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Re: Sierra 3dr Cosworth - Big update and 35psi

Postby Stuartcarvell on Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:20 am

Thanks for the reply,
That is what I thought they were, I'm looking at getting some for my kit car.
How good are they on rear visibility?
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Re: Sierra 3dr Cosworth - Big update and 35psi

Postby Brammer on Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:00 pm

You can see behind fine
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Re: Sierra 3dr Cosworth - Big update and 35psi

Postby knuckles on Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:19 pm

awesome car :D

glad you got to the bottom of the problem
i really fancy getting a sierra saphire cosworth in black but not to sure what they are like to maintain or run daily :-?
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Re: Sierra 3dr Cosworth - Big update and 35psi

Postby Brammer on Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:16 pm

knuckles :awesome car :D

glad you got to the bottom of the problem
i really fancy getting a sierra saphire cosworth in black but not to sure what they are like to maintain or run daily :-?


Clarke i really don't advice buying one for an every day driver, it's not that they won't work as a well set up car will give you little problem (less than some RST's) it's the service side of things like on most cars it could be quiet expensive on the clutch, brake etc side of things. Just been reading up on the Recaro thread and :cry:

Right it's that time again - complete spec change again :lol:

First off is the Turbo - the Harvey Gibbs T38 .63 hybrid is coming off and a GT3076 internally gated unit is going on - this model is suited for 500+bhp

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Got most of the fitting kit ordered

Oil restrictor - banjo water feeds - oil return - Grp A K&N & 102mm inlet hose :oooh:


Next up is the Engine - The current engine is a standard 205 block with unknown internal sizes but was completely rebuilt in January 2008 covering just 2811 miles but with the car currently running 441bhp i can't risk it any further so i have sourced a 200 block bought in late 2009 and has only covered 500 miles before being stripped. The block has been machined and has 10 mountune stud converesion in it and has pocketed Cosworth racing pistons to match so a strong engine can be built from it.

Suspected engine block spec will be something like this but i will get a confirmed spec from the tuners but i'm wanting to build an engine that will take at least 550bhp as 500 is my aim.

Also i have been playing around with the spare rocker cover i had - got it blasted, then lightly etch primed and covered in black crackle/wrinkle paint, i have done this process before but this time got it under some heat lamps and the finish is pretty good from the can - the dull pictures are what it looks like to the eye, i was after a textured plastic finish and it's come out pretty close

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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby FRSJON on Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:30 pm

nice work chris :Q
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby rsonblackwheels on Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:27 pm

gr8 stuff dude, looks like your going to be real busy :)

really like the cam cover :Q looking forward to the up-date

legendary car, easily my fav 3door

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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby muz on Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:11 pm

Looking good Chris. You might as well get H-Beam rods rather than shot peened. Shot peening will cost about £40 a rod anyway. The crackle looks good. I found putting 3 heavy coats on about 1 minute apart with a hairdryer/heatgun on hottest setting between coats and then untill the finish matts up then leave for about a week to harden. The wrinkle goes real tight and small.
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby MAD_Adamski on Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:29 pm

No chris is going the correct route now muz :P ,,, i was very tempted to shot peen my rods! but i decided my spec was needing H beams. I say to everyone a T38 is a s**t turbo you WILL feel a big difference on the GT30.... The peened rods can even be good for 600hp muz...

My engine is with MAD currently and awaiting the rods and pistons from America (should be in this week) so can't wait to get mine all hooked up and slap my Gt35 up... tbh my engine could do SERIOUS power but its not needed i built it for torque.. gonna get mine built and see how we get on maybe change the inlet after... but CHRIS defo the right direction!
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby MAD_Adamski on Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:30 pm

PS may aswell get a wrc breather now too :P
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby muz on Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:23 am

I've heard shot peened rods are ok, several people running them at 500 but TBH for the cost to do them, how cheap steel rods are in the grand schyme of things and the fact Chris doesn't do things by halves, not really worth it. Anway Adam, stop trolling and get building. :lol:
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby MAD_Adamski on Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:33 am

you do realise cossie H rods are nothing like zetec ones or cvh ! they cost 1k! Anyway i'm waiting on everyone else! engine with MAD gearbox on route from sweden, car going to jamie's, 2 new rear wheels on order to all be painted grey... LARS has my stuff STILL... And i am sat here waiting :rolleyes: :lol:
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby Brammer on Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:53 am

Just sourcing a few bit's at the minute - but the grand plan is to take the car off the road for 2 years and rebuild it

I'm waiting on my mate sourcing parts for me as he's a breaker, just waiting for a late spec standard size crankshaft to come available then i can send it all off for machine work. I'm going to be using standard rods that will be lightened, balance and peened
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby jayrs on Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:01 am

2 years for a rebuild! mates its fudgekin mint as it is :o
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Turbo & bottom end changes

Postby Brammer on Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:47 am

jayrs :2 years for a rebuild! mates its fudgekin mint as it is :o


Theirs always room for improvements Jay :bonkers:

Been really slow with this as we had our little one 4 weeks ago and she is taking up all our time, i was hoping to get the bottom end out last week but my mate who was helping and lending his equipment has got his missus knocked up too :aaah: so a slight delay.

I have only managed to source a few parts 60mm radiator, MK Motorsport air injector bracket & Spec R breather system.

Just waiting for the Motorsport development xmas sale now for a Newman BD16 cam, double valve springs, uprated diff hanger, 83Ib injectors, live map inc closed loop, ALS & Launch control :devil:

More updates soon but i few pictures just before it came off the road :D

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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby jayrs on Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:10 pm

congrates to you and you missis on the baby mate :D

sounds like a plan for the car mate, cant wait for more updates to come :Q
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby FRSJON on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:40 pm

congratulations chris to you and the family :) the car will only be fit for a museum after a 2 year rebuild :lol:
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:52 pm

the 3 door looks :Q mate
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - engine out

Postby Brammer on Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:26 am

I have been accumulating new and replacement parts all winter now and although my spec has changed slightly from building a fully blown motor i am continuing to use the rebuilt original engine as it's been spot on up to now so until it blows it's gonna get serious pain :gimpy:

I have chosen to keep it off the road for 2011 which means i can spent time putting it together properly and for it to be ready to jump in come the 1st April 2012.

This is what the car currently looks like

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My Cylinder head has had some TLC - after an inspection one of the front water galleries has been repaired at some point in the past and i'm no expert but didn't look the best of jobs although it manage to handle over 400bhp, not being happy in refitting it like it was it's away at a local specialist having the whole section removed and re-welded and skimmed.
I was going to have a local company rebuild the head but as i have the time i think i'll get it cleaned and rebuild it myself ready for the new AB07 inlet cam which should work work well with the head as it's ported to 26mm all round.

Parts that have arrived ready -

Spec R - 5 port breather system - the catch tank needs to have one of the outlets removed from the rear and fitting in the front due to the strut brace fouling it. i seem to have grown a Aeroquip fetish :gimpy: so replaced all the slightly marked fitting with brand new and i'm going for the stealth black braided hose :thumbsup:

Other parts are:-

4 pots calipers
Reyland fitting kit, bells, TRE's etc
MSD diff mount
MSD magnet oil plugs
More Roose hosing
Bailey swirl pot
Siemens 83Ib injectors
Garrett GT3076r turbo
102mm air filter
Airtec 60mm alloy radiator
Airtec twin fan setup
MSD water temp switch
Cometic top end gaskets
Wrinkle finish rocker (machined by MONSTER Dave )
Repainted manifold
Air injector bracket from MK Motorsport
New Goodridge brake hoses
Inline turbo oil filter

Once all this is finished and ready to roll it will be going off to Blackpool to see MSD for a map

The Start

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The result of timing the car up to the V in the pulley and not the peg

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Commandeered the downstairs utility room

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The parts room which the missus is waiting to fit a new couch into

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Removed the bottom end purely to remove the sump ready for big wing conversion

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Nice workshop

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The old girl still going after 25 years now on .5 overbore

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Quick look around the block and it seems fine with no cracks, 2 of the 3 bolts that hold the alternater bracket are snapped off so they need to be removed at some point, the clutch is in surprisingly good condition the AP 6 paddle was fitted about 2k miles ago and was expecting it to be warn bad due to some of the over enthusiastic driving i do but it's absolutely fine and hardly touched, should do another 10 years+ by the looks of it but i'll throw a new release bearing in just for matter of course.

Sump was removed and sent to Doug (G19) for big wing conversion

Found all sorts in the sump pan and on the oil pump pick up, bit's of metal and silicon, the silicon stuff is what blocked my head the other year causing starvation to the exhaust side resulting in a snapped camshaft so i'm glad it's stripped and cleaned

Camshaft reminder from 2009

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Sump removed

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And returned back to me this morning

haven't got time to put it back together for a another couple of weeks but that gives me time to get the head cleaned and the valves removed and re lapped in.

The sump and new gated baffle well worth the money

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Nice baffle

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Steering rack.

Sick and tired of having issues with the rack i have opted for solid bushes and want to remove the standard cooling bar as it's not pretty and replace with a small cooler

Bargain buy £26.00 for the kit off the bay

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The cam cover arrived back from 'MONSTER' Dave - looks awesome and to go for something different will look awesome under the bonnet

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Dummy fit the air to air bracket

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The breather system confused the hell out of me which way was best to plumb up but i am just fitting 1 to inlet side, 1 to the cam cover, 2 to the catch tank, and the return to the block on the ex side. Doug has welded a -10AN fitting to the exhaust wing on the sump if i ever change that.

Needs a new satin black powdercoat

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Just started to buy more new bit's

I think i have sourced a Spec R header tank with sight glass to match the breather tank so that will get a coating of satin black to match.



Thats it for now -

I did get the head back after the rewelding work but had to return it due to one of the bolt's snapping in the rear water outlet so thats back tonight ready for it's strip down
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby jayrs on Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:51 am

i love your updates chris, always lots going on and no expense spared :Q

loving the sump, that looks a nice bit of kit there :Q
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby Fraggle on Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:00 am

:bonkers: :o ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh Beast :o :Q :Q
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:03 am

good stuff, some neat welds there :Q
looks the trick that baffle
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby Turboboy67 on Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:54 am

Good work mate, I bet you're popular with the other half with all those bits scattered around the house :x :lol: :lol:

This is going to be rather special once finished :Q

I missed you at Croft last year, It wasn't until the following day looking through some show pictures I saw your car there :lol:

Will you yourself be at any shows this year ?

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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby Brammer on Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:37 am

jayrs :i love your updates chris, always lots going on and no expense spared :Q

loving the sump, that looks a nice bit of kit there :Q


Cheers Jay - with the little one things have had to slow down hence spending 12 months to put it back on the road instead of 12 days :lol: :lol: :lol:

Carbonboy67 :Good work mate, I bet you're popular with the other half with all those bits scattered around the house :x :lol: :lol:

This is going to be rather special once finished :Q

I missed you at Croft last year, It wasn't until the following day looking through some show pictures I saw your car there :lol:

Will you yourself be at any shows this year ?

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Shaun we have a good understanding, i wear the trousers so i say what goes :lol: nah i'm one of the lucky ones with a missus that understands my hobby

Croft was a brief show last year due to the weather, in fact it was that brief some of our group didn't even know i'd turned up

Will be doing Cumbria, Ford Fair and ND
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby jayrs on Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:35 pm

i got 4 kids mate and took how long to do my RS, and how longs it taking me to do the xr2 :lol: :lol: so i cant say anything :bonkers:
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby Brammer on Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:48 pm

jayrs :i got 4 kids mate and took how long to do my RS, and how longs it taking me to do the xr2 :lol: :lol: so i cant say anything :bonkers:


:lol: you still not done that xr2 - all in good time though :D

Right done a little bit more today

Removed the steering rack from the car -

Removed these

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Fitted these solid mounting bushes

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Old track rod ends out and nice new REYLAND rose jointed item in

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Can't really be bothered to paint it so it goes back in

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The power steering pump will go off to the machine shop this week to have the oil feed fitting removed and tapped ready for the new fitting to help make room for the new inlet manifold

The cylinder head is all ready to be built back up with new parts but i am struggling getting the exhaust valves clean as they are thick with carbon, they have been in Mr Muscle for 3 days and they are still pitted any tips?

Hopefully i should have the top end built by next week ready to fit to the block. First i just need to remove the oil pump and fit the new 85Ib pressure release kit and then the sump can go back on and back in the car :Q
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby jayrs on Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:46 pm

no mate :lol: :lol: , i havent touched it in about 16 months tbh, plus im doing clarks car at the mo, but once thats done im cracking on with the xr2, ive decided to just sort it as a daily rather than balls out full restore/show car

your not painting the rack :-? would of only taken 10 mins mate :lol:
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby M4tty on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:56 pm

Thought id see whats going on here for a change! haha

cars progression looking good!! always been a fan of this!
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - Rebuild kind of begins

Postby Brammer on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:39 pm

Well it's come a long way since i last updated in April

New engine is built and virtually ready to drop in the bay

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Overall engine spec is now:

200 4x4 engine block
Mountune 6 long stud conversion
7:5:1 pistons balanced 5mm pockets
Con rods balanced, weighted
Steel crank balanced
Flywheel balanced
AP 6 Paddle clutch
WRC multi layer metal head gasket
Nick Warple ported cylinder head
Newman BD16+ inlet camshaft
Newman BD8 exhaust camshaft
Newman double valve springs
Adjustable vernier pulleys
G19 Big wing sump & gated baffle
Hart inlet manifold with flowed and matched trumpet section
Modified power steering pump
Mocal power steering fluid cooler
Siemens 83Ib DEKA injectors
4x4 aeroquip’d fuel rail
Garrett GT3076r .82 Turbocharger
Mongoose 3” exhaust system
909 Ford motorsport ignition leads
Spec R - 5 port Aeroquip Grp A spec seperater
Spec R - 2 port Aeroquip catch tank
Spec R - alloy header tank
Spec R – PAS tank
Airtec 60mm alloy radiator
Pro alloy twin slim fans

Pace turbo cooler
Pro alloy swirl pot
Roose motorsport hose
Motorsport Development piston dump valve
Motorsport Development air to air injector
Motorsport Development wasted spark ignition system
4x4 Cosworth Level 8 ECU
Ryan Looms Cosworth braided 4x4 wiring loom
3 bar map sensor
AS 102mm air filter
Goodridge inline turbo filter


The engine bay - Spec R tanks, RS500 heat shield, GGR strut brace

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New brakes are finally complete and fitted - CP5200, Reyland custom bells and brackets to suit splits, AP 330mm Rotors, Ferodo DS2500 pads and Goodridge lines, shortened tie rods and Adj TRE's & 63mm extra long studs - 4X4 Escos Rears to go on at some point

I'm thinking off changing the centres from silver

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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:48 pm

this is without a doubt the best looking 3 door i know of!

silver for me :)
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby jayrs on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:55 pm

nice mate, very nice :Q

im 50/50 on the wheel colour, although i dont really like the gold wheel thing (even centres) i cant help thinking it looks good :aaah:
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby filtra on Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:19 pm

Quite like the gold mate.

This is an imense car, I still remember when you build h196jne and being well impressed at your attention to detail, nothings changed here!

Engine looks lovely too, if you ever come to sell in the distant future, let me know!
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby Brammer on Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:22 am

jayrs :nice mate, very nice :Q

im 50/50 on the wheel colour, although i dont really like the gold wheel thing (even centres) i cant help thinking it looks good :aaah:


I love gold wheels well these and RL7's thats about it - i just think that the silver is looking a bit plain

filtra :Quite like the gold mate.

This is an imense car, I still remember when you build h196jne and being well impressed at your attention to detail, nothings changed here!

Engine looks lovely too, if you ever come to sell in the distant future, let me know!


Kind words, loved building the FRST's - JNE will always be a great car of mine as it's the car that got me back into the RS scene when i moved back to this county - what Shaun and the other owners have done to the car since has what it is today (to be honest i don't know where it is anymore - anyone from here????) but my last red one is the car i should have never sold :(

As for selling i can't see it unless something bad happens
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby RS EDDIE on Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:29 am

Stunning Pal....Just seen this. I dread to [ERRR] how much its costing you!! Looks a beauty tho mate, one of the best left surely!!!! :D
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby jayrs on Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:01 pm

yeah i think the plain loom is whats making me feel the gold :)
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Re: Black 3dr Cosworth - New engine built

Postby FRSJON on Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:35 pm

fudgekin hell chris that looks awesome! :o loving all of it !! :Q :Q :Q
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The second 20th Anniversary article, a dive into the history of how the site came about is available here: https://t.co/kbCfZ4sf0R

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To celebrate https://t.co/wXVkvJipaS being 20 years old this year, I've written a series of articles detailing the… https://t.co/B0vE0Y3KvP

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