mk4 into mk3 interior light fitting guide (pics) fao m4x xx

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Postby jossyboy on Thu May 13, 2004 4:09 pm

right here we go,
you will need:-
-mk4 interior light
-stanley knife
-electrical tape
-pliers
-drill
-hacksaw
-file (or dremmel cutting tool)
first you need to cut out a section of the headlining with a stanley knife, the indented part around the light but leave an inch or so spare

the light will have 3 spade clips on take these off and insulate them so they don't touch anything (i got through plenty of 15a fuses finding this out) connect these to the new light i'm not sure which goes where but a bit of trial and error should do the trick. You want it so the light comes on when the door is open with the switch in the middle.

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the roof needs to have some holes cut in it to accomadate the new fixings don't worry though no-one will see it so bodge it up as much as you like. I used a drill some pliers and a file but you would be better off using a dremmel or saw-drill bit.

Measure the prong things on the light, the distance between, how wide the are and how deep they are ind transfer this onto the metal. drill a pilot hole (don't press too hard or you'll end up with dents in your roof) best off tho put some tape on to stop the drill slipping. then cut out the holes to the measurements you have just taken. it should look something like this

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now it's time to trial fit your lamp i cut the plastic support bits on the side of the metal prongs to make it fit better but if you wanted to be real professional you could allow for these in your roof holes. I also used my pliers to squash the prongs in for a looser fit. if your lamp fits but won't sit flush like mine did get a big hammer and bash it in, seriously dont worry about your roof cause it's a separate piece of metal. finish in some anti rust paint and (in the words of neil buchannon) it should look something like this



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Postby Sunil_FiestaRS_16V on Thu May 13, 2004 4:11 pm

just wondering what the difference between a mk4 and mk3 light is
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Postby jossyboy on Thu May 13, 2004 4:15 pm

mk4 is bigger and looks smoother and offers a brighter light

oh and incase anyone asks i dont know about the ghia one with the map lights but i hear the witring is the same
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Postby Project on Thu May 13, 2004 4:50 pm

Wiring is the same for the Ghia one - I might have a go at fitting mine on Sat.

Think this counts as a guide :)

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Postby Excursion on Thu May 13, 2004 7:36 pm

vey worthwhile mod, the switch on the standard light is crap.
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Postby STOKE7UP on Thu May 13, 2004 10:35 pm

excellent excellent top job now can you do one to fitting a mk5 headlining :D
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Re: excellent

Postby xrsi on Thu May 13, 2004 11:45 pm

STOKE7UP :excellent excellent top job now can you do one to fitting a mk5 headlining :D


its a very easy thing to do... all ive gotta do on mine is cut the bit that goes above the rear 1/4 windows as the shpe of the rear at the top is slightly different! oh and also due to the fitting of the windscreen, you can see it from the outside slightly!

done both of these like 18months ago! ive got the map lights from the ghia x in mine tho :P
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Postby phatboy on Sun May 23, 2004 11:06 pm

did you find that the back of the fitting doesnt quite meet the roof due to the angle being slightly different? I evo-sticked mine to sort this
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Postby ~Tony~ on Mon May 24, 2004 11:48 am

cool will defo have a go at this the light in mine is s**t. what model do you get the one with maplightd from?

mk....let us know some one please :-?
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Postby jossyboy on Wed May 26, 2004 10:12 am

i think ALL the ghia models have them, i might do this if i find a decent one :wink:
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Postby Percy! on Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:08 pm

Anyone know what the bulb is in a MK4, I want a blue bulb!

Just got my MK4 light so will be trying this when I can be bothered!
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Postby jossyboy on Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:40 am

i've just put an led blue bulb in but the bulb i got was wrong but i bent the connectors to make it fit it was one with the cap on both ends like a tube but it was slightly smaller than the normal bulb so i had to make it fit
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Postby Max M4X WW on Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:42 pm

I got one of the most expensive 9-led white bulbs from http://www.ultraleds.co.uk/

Works good..

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Eventually got it in, Had to literally remove the whole of the back of the light to get it in though! And you can see the arwldite seeping out :(
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Postby jossyboy on Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:36 am

nice one mate i see you managed it, i was gonna take some pics but mines got a bit of a loose connection somewhere so i didnt want to mess with it. only prob i have with mine is i was a bit enthusiastic with the stanley and you can see the cut edge from the passenger side, oh well
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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:39 am

Mine seems to flicker when i turn it on manually :(
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Postby kcabmi2004 on Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:42 pm

Hmm i don't like it when people play around then tape up electrics in cars, spells F.i.R.E to me :(
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Postby morpheus on Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:52 pm

kcabmi2004 :Hmm i don't like it when people play around then tape up electrics in cars, spells F.i.R.E to me :(


[ERRR] are fuses for hehe...

mine wouln't fit, i ended up chopping so much off the light, will try better on my new car...
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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:55 pm

Yea mine has NOTHING left. Its glued in. Will see how it stands up when i drive my car for more than 5mins a month!
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Postby morpheus on Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:59 pm

Max M4X WW :Yea mine has NOTHING left. Its glued in. Will see how it stands up when i drive my car for more than 5mins a month!


hehe lol, i might make a template from the mk4 2 cut out on my car, will out the dimensions on here if anyone is interested.....
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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:02 pm

Mk4 ones clip into the headlining and its a different shape i think.
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Postby morpheus on Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:29 pm

Max M4X WW :Mk4 ones clip into the headlining and its a different shape i think.


the metal bit u on about? its different, but im making a template so i can cut mine the same as the mk4....
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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:45 pm

Yea, But when i looked at my friends old mk4 the light clipped into the headlining and not into metal where as everythings different on mk3's and the clips didnt seem to lign up anywhere.
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Postby jossyboy on Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:42 pm

no i saw when i removed the light i used they do clip into the metal but i took the measurements for the holes i cut from the light itself best way to make sure it fits. the only problem i had was the metal bit stuck out too much on the inside of the roof of my car so i had to tw8t it with a big hammer
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Postby wilkesy23 on Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:52 pm

I haven't started mine yet, but looking at it... There is a fold of metal where about the wires/plugs go between the roof and the ceiling... is it safe to cut a bit of this out to accomodate the wires... or could I prehaps move the clips around on the light itself so they are point towards the screen rather than the back...

If you get me!!!
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Postby AGAR on Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:15 pm

Had a go at fitting it on Wednesday afternoon - didn't get far, cutting the roof holes is a total bugger. Ive drilled it then attempted to file it down but its not doing much use, any ideas?

Anyone else have the problem of your arms getting numb since they were above your head for about 2 hours :lol:
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Postby AGAR on Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:56 pm

BTT!

Got mine fitted today - wil need to superglue it in properly later.

Does anyones light actually come on when the doors are open? My standard one didn't either so i had a look at the contacts and they are perished. Any ideas what to do?
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Postby Max M4X WW on Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:06 pm

Contacts? Its probably the door switches.
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Postby Badgerboy on Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:56 am

Any idea on a price for a new Ghia spec one from Ford?
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Postby AGAR on Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:11 pm

Badgerboy :Any idea on a price for a new Ghia spec one from Ford?


Theres always ones on ebay going cheap - thats where i got mine.

Max what exact type of LED did you get, i was on the website last night and couldn't find a suitable one.
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Postby Max M4X WW on Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:02 pm

The longest one of that shape :oooh:
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Postby Percy! on Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:47 pm

Max, you know you said you removed most of the back of the light, does this mean it goes on without cutting the metal in the roof?

Just for referance I just found the right bulb in minutes on the website you mentioned, looks like I will have to be having one of those, seen a similar thing in halfrauds for £20!
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Postby AGAR on Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:04 pm

Percy! :Max, you know you said you removed most of the back of the light, does this mean it goes on without cutting the metal in the roof?

Just for referance I just found the right bulb in minutes on the website you mentioned, looks like I will have to be having one of those, seen a similar thing in halfrauds for £20!


Care to give me the link to the right page or even the part number for the correct bulb?

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Postby Tilston on Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:29 pm

my effort

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Postby AGAR on Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:52 pm

:o Nice one - do all three lights switch on?
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Postby Tilston on Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:51 pm

yeah they do!!! not sure about the alarm sensor though i havent wired it up yet!
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