mapping. Apparently RS1800 have a faster processing speed than the XR2i and a few other differences.

At the minute, a uni-chip looks like my only choice......
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Postby Phil Si on Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:58 pm

what u planning on doing si? uprating things to the 130ps model?
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Postby chumkila on Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:01 pm

Si the RS1800 runs a Ford EEC-IV with advanced chip. It IS the chip that is the difference between the XR2i 16v & itself.
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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:12 pm

If thats the case Chum motorsports developmets have mislead me into thinking otherwise!!!!

I wont be buying a chip from them!!!
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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:14 pm

Phil - I scrapped the 2.0 idea. Long story. Catch me on MSN.

I decided to keep it 1.8 and hopefully show a few 2.0 up!!

If only I had £1400 and Excursion was close by... ;)
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Postby chumkila on Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:18 pm

The Unichip scores over the chips u've mentioned above as it has outputs for extra injectors etc that the standard ecu has no control over. However there are very few people in the country with the hardware to re-map fords eec-iv ECU's so most tuners rely on a plug in chip wheraas the Uni-chip comes in 2 parts and one is acutally soldered onto the ECU circuit. :wink:
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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:51 pm

I think we have knocked up a pretty good post here chum.

I think the general opinion is if you gotta zetec, a UNICHIP is th eonly real way to go!!

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Postby Phil Si on Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:58 pm

u rekon a decent power figure could be had with a 2.0 head work, and a uni chip, along with the usual zorst and filter? also could it be mapped for decent fuel economy?
i cant afford one.. but i was curious for future :)
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Postby Project on Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:12 pm

I still have a 1992-1994 RS1800 ECU available Si ;)
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Postby SimonT on Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:16 pm

Al I will have it. name ya price
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Postby excursionv2 on Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:28 pm

I personally dont think zetec chips are worth the money mate - I had one on the 2 litre and it made a slight bit of difference but not much.

I'd rather spend the money converting a 4 branch manifold and upgrading to 2 litre
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Postby chumkila on Thu Feb 06, 2003 8:29 pm

Phil Si :u rekon a decent power figure could be had with a 2.0 head work, and a uni chip, along with the usual zorst and filter? also could it be mapped for decent fuel economy?
i cant afford one.. but i was curious for future :)


Phil i would say yes from what i've seen from Unichip setup's, from those mods u will be looking at a healthy reliable and economical figure.

But as always the map is only as good as the mapper.
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Postby Fiestasi-Andy on Fri Feb 07, 2003 8:07 am

excursionv2 :I personally dont think zetec chips are worth the money mate - I had one on the 2 litre and it made a slight bit of difference but not much.

I'd rather spend the money converting a 4 branch manifold and upgrading to 2 litre


god i did notice a difference, pulled ALOT better, nice little kick, nothing to big but u can feel it :)
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Postby Quantum John on Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:09 pm

Replying a bit late I guess...looks like Graham has explain to you what you wanted to know about the superchip.

What's it like? Well, not great at the moment because the fuelling still needs playing with!

The thing with mapable chips is that they can be altered to suit the way YOU like it (within reason). It is very difficult to describe what it is like without directly comparing it with something similar. The only way you would be able to tell exactly how each chip performed is to try them all on the same car as every car is different (mods, condition, mileage, age, etc)

Once you've decided which chip you are going to go for, you then have to do all the research for the best tuner. Another worthwhile post!

Good luck with whatever you chose.

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Postby SimonT on Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:31 pm

you predicted my next post!!

Any chance of a spin in the motor (i note group 4 scort there!) next itme your in crayford?

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Postby Quantum John on Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:33 pm

Si,
That would be fine - if I hadn't just started to re-wire it!

I'll let you know once it is back up and running.
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Postby fiesta_fras on Fri Feb 07, 2003 11:57 pm

i thk the rs1800 ecu is different from the XR one , i wouldnt be surprised if the chips inside where different, the mapping is certainly different.

i am going to go motorsport development for now, along with some kent cams and verniers and my soon to have tube torque exhuast, only looking for around 140-145 bhp before i get the turbo convresion sorted out
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Postby TURBOHERM on Sat Feb 08, 2003 2:43 pm

I'm gonna go with motorsport development for my stage 1 chip and uprated actuator too.

They make the chips themselves and seem reasonably priced!

Then when I get it rolled, I will see if the chip does what it says on the tin!! :bonkers:
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Postby SimonT on Sat Feb 08, 2003 3:45 pm

Fraser - my engine will hopefully be around the same spec as yours when its done. can you let me know when you get the chip what you think of it?

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