Car sits higher at the back

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Postby TimEdwards on Tue Mar 06, 2001 10:13 am

I have a normal mk3 fiesta (not turbo or xr2i as my insurance wont lt me <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/frown.gif">) and i have just had it lowered 35mm all round. It sits sweet at the front but is about 1-1.5 cms higher at the back...its really annoying. I think the previous owner had different shocks at the front which are adjustable but not at the back. Would changing the shocks at the rear to adjustable and having them sorted lower the car a bit at the back or not? Oh..the car sits flat when 2 people are sitting in it....is there anyway other than having a fat f*** sit in my boot all the time??<br><br>Cheers,<br>Tim<br><br>P.S how can i get more power out of my.....dare i say it......1.1 carburetta??? oh the shame <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/frown.gif">.........
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Postby Fake XR2i on Tue Mar 06, 2001 11:20 am

Start with a 'zorst and filter for more power!
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Postby Robz_Fester on Tue Mar 06, 2001 11:50 am

I have 1st hand experince of a 1.1!!! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif"><br>If your on a bit of a budget what does make a difference is to take off the part of the air filter which goes to the front of the car. To do this take off the air filter, makes it easier!! This was designed to let cooler air to the engine but seeing as it's got a vent from the exhaust manifold I doubt it does a good job!! Then replace it, should be a bit more circular, you caould also put 6mm drill holes in the bottom of it around the edge for a louder sound. If you've got £40 buy o a K&N or scorpion though. <br>Not many people make exhausts for the humble 1.1, but Janspeed and Piper(I think) do. If you do all of this you'll prbably gain about 5 bhp, but it will look and sound a lot better. <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif"> <br>
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Postby snake on Tue Mar 06, 2001 12:49 pm

You should have slight nosedown on the front to help the front end dig in during cornering, i`ve set my coilovers to 3-10 mm nosedown(can`t remember exactly)
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Postby snake on Wed Mar 07, 2001 8:26 am

Those measurements do seem a tad excessive!!<br>Take your motor down Santa Pod, you`ll feel at home then!!<br>
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Postby TimEdwards on Wed Mar 07, 2001 9:54 am

Robz [ERRR] do u mean.....i have a peco backbox but what was that stuff u sed about taking off the filter? cheers..<br>Tim
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Postby mikey79 on Wed Mar 07, 2001 11:15 am

I have then nose down look on my XR2i - AND I WANT RID OF IT COS IT POOKS PAP!!!<br><br>I replaced the shocks & springs in December, and now the car looks like a drag racer!<br><br>The rear arch dows sit a bit higher than the front arch, but this is a joke!!<br><br>From ground to centre of wheel arch...<br>Front - 55.5cm<br>Rear - 60.5cm!!!<br><br>Measuring from ground to the line in the centre of the side skirt (should be level)<br>Front - 19cm<br>Rear - 22cm!<br><br>So, being 1 - 1.5cm higher at the back ain't so bad!!<br><br>My springs are being replaced to see if that cures the problem<br><br>Mike
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Postby Paul R on Wed Mar 07, 2001 12:41 pm

If your car nose dives you've got the wrong springs or shocks for your model fiesta, tell me what year and model your Fiesta is and what lowering springs were fitted as the spring types vary<br>Paul R<br>
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Postby icecool on Wed Mar 07, 2001 12:45 pm

Buy a bolt on filter, about £50 from Demon Tweeks, Sounds good and something shiny under the bonnet.
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Postby Simon on Thu Mar 08, 2001 9:40 am

Hi there Snake, what make are your coilovers? I assume that they are AVO or Spax. How do you rate them compared to the standard adjustable kits?<br><br>Cheers.<br><br>Simon.
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Postby Robz_Fester on Thu Mar 08, 2001 10:30 am

Basically you know the air filter looks like a circle with a tube coming out of it (use your imagination <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif">) Take the tube off:<br>Louder noises and better air induction for free!! Or you could do as Mr icecool suggested and buy a nice shiny air filter, will set you back £50 though.<br><br>The choice....is yours,<br>David its over to you.<br><br>Later!!!!!!!!! <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif"> <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif">
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Postby snake on Thu Mar 08, 2001 11:15 am

I`m running Avo`s, the reason for buying them was complete control over the ride height + i`ve got a set of 17`s waiting to go on the car. They are pretty hard but thats how I prefer them, body roll is now pretty much non existant. You can also get springs cheap so you can have full control on the way the car handles. The Avo kit seems to be a minimum drop of 30-35mm, so I may have to get different spring to accomodate the wheels. <br>
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Postby AdrianFRST on Thu Mar 08, 2001 11:40 am

I've got shorter springs on my rear Spax coilovers.<br><br>Pretty cool cos it lets you do this... <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/wink.gif"><br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fiestaturbo.com/adrian.t/vlow1.jpg">
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Postby Paul R on Fri Mar 09, 2001 4:29 am

Lowering Fiesta's has caused me so much trouble in the past!!!<br>Fiesta Si: <br>Spax 30mm Springs- didn't lower the car at all<br>Pi 30mm Springs- didn't lower the car but raised the rear 10mm??<br>Custom 30mm Springs- every corner a different height??<br>Jamex 60mm Springs- slammed the car and handled like a dream but the 17's wouldnt fit<br>Jamex 30mm Springs- lowered 40mm very nice height 17's fit and handled well (at last!!)<br><br>Mates XR2i 16v:<br>Jamex 60mm springs off my Si: slammed the car and it handle like a dream!<br><br>My Fiesta RS Turbo:<br>Avo coilovers- slammed the car 90mm straight off! and handled really really crap adjusted the car up to 70mm still handled crap and still bottoming out! complained to Avo, they agreed to change the springs to lower lbs springs, turns out they had surplied 280lbs springs!! thats harder than a heavy cossie would use (f***ing pricks) then gave me 160lbs springs and the car still handled like crap and bottomed out, so the kit was sold to the closest mugg!!!!!<br>G-Max 60mm springs: straight away handled like a dream and lowered it 60mm without bottoming out on standard Ford Shocks<br><br>GirlFriends RS1800:<br>G-Max 60mm springs- nose dived the front lowered about 80mm and the rear 10mm!!!!<br>Pi 30mm springs- lowered the front but not the rear.<br>Did some research and found out the Si16v and 94on RS1800 have the same suspension despite what the prick at Pi said! and used Pi 30mm springs for a Si16v and it lowered the car 30mm evenly!<br><br>Talk about trail and error!!!!<br><br>Paul R<br><br>[Edited by Paul R (09-03-2001 at 03:29 PM).]
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Postby mikey79 on Fri Mar 09, 2001 5:12 am

Cheers Paul<br><br>I've ordered the spax -35mm springs so we'll see how they go!<br><br>It's just a shame I have to fork out £60+vat each time I swap the springs!!<br><br>I just want to get it sorted out cos the car is great fun to drive! (but it looks stupid at the moment!)
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Postby mec on Fri Mar 09, 2001 8:51 am

ive got full xr2i suspension but my car is a 1.1. as a result the front sits higher due to the lighter engine and my ice in the boot.<br><br>any ideas on how to cure this?<br>or is this a good thing clearance-wise bearing in mind that i want to lower it and fit 15's?<br><br>also is -60mm a good idea?
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Postby Project on Fri Mar 09, 2001 9:36 am

changing from 280lbs springs to 160lbs springs would soften the ride even further! You would need springs rated nearer 380lbs in that case, if not 450lbs.
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Postby mikey79 on Fri Mar 09, 2001 10:44 am

FAO Paul R....<br><br>I phoned PMC after sending them a mechanics report, and they checked the part numbers for what they sent out and apparently they are the correct springs for the car.<br><br>They have however agreed to send out a set of Spax springs and I have to pay the £3 differnece in price AND the labour to get them replaced AND the postage to return the current springs to them!!! <br><br>Nice people. NOT!!!!<br><br>Hopefully the Spax springs will be better on the car. I could have has PI -50mm spring sbut they wanted about £100 for the set!! So I'll stick with the Spax ones.<br><br>
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Postby Paul R on Sat Mar 10, 2001 6:33 am

This was the main problem with the Avo coilovers, the suspension was so hard it was unbearable and didn't handle well at all, You do need some damping but this had none at all! I like a firm ride and i've been in loads of lowered cars but this was just crazy. I've got H&R coilovers on my my Escort Cabriolet which lowered the car 70mm yet the ride and handling is out of this world... just like £500+ suspension kit should be!! I would never ever use a Avo kit again, it was a joke.<br>Think how much its cost everytime I've had to change kits!!!<br>Paul R
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Postby icecool on Sun Mar 11, 2001 12:03 pm

Hey Ade, thats a nasty scrape on your rear bumper but I thought you had a mk4 one.<br><br>[Edited by icecool (11-03-2001 at 11:03 PM).]
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Mar 11, 2001 12:26 pm

I do have a mk4 one but it's not on the car. That's the original one and the scrapes are where it's been sanded down. You can see the filler where the green stripe in the bumper was. The number plate resides in there now as well. <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>Adrian.
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Postby Project on Mon Mar 12, 2001 9:01 am

You ol' smoothie, Ade!
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Postby Andrew Malcolm on Mon Mar 12, 2001 10:27 am

Mk4 Bumpers look pants on mk3's if you as me <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/smile.gif"> and make the rear end of the car look like it is stuck up in the air <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/frown.gif"><br><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.v8fiesta.co.uk/ubb/smilies/smile.gif"><br><br>
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