1.1 HCS engine?

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1.1 HCS engine?

Postby Blackie on Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:33 pm

I know that this index does not normally include the 1.1 engine, but I want to know what you can do (tuning wise!) to the HCS engine to make it a tad sharper?

I couldnt be rs'd to fit a cvh engine, and I am having problem's sourcing a 1.3 pushrod engine in the green island here! So any help would be appreciated.

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Postby FezzR on Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:17 pm

honestly u cant do a thing to make it preform any better! well u could but it would cost less to do a transplant! :o
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Postby Jesser on Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:48 pm

Dont bother mate, just save for bigger and better engine..
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Postby Canwell on Mon Jul 01, 2002 9:56 pm

it really is a waste of time trying to tune a 1.1 up, trust me i've tried. get an exhaust and air filter which will make it sound like its got performance, then just mod the body and interior, oh and ICE.
the best way of making it quicker is visit ur local scrappy and see if there is any 1.3 escorts/fiestas with good engines, then its fairly easy to swap em over.

there is another way - that is if ya got cash to burn! recon the engine, cam, polished ports etc. speak to frasier massey, he got about 90bhp out of his 1.1, but it costed him fcuk loads. really aint worth it tho. i got pissed off with my slow 1.1 so i bought a 1.6 and i'm, selling the 1.1 and there aint really much money being spend.
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Postby Blackie on Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:50 pm

I have managed to find a 1.3 pushrod engine(at last!). I would love to go bigger, but because of the price of insurance over here(I'm payin £769 TPFT!!) I can't afford anything much bigger than a 1.3 :( .

Although 90bhp from a 1.1 sound's amazing(and impossible!!)!!

I noticed, through reading the tech spech in the Haynes manual that the 1.1 Weber(2v)TLDM carb has larger venturi than the 1.3 Weber(2v)TLDM carb.(1.1 Primary = 26mm, Secondary = 28mm and the 1.3 Primary = 19mm, Secondary = 20mm) The main jet on the primary is also larger but the main jet on the secondary is the same size.

In theory this should mean that if I were to fit the 1.1 carb to the 1.3 engine it should give it a little boost. Do you agree??
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Postby FezzR on Thu Jul 04, 2002 12:40 pm

Blackie :I have managed to find a 1.3 pushrod engine(at last!). I would love to go bigger, but because of the price of insurance over here(I'm payin £769 TPFT!!) I can't afford anything much bigger than a 1.3 :( .

Although 90bhp from a 1.1 sound's amazing(and impossible!!)!!

I noticed, through reading the tech spech in the Haynes manual that the 1.1 Weber(2v)TLDM carb has larger venturi than the 1.3 Weber(2v)TLDM carb.(1.1 Primary = 26mm, Secondary = 28mm and the 1.3 Primary = 19mm, Secondary = 20mm) The main jet on the primary is also larger but the main jet on the secondary is the same size.

In theory this should mean that if I were to fit the 1.1 carb to the 1.3 engine it should give it a little boost. Do you agree??




ummmmmm???????? AL u wann aanswer that one???? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Blackie on Thu Jul 04, 2002 11:25 pm

I realise that the carb on it's own is not goin to make a massive difference, but it should make a little difference?
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Postby FezzR on Thu Jul 04, 2002 11:48 pm

Have no idea about the figure involved but if u increase the fueling u will have to get the ecu (has it got on) or what ever set up to account for the extra fuel! so its not as simple as just chucking more fuel in :x
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Postby Blackie on Fri Jul 05, 2002 11:48 pm

Bein a carb, there is no ecu to tinker with, but the problem might be that she might not fuel enuff at the top end of the rev range, with it bein designed/fitted to the 1.1.

The bigger carb is not only goin to chuck in more fuel but more air as well.

More fuel and air in = more power out.

Although gettin rid of the gasses afterward's is just as important!!
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Postby FezzR on Sat Jul 06, 2002 12:16 am

I thought the HCS was a single point injection through a carb unit(of sort) with an ECU!??? :-? BUT I DONT KNOW REALLY
BUT I HAVE A 3.5 1.1 WHICH HAS CARB(of sort) ecu AND SINGLE POINT INJECTION

come on then calling Sunny Al Ade to set the record cos i know nout! :x
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Postby Canwell on Sat Jul 06, 2002 12:28 am

didnt think cfi's had a ecu?
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Postby FezzR on Sat Jul 06, 2002 12:38 am

ut oh i dot cfi and hcs mixed up U WANKR oh well! :lol:
and i donno if all cfi's have ecu`s and i donno if there conventional ecus of special ones!
but im pretty sure all the mk3.5 ones have ecu os some sort or another
mine has!
Can be a pain in the ass if u take the battery off because it resets the ecu and u have to drive around so it relearns its settings :rolleyes:
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Postby Fake XR2i on Sat Jul 06, 2002 11:19 pm

cfi's do have an ecu. Otherwise how would it know how much fuel to inject!?
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Postby G-Forze on Sun Jul 07, 2002 7:39 pm

I have a '92 1.3 HCS (I like the car much, the engine is sh!t). It has got an ECU, because it is an engine with monopoint injection in a carburettor.

Altough it has an ECU, I don't think it is possible to moderate it. The HCS engines are incredibly reliable, but don't expect much performance.
I think HCS-engines are for the elder people. That's the reason I don't like them either.

I would go for an engine transplant, or buy another (better) car. That's far cheaper indeed.
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Postby Blackie on Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:55 pm

My car was a 1.1 carb engine('92 motor)(check out the Haynes manual) althought the later fiesta's had an injection/cfi engine fitted. My car now has a '92 1.3 carb engine, although fitted with the carb from the 1.1, which does make a small difference!
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