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[fiestyRS]

just some advise please.
going to put an good engine in a mk3 fez.
would like aprox prices of the engines and somewere in northwest to carry it out.
(manchester area ideal)
its a 1.3 at the moment.

options-
rs turbo
2.0L zetec
2.0L zetec turbo (this is what i fancy but been told its silly money)
however,
lad i know says a chipped rs turbo lump would be quicker then a 2.0 zetec lump,anyone know any ruff figures for the above engines,and how much of a ball ache each is to do.
thanks in advance.

[cookie456_the2nd]

A chipped rs turbo may be quicker than a 2.0, but, a big but is,

the 2.0 has a whole load more of potential.

[xrsi]

A chipped rs turbo may be quicker than a 2.0, but, a big but is,

the 2.0 has a whole load more of potential.

how has it? to get the same sort of power on a 2ltr n/a zetec engine to a mildly tuned cvh turbo lump you are talking serious money!

a cam, air filter, exhaust mild boost increase and a 165 chip will give ample power from a cvh turbo engine, if you wanted more then a set of 701 beige injectors and a 195 chip and a little more boost would see best part of 200 bhp witha decent intercooler.

all depends on what you want the car for and also how much you are willing to spend to get the car to where you want it as the 2ltr conversion will prob be also cheaper for you as the engines can be picked up relativly cheaply due to being pleantly of them around but if you do go fir 2ltr then bits off a fiesta/escort zetec engine need to be used to fit it to a fiesta.

the problem being is that you dont say what year the car is at the mo and if the car is a carb or injection as this changes the amount of work needing to be done to convert the engine.

as a rough guide you would need to change the following regardless of the engine choice (if it was for a turbo then there would be more needed and same if the car wasnt already injection)

engine
gearbox
shocks and springs (if not already uprated/lowered)
brakes (a very big must)
ecu and associated bits
engine bay wiring
mounts
rad and pipe work
air filter (best to get an induction kit)
exhaust

[Jonezy]

what er you do weigh up the insurance differences first.

the 2ltr will be cheaper to insure and run than the RS but as pointed out will be more expensive to tune

depending on what engine/ year your car is already determines which is easier also

[eddyrst]

depends if your going to declare the insurance etc...

the best option is properbly the turbo lump, cheap to buy, fit and tune

[edders]

A chipped rs turbo may be quicker than a 2.0, but, a big but is,

the 2.0 has a whole load more of potential.

how has it? to get the same sort of power on a 2ltr n/a zetec engine to a mildly tuned cvh turbo lump you are talking serious money!

if you had read the whole list of options it also said he may consider zt. this will kick the arse of nearly all cvh turbos. and also they are becoming cheaper to do as more and more people are offering off the shelf components for them. that and if you are technically minded then you can do most of the labour yourself.

depends if your going to declare the insurance etc...

not smart. really not smart. (you may have been joking but still not smart)

[eddyrst]

im not endorsing it, its up to him at the end of the day

[xrsi]

A chipped rs turbo may be quicker than a 2.0, but, a big but is,

the 2.0 has a whole load more of potential.

how has it? to get the same sort of power on a 2ltr n/a zetec engine to a mildly tuned cvh turbo lump you are talking serious money!

if you had read the whole list of options it also said he may consider zt. this will kick the arse of nearly all cvh turbos. and also they are becoming cheaper to do as more and more people are offering off the shelf components for them. that and if you are technically minded then you can do most of the labour yourself.

depends if your going to declare the insurance etc...

not smart. really not smart. (you may have been joking but still not smart)

igf you read then you will see that no way can just a chipped 1600 turbo engine be quicker than a zt, even a low boost zt will be a match if not quicker. hence why i put a n/a zetec lump, if he is seriously interested in having a zt lump straight off then that is defo the way to go, but for cost effectiveness a 2ltr all the way or for decent power and being turboed then a 1600 cvh lump is best option!

[fiestyRS]

ok,im with adrian flux insurence so if you have been with them you know EVERYTHING has to be declared as they are very strict,which is why im allready paying £1,700 a year and im 29
(with 6 points to be fair)
its a K reg and its carb,its lowared (just springs atm) now on 30mm as the 70mm ones made the wheels rub (17`s).
exhaust=stright through.
to be brutally honest im sick to death of the local paxos trying to race me everywere i go because of the way the car looks and sounds.this is the biggest reason for even considering the ZT option,
not that i speed anyway
im now thinking it might be abit excessive money wise.
prices???

"a cam, air filter, exhaust mild boost increase and a 165 chip will give ample power from a cvh turbo engine, if you wanted more then a set of 701 beige injectors and a 195 chip and a little more boost would see best part of 200 bhp witha decent intercooler."
this sounds nice,plenty of power per pound i suspect there.approx price inc fitting? and would it be cheaper to buy a donar rs turbo with rubbish bodywork or rear crash damaged for a cheap price and take the parts?
im hoping that the engine going in will be the last part of the project as ive allready spent alot of £ that i wont get back so maybe the rst lump would be cheapish to do,good power,and cheapish to insure and keep the final cost of the project down so i can draw a line under it and call it finished.
lastly,approx time to do each convertion??
btw,just to add,im a big fan of accelaration over top speed.
thanks for your great help lads.

[eddyrst]

ok,im with adrian flux insurence so if you have been with them you know EVERYTHING has to be declared as they are very strict,which is why im allready paying £1,700 a year and im 29
(with 6 points to be fair)
its a K reg and its carb,its lowared (just springs atm) now on 30mm as the 70mm ones made the wheels rub (17`s).
exhaust=stright through.
to be brutally honest im sick to death of the local paxos trying to race me everywere i go because of the way the car looks and sounds.this is the biggest reason for even considering the ZT option,
not that i speed anyway
im now thinking it might be abit excessive money wise.
prices???

"a cam, air filter, exhaust mild boost increase and a 165 chip will give ample power from a cvh turbo engine, if you wanted more then a set of 701 beige injectors and a 195 chip and a little more boost would see best part of 200 bhp witha decent intercooler."
this sounds nice,plenty of power per pound i suspect there.approx price inc fitting? and would it be cheaper to buy a donar rs turbo with rubbish bodywork or rear crash damaged for a cheap price and take the parts?
im hoping that the engine going in will be the last part of the project as ive allready spent alot of £ that i wont get back so maybe the rst lump would be cheapish to do,good power,and cheapish to insure and keep the final cost of the project down so i can draw a line under it and call it finished.
lastly,approx time to do each convertion??
btw,just to add,im a big fan of accelaration over top speed.
thanks for your great help lads.

christ im paying £1700 for an RST at 17 years old

think your telling your insurance to much

[fiestyRS]

lol i know mate,but ive only been driving fully legal for 1 year with 6 points and my cars not very standard looking to be fair...

[eddyrst]

oh myyy with looks like that it needs to do a million miles an hour llama

no wonder people try and race you, get a turbo lump slapped in there and youl be having the last laugh

[xrsi]

im hoping that the engine going in will be the last part of the project as ive allready spent alot of £ that i wont get back so maybe the rst lump would be cheapish to do,good power,and cheapish to insure and keep the final cost of the project down so i can draw a line under it and call it finished.
lastly,approx time to do each convertion??
btw,just to add,im a big fan of accelaration over top speed.
thanks for your great help lads.

well the ideal would be to get a rotten RS as long as the engine and everything else was ok as if parts and extra work needs doing to sort out duff donor bits then thats where the conversion starts to get into serious money!

for a full RS conversion you are prob looking at a full week of work and costs would really depend on what you needed doing and if you were having the engine serviced at the time as it would make more sense with it out the car! but with the full car then atleast you have everything and not trying to source the full list of bits from differenet places and you can see that the car works fine.

for a 2ltr zetec conversion again expect to be upto a week depending on what you wanted doing.

the actual cost of conversion would prob be a little cheaper if you were doing a 2ltr conversion and the cost of parts will be alot cheaper but like i said before the tuning potential is not as great as with a 1600cvh turbo lump.

[lucasdemoley]

I personaly would go for the rs turbo lump if it doesnt kill your insurance. I only fitted a 2.0 as i already had a zetec engine, so it made sence.

Tunning the rst engine is a fairly simple matter, the only reason not to go for it really is if the insurance look at is as the group 15 it is, where as the 2.0 could be looked at as a group 9, making things abit cheaper.

[fiestyRS]

with the full car then atleast you have everything and not trying to source the full list of bits from differenet places and you can see that the car works fine..

yes mate,this is the reason behind my full donar car idea,brakes for e.g

the actual cost of conversion would prob be a little cheaper if you were doing a 2ltr conversion and the cost of parts will be alot cheaper but like i said before the tuning potential is not as great as with a 1600cvh turbo lump.

i think tuning potential over rules cost here mate tbh hehe.

no wonder people try and race you, get a turbo lump slapped in there and youl be having the last laugh

exactly mate

I personaly would go for the rs turbo lump if it doesnt kill your insurance. I only fitted a 2.0 as i already had a zetec engine, so it made sence.
Tunning the rst engine is a fairly simple matter, the only reason not to go for it really is if the insurance look at is as the group 15 it is, where as the 2.0 could be looked at as a group 9, making things abit cheaper.

i asked for rough idea about if i put a 2.0 zetec in when i took policy out and they said around the 2k mark for insurence mate.
that sound about right?

[edders]

with six points i would have said so

[eddyrst]

with six points i would have said so

with six points id have to forget to notify my insurance