2ltr engine conversion----

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2ltr engine conversion----

Postby wakeboardtom on Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:25 pm

okay just after a little help. i have a 1991 ford fiesta mk3 with a 1.6S engine in it. It is not an Si engine or xr2i. I havent seen many of these engines before. I thought it was a xr2 engine to begin with. Quite confused me to be honest. Anyway im going to put a 2ltr mondeo engine in it very shorty but before i do so i just need to know a few things... :-
- do i need to change teh wiring loom
-what else do i need to do diferently to my engine conversion as apose to converting from an Si engine.
-Also my car has no power steering, will this affect the engine conversion?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:41 pm

Use the search icon at the top of the screen. :rolleyes:
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Postby wakeboardtom on Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:48 pm

thanks :bonkers:
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Postby Smo on Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:04 pm

That guide probably won't help as you don't have injection, therefore you probably only have a really simple car loom which will need changing to a 16v MK3 one (ideally). This has all the wires for injection stuff and the extra wire to the fuse box as used by cars with a cat fitted.
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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:09 pm

he has got a 1.6 cvh ...

That guide is as close as it gets for now :rolleyes: :P
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Postby Smo on Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:12 pm

knuckles :he has got a 1.6 cvh ...

That guide is as close as it gets for now :rolleyes: :P

Sorry :lol: I didn't mean to suggest you had given him useless information or anything :bonkers: , just thought I would point out that it's very unlikely he has a full injection loom in there. With his car, it requires just as much work as my 1.1 carb job did :( (Although that was far from difficult :))

:P (I have no reason to post that smiley, but I felt like it :lol: :bonkers: )
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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:01 pm

Fooking smarty pants :lol:
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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:12 pm

LMFAS :lol:

Copyrighted too :oooh:
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Postby wakeboardtom on Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:12 pm

:lol: haha

Well i thought it would be harder to do than iff it was a normal si engine.

What would you lot do if u were me then, how would you get it done?
I cant do it myself as i have not got the tools or even the knowledge. I wouldnt know were to start! So do i pay a garage to do it or what??

I just want a 2 ltr fez :-? lol
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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:27 pm

No garage will do such a conversion - too long winded process.

Your best bet is to buy one already done :P
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Postby wakeboardtom on Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:35 pm

:( Is there a Idiots guide to converting a 1.6s to 2 ltr?

i wish :( only thing is i like everything else about my car. only thing left for me to do to get it how i want is this damn engine conversion

Maybe someone on here would want some extra cash.... something to do in the weeknights lol i know its a longshot but.... iff i had the know how and kneeded the cash i may consider it.... :-?
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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:16 pm

Doing a engine change is stressful enough. Let alone doing someone elses conversion.

Your looking at at least £1000 for the 2.0 ltr engine with everything you need. That would be a basic conversion as well.

Its all manual labour involved. I recomend you pull your finger out and start to learn about engines like i did. All i did was buy 2 haynes manuals, got some basic tools and started doing little bits myself. Once you learn how to use a spanner your half way there mate .... :wink:

Have a good read through that guide and think about your next move.
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Postby wakeboardtom on Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:24 pm

Looks like the best way really. I would really like to learn about it all anyways....

Haynes manual it is :)

Thanks for the advice knuckles
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Postby knuckles on Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:31 pm

No problem :D

I started on my 1.1 doing the spark plugs , ignition leads, battery etc. Then on my xr2i i got a bit more adventurous , changed the oil/filter, changed the shocks and springs, Renewed the brake pads & brake discs. Then went onto replacing the whole engine.

All from reading one book :Q
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Postby wakeboardtom on Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:48 pm

i must say them haynes manuals are very good arnet they. My car is on page 6 of the Max haynes manual too :D :lol:
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Postby SamT on Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:23 pm

why not try and pick up a cheap mot failure/pile of crap mk3 1.6 si.
then use the loom from that, switch it over into yours, and a few changes on the pin arrangements and you could run a 2.0 ecu aswell
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Postby Dazza on Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:24 pm

I have a guide on my site, its ment for a 1.6 SI but the most of it you can use, perhaps seek that other guide on here for the wiring changes etc

http://www.teamford.co.uk/webpage/fiest ... ersion.htm

If you cant do it yourself then it looks like you'll have to do without unless you dont mind spending major £££
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Postby fezzapower on Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:27 pm

knuckles :No garage will do such a conversion - too long winded process. :P


Thats not entirely true, theres a garage near me called Fiesta centre, they specialise in mk1,2,3 fiestas mainly and i think they would be able to do a 2.0lt fiesta conversion.

They are putting my 1.6 XR2i engine in my mint 1.1 fiesta at a cost of only £400.

They are based near Norwich.

if you live close enough it might be worth ringing and asking them

http://www.fiesta-centre.co.uk
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Postby Oranoco on Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:21 pm

Does that include the fuel tank, fuel pump, fuel lines, wiring loom, ECU etc? :o
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Postby fezzapower on Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:18 pm

sorry i worded that wrong, £400 is what they will charge to do an entire conversion, including engine, gear box and clutch etc.
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Postby Choosey on Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:30 pm

knuckles :All i did was buy 2 haynes manuals, got some basic tools and started doing little bits myself. Once you learn how to use a spanner your half way there mate .... :wink:


:lol:

I went and sold my Haynes manual for my mk3 and I'm gonna be buying one in the New Year. nutsack! :rolleyes: :x
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Postby bassboy on Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:15 pm

have you considered running a NA 2L Zetec on Carbs? ;) would be AWESOME!

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