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Postby J-Dee on Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:27 pm

Ok, soon im gunna be getting in my boot sorted and intend to make it perfect the first time rather then constantly changing..

Whats the best sort of setup?

ie Do i want 2 of one size, or 3 of a smaller size, or one big phat monster that tears heads off small goats?

if u can let me no what setups u have or have had, what works well, what doesnt.. etc etc

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Postby properphatboy on Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:15 pm

IIRC, smaller subs are more responsive, and give a crisper edge to the bass, whereas larger ones give a bigger boom. The most common sizes are 8", 10", 12" and 15" I think.

Really for a fiesta, you don't need to mpends on how lairy you want your install to be. I had a 12" sub before, and it was fine for giving good quality bass to compliment the speakers' sound, but now I'm going for 2 of these as I'm having all my speakers amped too.

TBH it'll always be up to you. You can try subs in Halfords, etc and see what sounds good to you, or ask others for a listen of their installs.
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Postby J-Dee on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:29 am

thats the thing, dont know anyone else with a fiesta whos into installs.. either they have a fiesta becuz its their first car n their nan gave it to em... or theyre one of my mates who luv the bass and are driving something else.

Ill rephrase the question a little bit... Whats the biggest i can fit in the boot? :D

2 x 12"s? tis my first car so havent actually experienced it myself jus helped wire in others, not actually choose the right ones.
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Postby mikeysabes on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:26 pm

got 2 12`s in my Si at the moment,

be 15s soon though :P
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:51 pm

Ive got two alpine 15" subs in my fiesta, sounds awsome. It all depends if you want punchy bass are deep low bass but will be less punchy, and how much you have to spend. If you have lots of money, go for a single powerful sub like the w7 or something. If not, look in the back of the car mags. You can pick up two 12" alpine subs in a double box, 500rms each for about £150 in the back of car mags, just look and youll get a great deal. These would do more than well, unless you have a large budget.

If you want something huge you could fit an 18" sub, or you could fit 4 of the subs mentioned above. WOuld be a tight squeez but should fit..... maybe!
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Postby J-Dee on Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:12 pm

got any pics of how yours looks m8?
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:33 pm

Mine is a mess tbh. I currently just ahve the subs in the boxes, but i did start to make a fiberglass build that i never finished.

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Postby diablosvy on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:23 pm

lucasdemoley :If you want something huge you could fit an 18" sub, or you could fit 4 of the subs mentioned above. WOuld be a tight squeez but should fit..... maybe!


You couldnt do it justice without removing the back seats and giving it a seriously huge box!

From what I have read, most of the time 3*10'' will have the same cone area and thus the same amount of bass produced as 2*12''

Also you could infact spend more on a single decent 12 or 15 '' in a well designed ported box that will out perform 2 or 3 low range subs quite easily. And you can still listen to the fast beats of dance and in some cases DnB with bigger subs in the right box, its a myth that larger subs cant keep up with faster beats (with exceptions and relatively speaking of course :wink: )

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Postby J-Dee on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:44 pm

sweet cheers mate.

i feel someones been spying on me :o knowing that im needin the bass for dnb haha.

thx for the help tho
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:02 pm

diablosvy :
lucasdemoley :If you want something huge you could fit an 18" sub, or you could fit 4 of the subs mentioned above. WOuld be a tight squeez but should fit..... maybe!

its a myth that larger subs cant keep up with faster beats (with exceptions and relatively speaking of course :wink: )

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Its not a myth. There are some good 15" subs out there that do hit hard, but will never hit as hard as a 10" of the same power. Same goes for deep bass, a 10" will in most cases not produce the same deep levels of bass that an equevelent 15" sub could reach.
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Postby diablosvy on Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:19 pm

lucasdemoley :
diablosvy :its a myth that larger subs cant keep up with faster beats (with exceptions and relatively speaking of course :wink: )


Its not a myth. There are some good 15" subs out there that do hit hard, but will never hit as hard as a 10" of the same power. Same goes for deep bass, a 10" will in most cases not produce the same deep levels of bass that an equevelent 15" sub could reach.


If you actually read what I wrote you will see that I mention nothing about how deep the bass is or how hard a sub hits, rather I noted the speed at which the sub moves ;)

And I did put a disclaimer at the end for any annomalies.

Although TBH if you want bass for DnB I would personally just go for some serious kick-bass, well thats what I was advised to do when I bought my system becuase I listen to alot of dance but my tastes are quite elclectic so I went for dirty street bass instead :lol: :Q

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Postby mikeysabes on Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:07 pm

that bit about the 15s not keeping up with the beat,

ive got mixed views on this,

i know some ppl that have been in the industry a long time, and ive actually heard that them not keeping up is not always the case, they can actually produce the beat before your speakers

bit weired really,
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Postby lucasdemoley on Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:10 pm

A larger cone will be slowed down more due to air force than a smaller coned sub with the same power, fact.

I wasnt really saying you were wrong, more like its the other way round, with the exception being that some subs can keep up with smaller subs, than some subs not keeping up.

I personaly think my 15" subs hit hard and fast, but a 10" sub will do this and be more controlled. Just different views i guess.
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Postby Jonezy on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:25 pm

12" is the best of both worlds if your like me and listen to a mixture of music
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Postby bassboy on Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:02 pm

J-Dee...just come down and see me mate ;) will even supply everything at unbeatable prices ;) :D

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Postby :: blade :: on Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:35 pm

you got this sorted yet? and bassboy do you design bootbuilds and make them??

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Postby J-Dee on Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:51 pm

Not yet, still needa sort my shizt out, everything's been put on hold tbh.. Im not allowed to drive for about anuva few days. Got GBH'd last saturday n was in hospital til thursday so theres a few things on me plate atm :rolleyes:

Keep u informed
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Postby emoDUDE on Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:25 am

Manufacturers of subwoofers put the most effort into perfecting the sound of their 12 inch range, simply because they sell the best, making these the ones to go for.

Personally, in all of my installs, not only for the afformentioned reason of elite design over other sub sizes, but for musical fidelity, I have always gone for a pair in my cars.

Up until a few months ago, before it was written off, I ran two 12inch W3 JL audio's my Mk3, each being driven by a Directed 500W Monoblock amplifier.

As an audiophile, I would strongly recommend that you spend that little bit more the first time around, rather than buying twice due to ill products.

If you are after a good, all round pair of subs, I would definately go for another pair of 12" W3JL's or a pair of Focals.
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Postby mattfiesta1987 on Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:44 pm

right i know this will sound strange but i have 3 15" subs in one terror box. it fits in the back of a mark 3 fiesta, very tight i might add, but the bass that comes from them is immense, and im not blowing my own trumpet.

i have them on 2 sony 1200w amps bridged. one amp does 2 subs and the other amp does the single sub.

i wasnt sure how they would sound, but ater sitting there for a few hours setting up all my amps, i feel that i have just got it right.

ive also had 2 sony 10" subs being driven on a sony 1200w amp. they dont produce low down bass but are punchy and do perform well.

it all depends what you are after if you want low bass get the 15's if you want puncy get the tens and if you want the best of both get the 12's.

when you start getting bigger speakers your going to need another battery in there.

i will post some pics up, of my terror box
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Postby chumkila on Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:48 pm

mattfiesta1987 :right i know this will sound strange but i have 3 15" subs in one terror box. it fits in the back of a mark 3 fiesta, very tight i might add, but the bass that comes from them is immense, and im not blowing my own trumpet.

i have them on 2 sony 1200w amps bridged. one amp does 2 subs and the other amp does the single sub.

i wasnt sure how they would sound, but ater sitting there for a few hours setting up all my amps, i feel that i have just got it right.

ive also had 2 sony 10" subs being driven on a sony 1200w amp. they dont produce low down bass but are punchy and do perform well.

it all depends what you are after if you want low bass get the 15's if you want puncy get the tens and if you want the best of both get the 12's.

when you start getting bigger speakers your going to need another battery in there.

i will post some pics up, of my terror box


hurry up with the pics, this I want to see. 8)
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Postby diablosvy on Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:10 pm

Sub size has nothing to do with batterys ;)

As a rough guide if your headlights start dimming or your using over 1000w RMS then its time for a new battery if the other one is old or a second battery.
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Postby properphatboy on Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:17 pm

diablosvy :Sub size has nothing to do with batterys ;)

As a rough guide if your headlights start dimming or your using over 1000w RMS then its time for a new battery if the other one is old or a second battery.


I'd say it was time for a new alternator. Battery is only really used when the engine isn't running.
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Postby emoDUDE on Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:08 pm

properphatboy :
diablosvy :Sub size has nothing to do with batterys ;)

As a rough guide if your headlights start dimming or your using over 1000w RMS then its time for a new battery if the other one is old or a second battery.


I'd say it was time for a new alternator. Battery is only really used when the engine isn't running.


2nded.

Mine had a 200Amp alternator with uprated cabling throughout.
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Postby diablosvy on Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:21 pm

TBH its totally reasonable to expect that a healthy fiesta alternator wont be able to cope with 1000+watts particuarly well especially if other electrical devices are running simultaniously. Which is why I said go for a 2nd batt.
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Postby idle hands productions on Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:56 am

HERE`S MINE I`VE GOT 2 x 12" ALPINE TYPE R DVC SUBS 1500 WATTS EACH AND AN INPHASE IPA2400 2400 WATTS COMPOTISION AMP STILL NEW AND RUNNING IN ONLY AT HALF POWER ON AMP AND I`VE MANAGED TO WAKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON MY ROAD UP .HERE`S A PICTURE :devil: :devil: :devil: Image
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Postby GilesFiesta on Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:27 pm

woah that is one mental fiesta :aaah:
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Postby :: blade :: on Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:19 am

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heres mine, just need to change it a bit and get another box made up so i can fit my rear strut brace,

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Postby properphatboy on Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:40 pm

:o Now that I like!

Are those 15's Blade?
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Postby :: blade :: on Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:26 pm

nope just 12s :D
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Postby properphatboy on Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:59 pm

Cool. They do look big in there though.

Mind you, I keep forgetting how big mine look too.
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Postby butler_29 on Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:43 am

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heres mine but now ive got one vibe with one meaty mtx amp @ 1500w 2ohm powering it.
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