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[XRoriginal]

Hi guys,

I'm interested in getting my RS1800 upto around 150 ps. Can anyone recommend a cost efficient way to reach this and for the car to still be road legal?

Having searched it seems a superchip doesn't do much and induction kits suffer from heat soak thus decreasing power. Although, I'm wise enough to accept these are more driveability mods than bhp ones > something maybe to iron out lairy cams?

Cheers

[Oranoco]

Piper re-profiled cams
4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Proper exhaust system
2.0 throttle body
chip
K&N element in drilled air box

This little lot should have you pretty close to where you want to be

[XRoriginal]

hmmm..

Please correct me if these prices are wrong

cams (With followers) ~ £500
421 (ashley) ~ £170 although not a direct fit. Allow £50 for misc. work
Exhaust system £300
2.0 tb ~ £40.
chip £100 (2nd hand)
filter element £40

Over a grand . Makes you think.

[martyc]

call me stupid but.....
whats the difference between the 2.0 tb and the rs1800 one? i thought they were both 54mm??

[goaty]

i thought they were the same too.

[Oranoco]

XR Original: Some people want to retain the cars identity by keeping with th eoriginal power plant. I for one consider an RST with anything other than a blown CVH in place a bit of an odd ball. Not detracting from ZVH and Zetec turbo achievements but with those engines in they are no longer what they started out as.

The benefits with the tuning I mentioned in my forst post is it can all be done in stages as and when funds allow. It also doesn't require grief from the DVLA when trying to register he new engine or grief off the MOT man as he's not seen a 2.0 Fiesta before.

End of the day mate it is your money and ultimately your choice

[allinking]

Dont bother with the 2.0 throttle body though as it is just a rs18800 body made for the mondeo.

[XRoriginal]

very useful information that is much appreciated

Which of the above mods do you think would be the most cost effective?

[wildheart]

Piper re-profiled cams
4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Proper exhaust system
2.0 throttle body
chip
K&N element in drilled air box

This little lot should have you pretty close to where you want to be

Ive yet to see an RS1800 make 150bhp on those mods,they have needed head work too!

[RS_Raz]

Its already a 105 brake engine pushing 130, you cant expect too much without spending a silly amount. I like my RS1800... I'm still in the process of tuning it up, Good luck!

Probably the best mods for it are:

Cams
Decat
2.0 Bottom End

...Supercharger

[Oranoco]

Piper re-profiled cams
4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Proper exhaust system
2.0 throttle body
chip
K&N element in drilled air box

This little lot should have you pretty close to where you want to be

Ive yet to see an RS1800 make 150bhp on those mods,they have needed head work too!

My brothers missus Escort GTi made 145bhp at Engine Advantages on those mods but without the fannimold. The Zetec head flows very well indeed out the box. I spent soem time chatting to Ian Howell about this last year

[wildheart]

I guess a lot of it comes down to which rollers are used

[Oranoco]

Well we're planning on running it up on a set of Dyno Dynamics rollers shortly and these are widely regarded as being about the best and most accurate around.

[FezzR]

Well we're planning on running it up on a set of Dyno Dynamics rollers shortly and these are widely regarded as being about the best and most accurate around.

without turning this into a debate about rollers, just because Dyno Dynamics are accurate rollers, doesnt mean that A) people know how to use them B) theyre calibrated correctly C) theyre calibrated frequently. not douting your quote figure but it is always a lottery which is why most knowledgable tuner/enthusiasts ignore bhp figures or take them as a guideline


Zetecs need manifolds and management for descent gains

[Oranoco]

Well we're planning on running it up on a set of Dyno Dynamics rollers shortly and these are widely regarded as being about the best and most accurate around.

without turning this into a debate about rollers, just because Dyno Dynamics are accurate rollers, doesnt mean that A) people know how to use them B) theyre calibrated correctly C) theyre calibrated frequently. not douting your quote figure but it is always a lottery which is why most knowledgable tuner/enthusiasts ignore bhp figures or take them as a guideline


Zetecs need manifolds and management for descent gains

Well seeing as my mate is the UK distributer and his rollers are the bench mark and test/show items it's safe to say he A) Knows how to use them. and B) They're calibrated correctly.

[FezzR]

Sorry but doesnt effect the fact the Rolling roads are a lottery and comparing vehicle bhp read out from a rolling road isnt going to be accurate unless your comparing similar vehicles on the same rollers on the same day.

Like i said dont want to turn this into a debate about rollers so ill leave it there.

[Oranoco]

Sorry but doesnt effect the fact the Rolling roads are a lottery and comparing vehicle bhp read out from a rolling road isnt going to be accurate unless your comparing similar vehicles on the same rollers on the same day.

Like i said dont want to turn this into a debate about rollers so ill leave it there.

Quite agree mate but that's not what you said was it?

[FezzR]

from your post it reads (to me in anycase) as if Dyno Dynamics rollers are the best and most accurate around.

Im guessing from your last post you ment the specific set Dyno Dynamics rollers that your visiting are the best and most accurate around.

[Oranoco]

Not sure where you are getting that from it seems you are twisting the comments to suit what you want rather than what's actually being said.

Dyno Dynamics are widely regarded to be amongst if not actually the best there is as far as dynometers go and have earnt the nick name of "The Ego Buster" over the past few years. This isn't my personal opinion but that of the industry Worldwide.

You stated that there were variables such as the operator not knowing how to use the equipment and the calibration may be out. I countered this by explaining where the particular unit was coming from. Somehow from that you got that I thought these particular rollers were the best. All I'm saying is I've got the best chance of an accurate figure if the items in question belong to and are being operated by the UK importer.

[FezzR]

Your obviously of the same opinion as Jim that i just like being akward and twisting what people say, as i have explained to him a few times this is not the case at all, people are all different and it would seem the way i read/express things is different to most other people

As i said, TO ME

on a set of Dyno Dynamics rollers

Could mean you were refering to all Dyno Dynamics being accurate (which is what it thought you meant when i first read it), or it could me the specific Dyno Dynamics rolllers your going to are acurate.

Clearly the way i read it was not the way you intended it sorry.

As for Dyno Dynamics i quite agree they are excellent equipment as most stuff from down under appears to be at the moment

[Oranoco]

That was as it was coming across to me. If you say this was not the case then that's cool with me

[martyc]

the later 1800 zetecs as found in the scort gti flow better that the earlier ones and i believe the difference is in the inlet fannimould and head so i've been informed

[lucasdemoley]

I think bike throtle bodies can be picked up fairly cheaply, and then machined to fit, then match this will the exuivilant megasquirts etxc and you should be seeing something close to what you want for not huge cash. This is just going from what i have heard though.

[freak power]

I'll let you all know what my engine will be putting out when it goes on the dyno pack, bhp will be at the hubs for people that don't know what a dyno pack is.