Bluefin by Superchips

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Bluefin by Superchips

Postby chris-fiesta on Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:47 pm

been looking into this for a while now and have just looked at a dyno reading for a 1.8tdi focus and bluefin had supposidly given it a 33bhp increase...

been thinking of gettin one for when the 2.0ls in but just wanned to know peoples opinions on this or if theyve used it before, and can it be used more then just once?

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Postby Guy Mk4 on Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:52 pm

Never used one, but as far as I know, they can be used more than once on your own car, I don't think they are transferable to another motor, as when you load up the Bluefin data to the ECU, it stores the original Ford data in it's memory.....so when it comes to sell up, you can just bung the old Ford ECU program back on, as factory.
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Re: Bluefin by Superchips

Postby filtra on Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:31 pm

chris-fiesta :been looking into this for a while now and have just looked at a dyno reading for a 1.8tdi focus and bluefin had supposidly given it a 33bhp increase...

been thinking of gettin one for when the 2.0ls in but just wanned to know peoples opinions on this or if theyve used it before, and can it be used more then just once?

cheers

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I don't think youl see as large gains in a petrol engine particularly if it's n/a. From all the reviews it seems that they are best placed in turbod aplications and turbo diesels more so.
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Postby mike_wall15 on Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:20 pm

I must admit, I didn't think they did bluefin for the old fiesta's, they used chips for that....
I wouldn't pay nearly £300 for one unless I was loaded or had a turbo! :lol:

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Postby RS rob on Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:33 pm

your
right mr wall bluefin is for fords 1996 and younger as they have diagnostics port inside the car etc,

the bluefin is useful tho as it can be played with as much as you like and only works on the one car,


our ageing si's dont allow this, the only option from superchips would be the normal chip, when really a remap is the better option as its custom to your car and mods
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Postby Growler on Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:09 pm

so adding this to a standard xr2i 8v would do what?
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Postby chris-fiesta on Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:21 pm

bridgend_boy :your
right mr wall bluefin is for fords 1996 and younger as they have diagnostics port inside the car etc,

the bluefin is useful tho as it can be played with as much as you like and only works on the one car,


our ageing si's dont allow this, the only option from superchips would be the normal chip, when really a remap is the better option as its custom to your car and mods


can the deep ecu be mapped, and what are prices like on an engine map???

have looked a little more into this and dnt know if its worth it... would make more sense to get a megasquirt as its cheaper and has more bits to fiddle with.
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Postby RS rob on Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:44 pm

for the sake of an 8bhp increase if your extremely lucky with an off the shelf chip, a remap could be alot more worth it depending on mods

as far as i know the mondeo ecu's can be remapped
or if not you could have an external chip which is custom mapped
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Postby chris-fiesta on Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:06 pm

sweet will have to look into it... not in a rush as i wanna get a few mods done 1st, but i think main priority would be gettin the damn lump in the car :lol:
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Postby sailorbob on Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:25 pm

Any Ford ecu with a J3 connector can be chipped but bear in mind that the extent of tuning in these chips mostly consists of advancing the spark timing thus taking away any safeguard against poor quality fuel.
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Postby RS rob on Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:20 pm

cool info sailor bob,

i'd rather have the car remapped on super unleaded,
as you cant always find optimax lol
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Postby chris-fiesta on Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:48 am

bridgend_boy :cool info sailor bob,

i'd rather have the car remapped on super unleaded,
as you cant always find optimax lol


yep, true. never used optimax as its a 1.3 but mite gie it a go when the 2.0l in
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Postby sailorbob on Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:51 am

There's no power benefit from using super unleaded in a stock eec-iv Ford as they don't have a knock sensor to permit timing advance. The only possible gains I can see are from the cleaning properties that they tout for Optimax and it might be just as effective (and cheaper) just to add a bottle of cleaner to the odd tank of fuel now and again.
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Postby Asad on Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:03 am

Doesnt every remap of a Bluefin chip have to be done by the dealer/installer?

With MS, you can do it all yourself, plus you can actually add a switch so that you can have 2 spark maps. Have one for normal and one for optimax and then you can have best of both worlds. Can be done on the fly too... no need to get your laptop out!


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Postby sailorbob on Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:44 am

As far as I know there isn't any remapping of the Bluefin, it comes with the one program that it reflashes the ecu with. you get to read error codes and live data off it too.
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Postby RS rob on Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:32 pm

sailorbob :There's no power benefit from using super unleaded in a stock eec-iv Ford as they don't have a knock sensor to permit timing advance. The only possible gains I can see are from the cleaning properties that they tout for Optimax and it might be just as effective (and cheaper) just to add a bottle of cleaner to the odd tank of fuel now and again.


my car seems to idle better and pick up better with sainsbury's super unleaded, tesco petrol is just crap lol

until they bring the 99ron stuff my way lol
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