area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
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area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
Does anyone have any pictures of one of these actually fitted to the car or off of the car in pieces?
are they a modified rover item or a complete new inlet?
also does anyone know a rough price?
are they a modified rover item or a complete new inlet?
also does anyone know a rough price?
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
Uses a standard type 'twin 40' inlet manifold, with a custom plenum.
Zero loss?? The laws of physics don't apply to Area Six.
Overpriced. Welding was rough on the one I saw.
Zero loss?? The laws of physics don't apply to Area Six.
Overpriced. Welding was rough on the one I saw.
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
Captain Tightpants :Uses a standard type 'twin 40' inlet manifold, with a custom plenum.
Zero loss?? The laws of physics don't apply to Area Six.
Overpriced. Welding was rough on the one I saw.
yeah i know there is no such think as zero loss as nothing is gained for free simple as work has to be done to move an object so there are then losses...
thats quite interesting then if it uses a twin 40 type plenum! are there bosses for the injectors machined into it then or does it rely on a sandwich plate effort?
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
im sure its the same one luca has...
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
Hi James. Not exactly what you wanted but are these any good for you?
Rover Inlet with Zetec adapter plate
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1170 ... iumhf6.jpg
Sitec Racing one on this thread.
http://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266915
Rover Inlet with Zetec adapter plate
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1170 ... iumhf6.jpg
Sitec Racing one on this thread.
http://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266915
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
s**t welding!!!!
HAS TO BE THE BEST ALLOY WELDING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!
Here is mine fitted to a head
Why buy an inlet from anyone else when you you know this is tried / tested and works!
It will flow huge horsepower and will bolt straight onto your car.
Anyone who has taken a ride in an Area-Six car will appreciate the relentless power delivery, ofter described as ‘like a bike engine’. There is a reason for this!
Following hours of engine dyno research we formulated a design of inlet manifold that will permit the Zetec engine to ‘Breathe’ without restriction. These assemblies offer zero loss of flow at the inlet valve despite the air having to turn through 90 degrees prior to cylinder entry. During back to back testing, this manifold allowed our test engine to increase both HP and RPM limit significantly. The manifold is recorded as adding an additional 50HP on a 320HP engine, and allowing significantly more on higher HP applications. Traditionally this manifold has extended the torque band by over 1400rpm, and HP is retained at high RPM that we need to use the rev limiters to prevent engine failure.
HAS TO BE THE BEST ALLOY WELDING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!
Here is mine fitted to a head
Why buy an inlet from anyone else when you you know this is tried / tested and works!
It will flow huge horsepower and will bolt straight onto your car.
Anyone who has taken a ride in an Area-Six car will appreciate the relentless power delivery, ofter described as ‘like a bike engine’. There is a reason for this!
Following hours of engine dyno research we formulated a design of inlet manifold that will permit the Zetec engine to ‘Breathe’ without restriction. These assemblies offer zero loss of flow at the inlet valve despite the air having to turn through 90 degrees prior to cylinder entry. During back to back testing, this manifold allowed our test engine to increase both HP and RPM limit significantly. The manifold is recorded as adding an additional 50HP on a 320HP engine, and allowing significantly more on higher HP applications. Traditionally this manifold has extended the torque band by over 1400rpm, and HP is retained at high RPM that we need to use the rev limiters to prevent engine failure.
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
In fairness that welding certainly looks better than the one I saw, all the outlets on the back were on the piss too!
So area six just get the plenum made then?
So how much does this magic zero loss plenum cost then as a matter of interest?
Steve
So area six just get the plenum made then?
So how much does this magic zero loss plenum cost then as a matter of interest?
Steve
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
ive seen better weldin
i was curius about what the comment was all about.
ive never heard a bad word bout area six
i was curius about what the comment was all about.
ive never heard a bad word bout area six
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
I cant remember how much the inlet is best to call/email Ian
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
How can there be zero loss of flow? just air flowing over a material causes resistance = loss of flow
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
You are all looking into this too much!
This inlet has only ever shown gains so from fitting the manifold you receive zero loss (as in you always get posisitive gains!)
This inlet has only ever shown gains so from fitting the manifold you receive zero loss (as in you always get posisitive gains!)
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
oh sorry i took it from your quote-
'These assemblies offer zero loss of flow at the inlet valve despite the air having to turn through 90 degrees prior to cylinder entry'
i must have miss understood how it was written
sorry
'These assemblies offer zero loss of flow at the inlet valve despite the air having to turn through 90 degrees prior to cylinder entry'
i must have miss understood how it was written
sorry
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
luca :You are all looking into this too much!
This inlet has only ever shown gains so from fitting the manifold you receive zero loss (as in you always get posisitive gains!)
Depending of course on what your comparing it to.
So the manifold should be named, 'Area-Six Less Loss Than Standard Inlet Manifold'.
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
Agreed you would need to test various inlets back to back on a control engine to see the gains that this one would or maybe wont show over them.
At least with this set up you can see the cars that have run or do run with it and that they all produce the numbers claimed
At least with this set up you can see the cars that have run or do run with it and that they all produce the numbers claimed
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
well i have emailed ian and they are £780 with the fuel rail and -6 fittings on both ends..
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
their exhaust manifolds are cheaper than that, at £480 posted and i think thats a very good price.
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
The exhaust manifold leaves a lot to desire though, I would imagine you get uneven back pressure across the cylinders at high RPM. IIRC Ian has changed the design to an OBX hump style hasn't he? Can't knock the numbers they've made though
Ratspeed :Maybe Wardy257 has a magazine article on it................
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
SiZT :The exhaust manifold leaves a lot to desire though, I would imagine you get uneven back pressure across the cylinders at high RPM. IIRC Ian has changed the design to an OBX hump style hasn't he? Can't knock the numbers they've made though
the first i heard
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RS_seg :SiZT :The exhaust manifold leaves a lot to desire though, I would imagine you get uneven back pressure across the cylinders at high RPM. IIRC Ian has changed the design to an OBX hump style hasn't he? Can't knock the numbers they've made though
the first i heard
Really?
Check out the collector design and the header lengths.
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
so what are you saying?, ian has a new design?
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
SiZT :The exhaust manifold leaves a lot to desire though, I would imagine you get uneven back pressure across the cylinders at high RPM. IIRC Ian has changed the design to an OBX hump style hasn't he? Can't knock the numbers they've made though
thats the reason i didnt go for one of their exhausts, am very tempted by the inlet tho....
the exhaust doesnt have equal length runners and has one big collector rather than smooth transition between the individual primarys into one... this isnt good for flow characteristics as as soon as a fluid hits a large void it slows right down, where as if it had gone 2-4-1 it would have kept the speed up alot compaired to the bucket type thing thats used.
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
RS_seg :so what are you saying?, ian has a new design?
yes I believe so, its a very similar design to This, Paul J has one on his focus and theres a thread on here of a Mk1 Cortina with a zt using one aswell. Though its fitment into a fiesta may foul the radiator. The exhaust manifold your using is a lot better designed and is similar to the Jamsport/WRC items
Ratspeed :Maybe Wardy257 has a magazine article on it................
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Re: area siz zero loss ZT inlet manifold
If i was doing the manifold than i would do the collector like this
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3835589
Ian does do a equal length manifold if you ask for it
I'm sure Ian has tested the manifolds on his flow bench and they have been tested on engines that make over 500bhp and 180mph witch i'm sure most people will be happy with that sort of performance.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3835589
Ian does do a equal length manifold if you ask for it
I'm sure Ian has tested the manifolds on his flow bench and they have been tested on engines that make over 500bhp and 180mph witch i'm sure most people will be happy with that sort of performance.
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