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Alternatives to RS2000 Front Brake Setup

Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:34 pm

Afternoon people :)

What alternatives are there to the RS2000 front brakes? The reason I'm looking at the RS2000 setup is because they can't be any bigger than 260mm due to 14" wheels.

I believe the MK5 Zetec S with 260mm brakes (I think there was a 240mm setup fitted to these too) fit, but require the hub carrier drilling out to 12mm - can anyone confirm this?

What about Mondeo 1.8/2.0 setup with 260mm discs - is this a setup that will go on? And if so, does the hub carrier need drilling out like some other setups do?

Also I've noticed the last MK Ford Scorpios (4 stud) have 260mm brakes. Again, anyone know anything about these?

Any other suggestions?

Thankingyoumuchly :D
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Postby Raymondo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:53 pm

Some Seirra's have 260mm discs. Dont know what fitting them would involve though. Also Focus'
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Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:57 pm

Hmm... Was wondering about the Sierra, but I imagined they wouldn't fit as only the 4x4 Cosworth setup fits on the Fiesta, and the RWD setup doesn't... Not sure how much logic there is behind that thinking though :lol:

Didn't think about the Focus. Anyone know how they are for fitting?

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Postby Raymondo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:07 pm

Well the XR4x4 had 260mm discs so i dont know if they would be the same fitting as the cossie setup? And the Focus would probobly be the same as the ST170 setup which bolts straight on but needs the hubs drilling out.
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Postby goaty on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:20 pm

130ps xr3i run 260mm brakes. I looked at them and there are loads on ebay cheap.
i just dont really see the need to go bigger, mine work fine as they are.
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Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:36 pm

goaty :130ps xr3i run 260mm brakes. I looked at them and there are loads on ebay cheap.
i just dont really see the need to go bigger, mine work fine as they are.

I've been looking out for 130 spec ones, but haven't had much luck... Nearly always seem to be 105PS brakes.

The fact is, I'm running solid 240s at the moment, so I might as well go for the biggest I can fit if I'm going through the whole hassle of upgrading.

Raymondo - I did think about the XR4x4 after I replied, so it's definitely something to look at... Although I'd imagine they need spacing like the 4x4 setup does if they do go on. Focus setup could well be a good contender though :D
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Postby Jonezy on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:29 pm

xr3i 130 disks with erst callipers are what i use and they work more than fine and they go straight on

not sure if there the same as an rs2000 tho,

why would you want anythin different tho,

just wonderin why you they have to be different
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Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:43 pm

Jonezy :why would you want anythin different tho,

just wonderin why you they have to be different

They don't have to be :)

The problem is, RS2000 calipers seem to come up so rarely these days, or go for silly money... Usually because they include some manky old discs that the seller believes make them worth more, when all I'm going to do is replace them with some brand spanking new ones :)

The other problem I have, which is really starting to do my head in big time, is when I PM someone asking about an item they have for sale (in this case, RS2000 front calipers), and I get bugger-all response... So I'm at the point of having enough now, and will see if I can sort myself out with an alternative setup.

Never expected ERST calipers to work with RS2000 discs though... They're combined with ~240mm discs on the Escort, so I assume any MK4 (MK3 also?) Escort or MK2 (MK1 also?) Orion with vented discs will have the same calipers. If you're running these with 260mm discs, I'm assuming the hub carriers on the Fiesta have the holes positioned differently from the MK4 Escort for them to bolt straight up and work with 260mm discs?
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Postby filtra on Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:44 pm

Smo - Let me know you findings, i'll try and help out too.

I want to upgrade the fronts on my FRST so the biggest i can go is 260mm.

I've been also looking at the Hi-Spec kits (being the cheapest) but that will come to £450 odd.
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Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:18 pm

Yeah definitely :)

I was quite set on getting RS2000 or 130 XR3i items for simplicity, but they just seem a mission to get hold of...

If the Escort setup as Jonezy has described above is as simple as it sounds, then I'll be looking at that I think.

Jonezy - Can you get some pics up of this setup? And how good is the contact of the pad to braking surface of the disc? i.e., is it perfect?
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RS2000 Brakes

Postby Xr2iJamzie on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:26 pm

Have you tried ebay for the RS2000 setup?? I got front callipers, rear hubs, rear callipers(one brand new), brand new rear pads and handbrake cable for 50 quid :)

I'll probably give them an overhaul, maybe get them shot blasted too, but was a great bargain altogether!!
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Re: RS2000 Brakes

Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:32 pm

Xr2iJamzie :Have you tried ebay for the RS2000 setup?? I got front callipers, rear hubs, rear callipers(one brand new), brand new rear pads and handbrake cable for 50 quid :)

I'll probably give them an overhaul, maybe get them shot blasted too, but was a great bargain altogether!!

That's a bloody bargain!

And yep, it's been in my favourite searches under a number of different keyword combinations for months :lol:
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Postby Xr2iJamzie on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:36 pm

Lucky u didn't see them :Q

Could have ended in a bidding war!
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Re: ebay

Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:38 pm

Xr2iJamzie :Lucky u didn't see them :Q

Could have ended in a bidding war!

Link me, I want to see now :cry: :lol:
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Postby Captain Tightpants on Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:01 pm

ERST run 260mm. I have a few sets of calipers mate. I'm unsure they will work with the RS2000 front disks though tbh. ERST disks run a much larger offset than the RS2000 disks!

I have a few sets of ERST calipers though mate. PM me if you want a set, your welcome to them if you organise a courier. May even be able to sort you out with a good price on some Brembo front RS2000 Disks.

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Postby HawkeVIPER on Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:30 pm

PM'd ya with a link I just found, which may be helpful. :)
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Postby Smo on Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:16 pm

Scort :ERST run 260mm. I have a few sets of calipers mate. I'm unsure they will work with the RS2000 front disks though tbh. ERST disks run a much larger offset than the RS2000 disks!

I have a few sets of ERST calipers though mate. PM me if you want a set, your welcome to them if you organise a courier. May even be able to sort you out with a good price on some Brembo front RS2000 Disks.

Steve

I actually thought ERSTs did run 260!! But I decided I'd have a quick look in the Haynes my dad had for his old Escort, and it seemed to suggest they were all 240mmish... Stupid thing :lol:

Is it possible that the holes on the Fiesta hub carrier could be positioned differently, and therefore allowing the calipers work with the RS2000 discs? I assume Jonezy has this setup working, so I'm guessing it must be something like that :-?

Could well be interested in a pair of those calipers though, depending on what information I can find out, so cheers for the offer Steve :D

And cheers for the link Mr. Tony. I shall await to see if this one replies :lol:
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Postby HawkeVIPER on Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:04 am

Smo :And cheers for the link Mr. Tony. I shall await to see if this one replies :lol:


You're quite welcome, Mr Simon, sir. I'll keep my fingers crossed. :lol:
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Postby wildheart on Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:14 am

Smo :
Scort :ERST run 260mm. I have a few sets of calipers mate. I'm unsure they will work with the RS2000 front disks though tbh. ERST disks run a much larger offset than the RS2000 disks!

I have a few sets of ERST calipers though mate. PM me if you want a set, your welcome to them if you organise a courier. May even be able to sort you out with a good price on some Brembo front RS2000 Disks.

Steve

I actually thought ERSTs did run 260!! But I decided I'd have a quick look in the Haynes my dad had for his old Escort, and it seemed to suggest they were all 240mmish... Stupid thing :lol:


S1 run 240mm discs and smaller calipers than the S2 with 260mm discs and bigger calipers :wink:
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Postby Smo on Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:32 am

wildheart :
Smo :
Scort :ERST run 260mm. I have a few sets of calipers mate. I'm unsure they will work with the RS2000 front disks though tbh. ERST disks run a much larger offset than the RS2000 disks!

I have a few sets of ERST calipers though mate. PM me if you want a set, your welcome to them if you organise a courier. May even be able to sort you out with a good price on some Brembo front RS2000 Disks.

Steve

I actually thought ERSTs did run 260!! But I decided I'd have a quick look in the Haynes my dad had for his old Escort, and it seemed to suggest they were all 240mmish... Stupid thing :lol:


S1 run 240mm discs and smaller calipers than the S2 with 260mm discs and bigger calipers :wink:

Ah, did wonder that also! Cheers :D

My Escort knowledge is poor these days :lol:
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Postby Smo on Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:56 pm

Mr. Tony, I love you :D

Sorted! :lol:
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Postby HawkeVIPER on Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:14 pm

I feel all warm and fuzzy inside :o :lol:

No problem Mr. Simon! :D
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Postby Smo on Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:17 pm

Yay! :D

I'll calm down in a minute...

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Postby Jonezy on Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:40 pm

hey heres yer pics

ok they use erst callipers - which bolt straight up no messin and fit perfectly over the holey bit.


the diskd are 1994 xr3i 130/115 disks, they are 260mm and fit straight on with these callipers no messin with no spacers required,

the offsets etc is mathematically perfect.(i think :rolleyes: )



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hope these help, anymore q's give us a shout, explained everyrthin as best i can and hope i answered all the q's in the posts above
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Postby Jonezy on Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:40 pm

hey heres yer pics

ok they use erst callipers - which bolt straight up no messin and fit perfectly over the holey bit.


the diskd are 1994 xr3i 130/115 disks, they are 260mm and fit straight on with these callipers no messin with no spacers required,

the offsets etc is mathematically perfect.(i think :rolleyes: )



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Postby Jonezy on Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:42 pm

woops sowi :lol:
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Postby Jonezy on Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:50 pm

o that question, far as i can see the pad covers all of the disk visible
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Postby Smo on Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:17 pm

Oooh... Well if these other calipers fall through, I may well take Steve up on his offer, and try going this route :)

Cheers for the pics :D
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Postby Jonezy on Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:40 am

so im no longer the only person in the world with this conversion, wahhoo
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Postby Smo on Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:55 am

:lol: Well I've hopefully got some RS2000 calipers on the way, but if not, I'll then be looking into this option :D

I just want the brakes sorted before going for more power (so I can scare bigger things :lol: ) :)
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Postby Jonezy on Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:00 am

you may want to change the master cylinder and servo to an escort mk5 one too to compensate for the extra movement of fluid neended
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Postby Smo on Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:11 am

Yeah, it's already on my list to do :D

I will, however, see how it goes with just calipers and a complete change of fluid, but the servo does need changing anyway.
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Postby escortbreakers.co.uk on Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:48 am

i recon the mondeo caliper and pads would work better as they have different compound.
they seem to work better than rs2000 xr3i setup even on the bigger mondeo's
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Postby Smo on Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:55 pm

escortbreakers.co.uk :i recon the mondeo caliper and pads would work better as they have different compound.
they seem to work better than rs2000 xr3i setup even on the bigger mondeo's

Well this guy hasn't got back to me about the RS2000 ones that he's already given me a price on which I said yes to, so looks like I might be trying something else anyway! :lol:

What do you use on your Escort?
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Postby Jonezy on Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:24 pm

get anywhere over the weekend and new year with these Smo,

doin the erst brakes or what now
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