Bang for Buck question..
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Given a choice of:
1.8 Zetec, 130PS version
and
2.0 Zetec, stock Mondeo lump
Which gives the easiest tuning/£, i.e. greatest bang for yer buck? Have a choice of two, both similar priced lumps; fitting costs are not an issue. It's tunability i'm after! Did hear of someone with 170-somthing horses out of an RS1800, but loadsamoney can give over 200 with the 2.0.
Guidance, please?
1.8 Zetec, 130PS version
and
2.0 Zetec, stock Mondeo lump
Which gives the easiest tuning/£, i.e. greatest bang for yer buck? Have a choice of two, both similar priced lumps; fitting costs are not an issue. It's tunability i'm after! Did hear of someone with 170-somthing horses out of an RS1800, but loadsamoney can give over 200 with the 2.0.
Guidance, please?
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Id say its more of an issue as to where you want the power to come in.
tunes 1800's need revving highly whereas the 2 litres obviously make a bit more lower down
tunes 1800's need revving highly whereas the 2 litres obviously make a bit more lower down
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On 2002-03-23 16:46, fiesta_fras wrote:
defo go for the 1.0 Front wheel drive 4 speed,
Are you takin the 'piss mate?
well mines a 5 speed so there!
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I didn't think there would be much in it. Is there much difference on which one is easiest to turbocharge (and don't say the 1 litre!)
The 2 litre lump may well be a bit better for normally aspirated, I think; I still want some bottom end grunt!
The thing that got me thinking was that there isn't much bhp wise inbetween them, although the 2.0 has better torque, obviously. I was just curoius, considering the way for the normal 1.8's is to go 130ps route, so where does the 2 litre go?
The car should only weigh in at about 850kg, but will still need to be used for trips around the town!
Does beg the question, though - has anyone with a 16v XR2i fitted a 2.0 (or 2.1) instead of going the turbo route?
The 2 litre lump may well be a bit better for normally aspirated, I think; I still want some bottom end grunt!
The thing that got me thinking was that there isn't much bhp wise inbetween them, although the 2.0 has better torque, obviously. I was just curoius, considering the way for the normal 1.8's is to go 130ps route, so where does the 2 litre go?
The car should only weigh in at about 850kg, but will still need to be used for trips around the town!
Does beg the question, though - has anyone with a 16v XR2i fitted a 2.0 (or 2.1) instead of going the turbo route?
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2.0 gives the most power, and torque, so you know it makes sense. You'll have the change the sump, water pump, oil pickup pipe, dipstick tube and a couple of other bits, but thats all that needs doing to the 2.0 engine to get it in the Fiesta. The 2.0 also features oil jets which spray the bottom of the pistons for cooling.
Any why settle for a 1.8 badge on the boot, when a 2.0 looks so much better
Any why settle for a 1.8 badge on the boot, when a 2.0 looks so much better
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2L for the respekt value
when u come to turboing it, the 1.8 is easyer and cheaper to do... the 2L costs alot more (managment to run it etc) but u get better power figures....
when u come to turboing it, the 1.8 is easyer and cheaper to do... the 2L costs alot more (managment to run it etc) but u get better power figures....
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not sure, maybee, but to get full usage out of it i think something like wot sunny has got is needed (pectel i think) not sure.. mr stewart, sunny etc are ur men for the info really
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mark S had a 2L fitted fopr some time, his was the first series 3 in a fiesta i beleive... mmogenbius(paul) now has that engine, it was in his 16V xr2i for a while, i think its going into the type R tho (FRST shell) marky S also had series 2 2L in, so he will tell u differences etc...
not sure on power figures and torque etc ...
not sure on power figures and torque etc ...
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Well the thing is going down custom management oute is that although you get more power... more money needs to be spent so it doesnt go bang halfway down the road!
So i'm thinking along the lines of a 2L mondeo engine. Changing sump, pump etc.. and then turbo it but still running FRST management.
I would want a comp ratio of 8.1:1 so does anyone know if its possible to machine the original pistons to a c/r as low as this(cheap) or will it have to be Bucks on a new set?
Then hopefully a better set up of fueling, say biege injectors and get the ecu chipped.
All this so i can run around 15psi.
As i said, im not looking to run high boost
main concern is the management so anyone out there with experience, warnings, tips?
Cheers
Asad
So i'm thinking along the lines of a 2L mondeo engine. Changing sump, pump etc.. and then turbo it but still running FRST management.
I would want a comp ratio of 8.1:1 so does anyone know if its possible to machine the original pistons to a c/r as low as this(cheap) or will it have to be Bucks on a new set?
Then hopefully a better set up of fueling, say biege injectors and get the ecu chipped.
All this so i can run around 15psi.
As i said, im not looking to run high boost
main concern is the management so anyone out there with experience, warnings, tips?
Cheers
Asad
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i dunno really mate, i only have an Si lol!
but i gues its down to reliability.... i ams sure one of the big boys on here will help you out
ian will come in now and ask why i am in the tuning section
but i gues its down to reliability.... i ams sure one of the big boys on here will help you out
ian will come in now and ask why i am in the tuning section
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If you weight up the cost of say, a unichip against how much it will cost you for an aftermarket ECU I reckon you will find the ECU works out a better bet.
Seriously, look into it properly and see how the sums stack up.
Seriously, look into it properly and see how the sums stack up.
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