2i to RS
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2i to RS
Right i'm going to convert my car from an XR2i to an Rs turbo.
I'm keeping the 2i rad as its only 2 months old and is bigger than the std RS
this is my plan if anyone knows better or has any advice please shout.
I'm going for a full width intercooler with slimline kenlowe fan. who is the best to supply this?
i wanna go for a T3 turbo, what is my best choice hybrid?std? cost not issue as i have 5000 put away to do this with.
i want to go for a stage 3 tuned head
run at least 15 psi of boost
i know i need the block, inlet, exhaust off an rs turbo as well as loom
i'm gonna chip it what is best for this, also what are the best cams to use in stage 3 head
help and advise needed
I'm keeping the 2i rad as its only 2 months old and is bigger than the std RS
this is my plan if anyone knows better or has any advice please shout.
I'm going for a full width intercooler with slimline kenlowe fan. who is the best to supply this?
i wanna go for a T3 turbo, what is my best choice hybrid?std? cost not issue as i have 5000 put away to do this with.
i want to go for a stage 3 tuned head
run at least 15 psi of boost
i know i need the block, inlet, exhaust off an rs turbo as well as loom
i'm gonna chip it what is best for this, also what are the best cams to use in stage 3 head
help and advise needed
still need to update this sig
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Re: 2i to RS
Bodhi :i have 5000 put away to do this with.
take it sumwhere propper then 2 have it done......
castle performance / power engineering will build it for ya.
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Re: 2i to RS
Bodhi :Right i'm going to convert my car from an XR2i to an Rs turbo.
I'm keeping the 2i rad as its only 2 months old and is bigger than the std RS
this is my plan if anyone knows better or has any advice please shout.
I'm going for a full width intercooler with slimline kenlowe fan. who is the best to supply this?
i wanna go for a T3 turbo, what is my best choice hybrid?std? cost not issue as i have 5000 put away to do this with.
i want to go for a stage 3 tuned head
run at least 15 psi of boost
i know i need the block, inlet, exhaust off an rs turbo as well as loom
i'm gonna chip it what is best for this, also what are the best cams to use in stage 3 head
help and advise needed
£5k zetec turbo it the basic cost is about £3600 from scratch if i rember rite so £5k will make u a goodun
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what go zvh
did consider it dunno much about it though
does someone wanna englighten me
what is the best engine to start with what would i be able to keep off my 2i. as some of it is tuned already.
basically its running a stage 3 specialised engineering head at the mo can i keep that?
any suggestions?
did consider it dunno much about it though
does someone wanna englighten me
what is the best engine to start with what would i be able to keep off my 2i. as some of it is tuned already.
basically its running a stage 3 specialised engineering head at the mo can i keep that?
any suggestions?
still need to update this sig
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still undecided i still like the thought of a 1.9cvh turbo
although zetec turbo and zvh are both considered
i'm getting confused now
whats best?
didn't think i could get so confused converting a 2i to an RST
although zetec turbo and zvh are both considered
i'm getting confused now
whats best?
didn't think i could get so confused converting a 2i to an RST
still need to update this sig
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the man has £5k 2 spend and if done rite the zetec turbo would b faster than any zvh of cvh either fone ab at grove garage or ian howell (fiesta frenzy) tell them how much u have 2 spend and they'll make u summit v v fast
was it ianfrst who done the zetec turbo price list
was it ianfrst who done the zetec turbo price list
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indeed i have 5k to spend
i'm not to fussed about all out top speed but a fair bit of acceleration defo needs to be in the mix and of course a turbo. i have a chance to buy a dead rst with a sweet running engine for silly money though off a mate as in 300 silly money so will prob go that way and tune it with the rest of the money.
dunno why but i still get drawn to the cvh guess i just miss my old rs engine to much as 2i block was my first one after i converted to rs before then blew engine so dumped 2i back in and hadnt got the money at the time to get another engine.
only time will tell as i'm still really undecided, i gotthe stage 3 head for the 2i/rst though and a loom etc still sitting in a box at home.
just not sure what to do
i'm not to fussed about all out top speed but a fair bit of acceleration defo needs to be in the mix and of course a turbo. i have a chance to buy a dead rst with a sweet running engine for silly money though off a mate as in 300 silly money so will prob go that way and tune it with the rest of the money.
dunno why but i still get drawn to the cvh guess i just miss my old rs engine to much as 2i block was my first one after i converted to rs before then blew engine so dumped 2i back in and hadnt got the money at the time to get another engine.
only time will tell as i'm still really undecided, i gotthe stage 3 head for the 2i/rst though and a loom etc still sitting in a box at home.
just not sure what to do
still need to update this sig
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i dont need 300bhp+
my problem is i use the car everyday to get to and from work and for a laugh on weekends and at cruises
i love working on my car myself and i could do an rst transplant in about a week on and off
also i need reasonable fuel economy. pathetic i know but [petrol is way to overpriced as it is and i dont wanna triple my fuel bills
my main aim is over 200bhp and to have as much cash left over as possible. plus i already got a zorst, head and loom from an RST!
i dont need all out power just a decent amount!
anyway as said suggestions are always helpful and appreciated.
my problem is i use the car everyday to get to and from work and for a laugh on weekends and at cruises
i love working on my car myself and i could do an rst transplant in about a week on and off
also i need reasonable fuel economy. pathetic i know but [petrol is way to overpriced as it is and i dont wanna triple my fuel bills
my main aim is over 200bhp and to have as much cash left over as possible. plus i already got a zorst, head and loom from an RST!
i dont need all out power just a decent amount!
anyway as said suggestions are always helpful and appreciated.
still need to update this sig
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Bodhi :would i be able to keep off my 2i. as some of it is tuned already.
basically its running a stage 3 specialised engineering head at the mo can i keep that?
Think you'd need new exhaust valves but AFAIK the heads are identical otherwise.
Knowledgable peeps feel free to correct me!
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would go find a mint frst but i've spent far to much getting this shell sorted. as it now has no rust or anything, has all new suspension and alloys. i'm gonna go the rs route
still need to update this sig
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b20001177 :cvh 200bhp 1.9 250bhp+(loads of cash ask andyhardy)
zvh no point when u can go full zetec 300bhp+?
sum one correct me if im wrong
no necessarerly (sp )
look at gadgets old FRST, now LeePFRST's thats 255 i think running 26psi on a 1.6cvh
and a standard 16v zetec 2L is about 250-260ish.
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bro stick with the rs conversion
im planning and saving to put frst engine in my xr2i in a couple of months! time once outside of the car is how i want it!
do the job and tell me how it goes!!!
why not try s1 s2 escort engine? its nearly the same as the frst 1
heres some info i collected to help you fit a frst engine to the xr2i!·Note that the rad, fan and intercooler are turbo-specific, but the FRST radiator is smaller than the XR2i version despite the engine running hotter. If possible, you should consider running the XR2i radiator with an intercooler mounted in front of the radiator.
·You will need to fit the cooling fan in front of the radiator as the turbo fouls the rear-mounted fan position. The FRST type is thinner than the n/a ones but aftermarket fans produce extremely slimline fans for mounting in cramped engine bays.
·You will also need the turbo-specific loom, ECU to match the loom (OFAB or OFAC), AMAL valve, and all the turbo air pipes.
·Additionally, the MAP sensor is also loom-specific - it is best to get all these parts from the same car.
·The E-DIS and CO adjusters, as well as throttle position sensor, idle speed control valve, and coolant temp sensor are all the same as XR2i 8v versions.
·The inlet manifold is the same as the 2i 8v version, although the gasket mating faces have higher torque settings than the normally aspirated inlets. Note that inlets with the remote ISCV require the fitting plate to attach them to the bulkhead. (afaik airbox mounted ISCVs were not used on the FRST but may be compatible - if in doubt, get the later type).
·Many thanks to who pointed out that the Inlet Air Temp sensor on the FRST is of a higher spec and must be fitted.
·there are no differences between the XR2i and FRST fuel system (fuel lines, or regulator) except the pump and injectors - you need to fit the FRST items.
·You will need to fit most of the FRST coolant hoses, including bottom hose, top hose, if you use the FRST rad.
[Fuel pump wiring note]
Fitting is reasonably straight forward, although you should note the following points:
·The rear engine mount's top (vertical stud/bolt) hole may need to be re-drilled approx 3/4" closer to the bulkhead.
·The front engine mount should be fitted whenever possible, but this involves drilling and welding on the front chassis leg. Running without the mount has been proven to work but places a lot of stress on the remaining engine mount and gearbox mounts. You should check periodically for excessive wear or tearing of the rubber mount.
One problem with these engines are the gearbox ratios they were matched to – typically 1st and 2nd is longer and 4th and 5th are approximately 15% shorter than their XR2i 8v counterparts, with the FRST and REST S2 ratios are slightly longer again due to a change in the final drive ratio.
im planning and saving to put frst engine in my xr2i in a couple of months! time once outside of the car is how i want it!
do the job and tell me how it goes!!!
why not try s1 s2 escort engine? its nearly the same as the frst 1
heres some info i collected to help you fit a frst engine to the xr2i!·Note that the rad, fan and intercooler are turbo-specific, but the FRST radiator is smaller than the XR2i version despite the engine running hotter. If possible, you should consider running the XR2i radiator with an intercooler mounted in front of the radiator.
·You will need to fit the cooling fan in front of the radiator as the turbo fouls the rear-mounted fan position. The FRST type is thinner than the n/a ones but aftermarket fans produce extremely slimline fans for mounting in cramped engine bays.
·You will also need the turbo-specific loom, ECU to match the loom (OFAB or OFAC), AMAL valve, and all the turbo air pipes.
·Additionally, the MAP sensor is also loom-specific - it is best to get all these parts from the same car.
·The E-DIS and CO adjusters, as well as throttle position sensor, idle speed control valve, and coolant temp sensor are all the same as XR2i 8v versions.
·The inlet manifold is the same as the 2i 8v version, although the gasket mating faces have higher torque settings than the normally aspirated inlets. Note that inlets with the remote ISCV require the fitting plate to attach them to the bulkhead. (afaik airbox mounted ISCVs were not used on the FRST but may be compatible - if in doubt, get the later type).
·Many thanks to who pointed out that the Inlet Air Temp sensor on the FRST is of a higher spec and must be fitted.
·there are no differences between the XR2i and FRST fuel system (fuel lines, or regulator) except the pump and injectors - you need to fit the FRST items.
·You will need to fit most of the FRST coolant hoses, including bottom hose, top hose, if you use the FRST rad.
[Fuel pump wiring note]
Fitting is reasonably straight forward, although you should note the following points:
·The rear engine mount's top (vertical stud/bolt) hole may need to be re-drilled approx 3/4" closer to the bulkhead.
·The front engine mount should be fitted whenever possible, but this involves drilling and welding on the front chassis leg. Running without the mount has been proven to work but places a lot of stress on the remaining engine mount and gearbox mounts. You should check periodically for excessive wear or tearing of the rubber mount.
One problem with these engines are the gearbox ratios they were matched to – typically 1st and 2nd is longer and 4th and 5th are approximately 15% shorter than their XR2i 8v counterparts, with the FRST and REST S2 ratios are slightly longer again due to a change in the final drive ratio.
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And a FRST ENGINE And SOME PHAT ICE WITH A TV AND PS2 DNT FORGET THE LEATHER RETRIM AND DEEP DISH RIMS!!!!!!!
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And a FRST ENGINE And SOME PHAT ICE WITH A TV AND PS2 DNT FORGET THE LEATHER RETRIM AND DEEP DISH RIMS!!!!!!!
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