Best way to Tune 2i 1.6 8v Lump to.........

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Best way to Tune 2i 1.6 8v Lump to.........

Postby Mr Jungle on Sat Apr 20, 2002 11:02 am

130 Bhp dead please guys. And no i dont wanna turbo! :Q
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Postby chumkila on Sat Apr 20, 2002 3:14 pm

Induction Kit
Exhaust
Cam
Throttle Bodies
Chip.
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Postby Mr Jungle on Sat Apr 20, 2002 6:38 pm

OK so Exaust,Cam,Chip sounds good and proper, but i dont have money for Throttle Bodies :(

Any other ideas? :Q

chumkila :Induction Kit
Exhaust
Cam
Throttle Bodies
Chip.
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Postby chumkila on Sat Apr 20, 2002 7:47 pm

some head work i.e. port and polish. :devil: it'd be fookin rapid Jungle.
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sat Apr 20, 2002 8:00 pm

hi i have 132bhp 2 get that it cost £3500 that's cam ,head, 1649cc, and efi boots, chip, exhauts, and lots and lots of bit and lot of pep say that they have 140 or 150 its all ball u can get 175 bhp but thats zvh 2.l and throttle bodies if that help c the efi is the bit that f**ks u up u can not get the air in u wont if u can till me and we can make lot of £ :lol: but i still kik ars 106 gti and some sh*t frst and rst so its fun. go 4 the wot chum siad (o N.O.S can b fun its about £550 and u get 30bhp)
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Postby Project on Sun Apr 21, 2002 12:37 am

This exact question has been asked before (was it you that asked first time Jungle??). Headwork and a stronger bottom end are needed really. With a custom ground cam, Power Engineering have got a 2i 8v to 132.

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Head work (port, polish, oversize valves, bronze guides)
Custom cam
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Raised compression with Mahle pistons to around 10:1 ish (will run 95 RON with no probs I think)
FSE boost valve (although the benefit it provides is debatable ;) )
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Postby Mr Jungle on Sun Apr 21, 2002 5:13 pm

Oh er i think it would probably be cheaper to let my mate drop a re-condtioned Turbo Lump in or maybe buy a whole new FRST.

Thing is im not looking for SERIOUS power, just a fairly rapid car @ around 120BHP.

A mechanic i know has offered to POrT and POilSh the HEaD (as Chum said :wink: ), and add a fast road cam to suit. Thing is as standard the car is quick as fook of the line in 1st and 2nd, 3rd and 4th are just OK but not really that quick. Any XR 2i owners know what i mean???

I have no problems taking alot cars of the line in fact, its just anthing after 2nd gear which needs a bit of pep.

What does our pro's think?


Nuff said :Q
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Postby Mr Jungle on Sun Apr 21, 2002 5:22 pm

Also, whats the best device to Iron out flatspots and keep an engine reving hard? :Q
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Postby chumkila on Sun Apr 21, 2002 5:42 pm

a chip will sort that flat-spot. just make sure its the LAST thing in your mod list after you have carried out all the mods u wish so it can be set-up just right taking into account your mods. :wink:
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Postby Mr Jungle on Sun Apr 21, 2002 5:48 pm

Right so, its a Port and Polish, Cam and a Chip to suit. That sounds like more what im after.

What should that see me too ? :Q
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Postby chumkila on Sun Apr 21, 2002 5:53 pm

bout 120ish minimum. dont wana get ur hopes up TOO high now!! :D :wink: :D
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Postby Mr Jungle on Sun Apr 21, 2002 7:44 pm

Now that sounds like a tasty power output. fancy a race anyone?

:Q
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Postby chumkila on Sun Apr 21, 2002 8:29 pm

gimme 8 weeks! :D :wink: :D

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Postby xr2i 1649 on Sun Apr 21, 2002 8:38 pm

i well have a go but my car is in bits trying 2 put new lump in but its not going well :(
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Postby ~nomad~ on Sun Apr 21, 2002 8:45 pm

I know what you are saying about 3rd and 4th mate. I dont tend to drive mine too quick cos it sounds like I am hurting it :(
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Postby turbo man on Mon Apr 22, 2002 11:53 am

Tell you what mate, give me your engine and I'll get serious bhp from it 4 peanuts. I had a 1.6cvh on carbs, exhaust and std cam with head work I did, ran 140hp with 135lb/ft torque. I can sort you the engine you just have to get the chip. It will use all the std stuff just knock up some better manifolds/exhaust and give it a good gas flow, stick in a cam and you will be laughin! mail me at mark_rst@hotmail.com if you are seriously interested.
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Postby Mr Jungle on Mon Apr 22, 2002 12:14 pm

Sounds good but whats the betting you live miles away ?!!! :Q

turbo man :Tell you what mate, give me your engine and I'll get serious bhp from it 4 peanuts. I had a 1.6cvh on carbs, exhaust and std cam with head work I did, ran 140hp with 135lb/ft torque. I can sort you the engine you just have to get the chip. It will use all the std stuff just knock up some better manifolds/exhaust and give it a good gas flow, stick in a cam and you will be laughin! mail me at mark_rst@hotmail.com if you are seriously interested.
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Postby Mr Jungle on Mon Apr 22, 2002 12:17 pm

Hey i like your car :wink:

My engine doesent sound like im hurting it though chap, quite the oppostie!!! its sounds like it looks, and if you havent all seen it look in the members gallery :Q

nomadxr2i :I know what you are saying about 3rd and 4th mate. I dont tend to drive mine too quick cos it sounds like I am hurting it :(
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Postby turbo man on Mon Apr 22, 2002 1:02 pm

Well where do you live, I can travel about a bit, I even have some parts here so I could build it and then deliver a whole engine, then you just swap them.
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Postby Mr Jungle on Mon Apr 22, 2002 4:44 pm

I live in the south west. Do you do Turbo Conversions?

P.S how much should i pay for a Turbo Lump guys ? :Q
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Postby turbo man on Mon Apr 22, 2002 5:10 pm

As the name suggests yes I do! I can hook you up with a modified RST engine pretty much straight away as I have one in the mincer at the moment (1600 about 200hp), or I can strap on a zetec bottom end instead (1800 more than 230-250hp), or if you can hack the pace and wait a bit I can get you a fully fledged zetec turbo that will run on erst managment (very easy to install). Depends which way you want to go really. All you would have to supply yourself is an rst gearbox, if you wanted one, and an erst engine loom, or again I can get hold of these at extra cost. Simple really. I can bring the engine down to you aswell at the cost of basically nothing as I have a "mean as they get" 950cc nova saloon that costs £6 lancaster to south birmingham in petrol! (economy is the way to travel, cossie is the way to race!)
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Postby ~nomad~ on Mon Apr 22, 2002 9:42 pm

Jungle - thanks, it is a good looking car when the photos taken at a clever angle :D When I say it feels like I am hurting it I am just talking about the roar it makes at high revs. :lol:

turbo man - how much are we looking at for a frst conversion all in?
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Postby chumkila on Mon Apr 22, 2002 10:58 pm

230-250bhp just by adding a 1800 zetec bottom end??? mmmmmmmm :rolleyes:
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Postby turbo man on Tue Apr 23, 2002 2:33 pm

Chumkila: 230-250bhp just by adding a 1800 zetec bottom end


Yeah I wish!

Or if you look the original offer was for a 200hp 1600cvh so the increase is with a ztec bottom end put on increasing capacity and strength resulting in an increase of about 30-50hp depending on final setup.
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Postby chumkila on Thu Apr 25, 2002 7:40 am

whatever! goodbye to you sir once again.
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Postby Mr Jungle on Thu May 02, 2002 3:14 pm

Ahh, i see why you guys dont like Turbo man. I take it he's been on here before?

Plugging engines to us poor unexpecting fez owners.

One things for sure,i think Chum doesent like him :wink:
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Postby chumkila on Thu May 02, 2002 5:23 pm

naaaaahhhhhh i love EVERYONE!
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Thu May 02, 2002 6:33 pm

and i love ur car :lol:
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Postby chumkila on Thu May 02, 2002 6:45 pm

OoooooooooooH Errrrrrrrrrr Missus!! Suits you sir!! :D :oooh: :D
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Postby xr2i 1649 on Thu May 02, 2002 7:11 pm

:lol: :Q :Q :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby chumkila on Thu May 02, 2002 7:20 pm

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Postby ArronXR2i on Wed May 08, 2002 9:17 pm

mate, some advice - steeeer well clear of Cams,

they are more hassle than they are worth,


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Postby Project on Thu May 09, 2002 2:05 am

Moosey; what's bad about cams?
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Postby chumkila on Thu May 09, 2002 10:38 am

GET the cams. :)
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Postby Mr Jungle on Thu May 09, 2002 11:15 am

To Cam or not to Cam, that is the question !!! Who do i trust, Moosey or Chum? :Q
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