and now for braking!
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and now for braking!
at present:-
1.1 master cylidner, standard lines etc
FRST calipars on 285mm discs using spacers
FRST drums on rear
Problem, braking lacks bite and the pedal feel spongy even after fresh fluid etc.
Solution = just ordered a RS1800i Master cylinder from ford, comes with new rear bias valves and reservoir and seals etc, gonna get the servo sprayed when I fit this, along with this I am going to fit some ss lines i have to replace the rubber ones, this will all be topped off with some fresh super dot4 or dot5.1, any suggestions or pros and cons on fluids?
problem 2, big vibration throu the steer wheel at speed, I think this is down to poor quaility discs since they did it since fitted, will be fitting today some plain 240mm discs to see if my hubs are the problem or the discs.
If my hubs are ok then the next stage of the plans proceed which will probly be some cossie calipars and rs2k rear discs.
gonna stick to plain discs, drilled and grooved are way to OTT for a road car, i know they look better but this is the thing that stops you, personally Id rather have sharp brakes and a great pedal feel than 'brake style'
il report my findings
1.1 master cylidner, standard lines etc
FRST calipars on 285mm discs using spacers
FRST drums on rear
Problem, braking lacks bite and the pedal feel spongy even after fresh fluid etc.
Solution = just ordered a RS1800i Master cylinder from ford, comes with new rear bias valves and reservoir and seals etc, gonna get the servo sprayed when I fit this, along with this I am going to fit some ss lines i have to replace the rubber ones, this will all be topped off with some fresh super dot4 or dot5.1, any suggestions or pros and cons on fluids?
problem 2, big vibration throu the steer wheel at speed, I think this is down to poor quaility discs since they did it since fitted, will be fitting today some plain 240mm discs to see if my hubs are the problem or the discs.
If my hubs are ok then the next stage of the plans proceed which will probly be some cossie calipars and rs2k rear discs.
gonna stick to plain discs, drilled and grooved are way to OTT for a road car, i know they look better but this is the thing that stops you, personally Id rather have sharp brakes and a great pedal feel than 'brake style'
il report my findings
RIP Robert Martin - Rob - Elm_us
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My experience.......
I had EBC grooved disks and Greenstuff pads..... I ditched the disks as they filled with brake dust making them useless! I then started using standard, vented disks with Greeenstuff pads, which i have now found the Greenstuff kevlar pads work at a high temp which the std disks cant cope and warp..............and they warp VERY easily!!
So, i am now going to use Mintex or Ferrodo pads with std disks........ will let u know how it goes.
I had EBC grooved disks and Greenstuff pads..... I ditched the disks as they filled with brake dust making them useless! I then started using standard, vented disks with Greeenstuff pads, which i have now found the Greenstuff kevlar pads work at a high temp which the std disks cant cope and warp..............and they warp VERY easily!!
So, i am now going to use Mintex or Ferrodo pads with std disks........ will let u know how it goes.
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got plain discs with EBC greenstuff pads, il be wary of warping thou. seems like vibration has gone, il find out for sure in 200 miles or so
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looks like vibration has gone and the braking has more bite than with any grooved / drilled setups I have had in the past.
PLAIN DISCS ALL THE WAY
PLAIN DISCS ALL THE WAY
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I'm very happy with my std vented ferodo premier disks and ferodo DS2000 pads
New drums, shoes, bearings, and cylinders on the rear have helped too
What brake fluid are ya using ? im using Castrol Super dot 4 topped up with a little Car Plan Super dot 4
New drums, shoes, bearings, and cylinders on the rear have helped too
What brake fluid are ya using ? im using Castrol Super dot 4 topped up with a little Car Plan Super dot 4
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had a read up this morning, Castrol Super Dot 4 seems like a good choice, good mix of price and performance
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just been to ford dealer, they do a Ford Super Dot 4 Brake Fluid. any1 tried this?
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rightio got these bits together now
painted cossie calipars
new plain 280mm odd discs
ebc greenstuff pads
new ford Rs1800 master cylinder
mirage ss reservoir, not a cover
mirage ss servo cover hopefully soon
super dot 4 flulid.
and maybe some 240mm rear discs
everythg but the rears should be on next week or week after.
keep the faith, i will try to make a fiesta handle and stop better than ur average family saloon
painted cossie calipars
new plain 280mm odd discs
ebc greenstuff pads
new ford Rs1800 master cylinder
mirage ss reservoir, not a cover
mirage ss servo cover hopefully soon
super dot 4 flulid.
and maybe some 240mm rear discs
everythg but the rears should be on next week or week after.
keep the faith, i will try to make a fiesta handle and stop better than ur average family saloon
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lol sounds good chap me still after fittin mondy 280mm disks and calipers:) should make it stop better than it does at the mo
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i'm pretty certain the standard mondys had different brake set up to the ST series of mondeo's.. the V6 are the ones i am after as i hear they are v similar to the fez but just need the disk offset changed by -3mm and hte caliper/hub bolt hole widening a touch... please correct me if wrong tho as i really need new brakes!
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V6, 4x4, ST models.....280mm and rear discs
all others inc 1.8/2.0....260mm and massive drums
all others inc 1.8/2.0....260mm and massive drums
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Re: and now for braking!
fiesta_fras :FRST calipars on 285mm discs using spacers
Is this similar to Rally Design's conversion?
You want to shift the old brake setup chap? They should fit my (2i) calipers (IIRC they're the same as FRST ones), I'm looking for a brake upgrade. I don't have a monster engine so cossie stuff is a bit OTT for me, I think another 25mm of brake disc should help for now What size rims you have these under btw?
Nige
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Hmm... what... eh?
'94 mondeo. Pass the mortgage, son.
Hmm... what... eh?
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i have 1.6 si master cylinder
i took all the linkage off gave it a clean and put it back n while engine was out
NEW brake lines all round goodridge braided hoses
had my cossie front calipers rebuilt (sent mine to burtons for £108 + VAT) they sent me some new ones back
i have a fiesta centre rear disk conversion using granada rear calipers normal disks and pads.
i have not changed the front rear brake balance but i find the rear end is easier to control it now brakes with the rest of the car (before i found when heavy braking round a corner in the wet the rear of the car would have a mind of its own)
i use mercedes brake fluid as fiesta boy nicked a load for me lol
i have 1.6 si master cylinder
i took all the linkage off gave it a clean and put it back n while engine was out
NEW brake lines all round goodridge braided hoses
had my cossie front calipers rebuilt (sent mine to burtons for £108 + VAT) they sent me some new ones back
i have a fiesta centre rear disk conversion using granada rear calipers normal disks and pads.
i have not changed the front rear brake balance but i find the rear end is easier to control it now brakes with the rest of the car (before i found when heavy braking round a corner in the wet the rear of the car would have a mind of its own)
i use mercedes brake fluid as fiesta boy nicked a load for me lol
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