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by **moose** on Thu Nov 15, 2001 3:16 pm

anybody had a 1.9 conversion from specialised engines? what are they like? pros, cons, price, extras, reliability, etc etc etc. any help appreciated.

by JJ on Thu Nov 15, 2001 5:52 pm

Very good.....my mate has a 1.9 low compression engine in his FRST, with a T3 and Ahmed map - good for around 280bhp and is fast as fcuk!! :eek:

by **fiesta_fras** on Thu Nov 15, 2001 8:09 pm

good reports, chk out their site http://www.specialisedengines.co.uk

they seem to break the 200bhp barrier all the time

by **bassboy** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 10:50 am

u'll still only be able to run around 16psi of reliable boost!

bassboy

by **Quantum** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 1:17 pm

It's a good conversion as the block is design to be a 1.9 and not a 1.6 bored out.

Regards,
Stephen

by **sunnyFRST** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 3:10 pm

On 2001-11-15 16:52, JJ wrote:
Very good.....my mate has a 1.9 low compression engine in his FRST, with a T3 and Ahmed map - good for around 280bhp and is fast as fcuk!!

- 280bhp (genuine) - thats alot of power!
And if Bassboy is right about maxing the boost upto just 16psi then - thats some serious power for just 16psi! :razz:

James - is your mates Fiesta really a genuine 280bhp? and what boost is he running and hey..... what kinda torque figures mate?

It's good to know that people really know what their talking about on this board :grin:

*cough cough*

Sunny.

by **chumkila** on Fri Nov 16, 2001 3:41 pm

Shakes head at Sunny! :wink:

by **fiesta_fras** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 6:31 am

I have seen the dyno print and car out of a guys SE 1.9 T3 with at least 240bhp, it was higher but it kept spinning on the rollers :eek:

by **sunnyFRST** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:30 am

On 2001-11-17 05:31, fiesta_fras wrote:

I have seen the dyno print and car out of a guys SE 1.9 T3 with at least 240bhp, it was higher but it kept spinning on the rollers

That is good genuine BHP and believable :wink:

by **sunnyFRST** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:30 am

On 2001-11-17 05:31, fiesta_fras wrote:

I have seen the dyno print and car out of a guys SE 1.9 T3 with at least 240bhp, it was higher but it kept spinning on the rollers

That is good genuine BHP and believable :wink:

by **fiesta_fras** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:34 am

it was in fast ford ages ago, very clean

by **xrsi** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:36 am

was thinking about getting one in the next year or so - what is the insurance like on a non turbo-ed one?!? what would be involved with going the turbo route on one and waht sort of cost and insurance are they?

by **sunnyFRST** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:51 am

ZETEC still the Daddy - No Comparision! :wink:

Sunny.

by **fiesta_fras** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:55 am

not for £ for bhp though, CVH still far cheaper to tune and it will be like that for at least another year

by **bassboy** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 8:18 am

Sunny, 16psi is correct as it came from one of the main guys from SE himself!!!....if it could handle more...Virdi was gonna go for it! the 1.9 will be able to handle more boost....but for how long is another question altogether!

bassboy

by **chumkila** on Sat Nov 17, 2001 11:33 am

Mmmmmmmmm....... a zetec with extras!! :wink:

.......... I like the sound of that! :eek:

**Hint Hint**Nudge Nudge**Wink WInk** :lol:

by **AdrianFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:20 pm

Depends if you like 80s technology or 90s? :wink:

There isn't a CVH turbo Fiesta on the planet that won't get it's arse kicked by a ZVH or 16v one!

If you need convincing ask Ian Howell, Sunny, Paul R, Bassboy, Momo, Paul J, Mike Gurney, Muffking, or Sketch, Dave Edwards, Jeff or any of the zvh / zetec guys on the RSOC board!

by **sunnyFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 2:34 pm

On 2001-11-18 11:20, AdrianFRST wrote:
Depends if you like 80s technology or 90s?

There isn't a CVH turbo Fiesta on the planet that won't get it's arse kicked by a ZVH or 16v one!

If you need convincing ask Ian Howell, Sunny, Paul R, Bassboy, Momo, Paul J, Mike Gurney, Muffking, or Sketch, Dave Edwards, Jeff or any of the zvh / zetec guys on the RSOC board!

Not entirely true (I know of a couple of fast'ish CVH turbo's) that might be slightly quicker than some low spec ZVH's).
However notice my point above when I am comparing :-
In general, only compare HIGH spec CVH's to LOW spec ZVH's and 16v Zetec Turbo's (even then most of the time the ZVH's will always come out on top) :wink:

Oh before any other Tuner wanna be wants to correct me - thats comming from Sir Ian Howell himself! :lol:

Sunny.
ps - This thread is not to run down anyones CVH Turbo engine's (Power is a factor of how fat your wallet is!)
I think I used to be considerably rich at one time :lol:

by **AdrianFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 2:46 pm

Nah, I meant for the fastest CVH Fiesta there will always be a ZVH or Zetec that is faster.

by **sunnyFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 3:01 pm

On 2001-11-18 13:46, AdrianFRST wrote:
Nah, I meant for the fastest CVH Fiesta there will always be a ZVH or Zetec that is faster.

Fastest CVH - Whats that!? :lol:

I am sure there are people out there that still aint seen the light and will claim they know someone with a CVH that is quicker than the fastest Zetec (you know what I am chatting about init Ade :lol:

)

by JJ on Sun Nov 18, 2001 4:41 pm

The car in question runs 18psi

bassboy - where _do_ you get your 'facts' from?!!! :rolleyes:

by **BeemanFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 5:03 pm

Can you get a 1.9 conversion for a 1.6 xr2, and what price are you lookin at, and what bhp are you lookin at.

by JJ on Sun Nov 18, 2001 7:22 pm

Out of interest Sunny, why are you spending soooo much money on a ZVH conversion when surely you could have gone the whole nine yards and converted your car to a Zetec 16V turbo, and had even more power??!!!!

by **sunnyFRST** on Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:06 pm

JJ - Without sounding rude.
I care not to comment on that remark as you dont know the technical technical spec of my new engine.
I can promise you one thing (this is also comming from Ian H and very few people that know the technical spec of my new engine) - I can quote that my engine will be more powerful than ANY 2.1 16v (inc Ian H's old Fiesta) in a fiesta so far.
All you need to do is sit back scratch your head and say "yeah right!" and wait for the proof! :lol:

SUNNY.

by **Project** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:32 am

Sunny, ffs please stop polishing this and that and get the bloody engine on the road! :lol:

Is it all getting there ok now or are you still deciding on the details??

Al

by **bcracknell** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:46 am

has anybody actually answered moose's question yet?
I may as well give a bit of an answer seeing as I have a SE 1.9+ stage 3 in my FRST.
Here goes, Reliablity - no problems yet, done about 3k so far and not a single problem.
price - cost £3.2k all in, thats for:

American 1850 'tall' block
(overbored 1mm I think)
cross hatch honed 83mm bore
american 88mm stroke crankshaft (small big end journal type?)
high flow oil pump
American modified con rods
American 83mm modified pistons
Felpro Head gasket
gas flowed big valve head - inlet 1.71" exhaust 1.5"
full engine balance
AP racing 3 part road clutch
Piper 285t2 camshaft

plus fitting, gaskets, coolant and oil - oh and a new water pump.

havn't given it toomuch spork yet as it's not had it's service and tune (this saturday!! hooray!) but it feels much more powerful than my old 1.6 150bhp.
overall I feel it's worth it, might seem pricey but bear in mind you drop the car off and pick it up 2 days later, no hassle no messy hands!!

Sunny, what bhp do you reckon? running 9psi boost and not been mapped by Ahmed yet. what do you reckon after?

by **sunnyFRST** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:44 am

On 2001-11-19 05:32, Project ST2000 wrote:

Sunny, ffs please stop polishing this and that and get the bloody engine on the road!

Is it all getting there ok now or are you still deciding on the details??

Al

I am killing myself and counting the days left until my car returns (dunno why, going to the bodyshop soon after - probably for ages again :sad:

)

by **sunnyFRST** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:46 am

On 2001-11-19 06:46, bcracknell wrote:
Sunny, what bhp do you reckon? running 9psi boost and not been mapped by Ahmed yet. what do you reckon after?

You havn't said what spec Turbo you got and Injectors.

Sunny.

by TJ on Mon Nov 19, 2001 9:08 am

just interupting, is Ahmed's surname bayjoo??

Or am i on the wrong track??

by **bcracknell** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 9:25 am

sunny,
before it's mapped: standard spec turbo and standard blue injectors.
after it's mapped: standard spec turbo, beige injectors and uprated fuel pump.

what do you reckon?

by **bcracknell** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 9:26 am

ps. Ahmeds surname is Bajoo

by JJ on Mon Nov 19, 2001 9:40 am

On 2001-11-18 20:06, sunnyFRST wrote:
JJ - Without sounding rude.
I care not to comment on that remark as you dont know the technical technical spec of my new engine.
I can promise you one thing (this is also comming from Ian H and very few people that know the technical spec of my new engine) - I can quote that my engine will be more powerful than ANY 2.1 16v (inc Ian H's old Fiesta) in a fiesta so far.
All you need to do is sit back scratch your head and say "yeah right!" and wait for the proof!

SUNNY.

sunny - you, sound rude?! Never! :rolleyes:

You're like a politician - never answering the question posed!!! :grin:

I'll ask again....why Ze-VH rather than Zetec 16V? If I've been listening to Ahmed correctly, surely the 16V head would flow more air than the 8V CVH head?

There's also an interesting post going on on the RSOC BB about ZVH/Zetec vs. CVH - maybe you'd care to post a comment?! :grin:

<A HREF="http://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=025920" TARGET="_blank">www.rsownersclub.co.uk/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=025920</A>

by **sunnyFRST** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:19 pm

all I can say old chappy - WATCH THIS SPACE :razz:

Yeah - I read the RSOC ubb quite alot and have seen that thread - too many people who chat alot of cr@p with diffierent opinions. I like to read and laugh at some of the things that get said :wink:

Proof is louder than posts on the internet - I will make history - I promise! :lol:

Sunny.

by **Phil Si** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 12:23 pm

quote from msm teh otehr day from sunny :wink:

"phil truth is i am going for the first ever turbo'd 1.0" :rolleyes:

by **sunnyFRST** on Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:05 pm

ssshhhh!!!! 1.0 revs quicker! :grin:

Sunny.

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