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changed plans, please help if you can
basically the clutch on my car has gone and the engine is pretty poo, so i have decided that i want to try and do a 2.0 zetec conversion, at the moment it is a 1.3 petrol, i know the block and head would need to come out of a mondeo and some other bits too so id like a list if someone could do one for me, thanks
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ghost purchased the engine from me, i stripped off all the crap he didnt need so he's in the process of dropping it in.
i decided not to take this en route as my car was rusting badly and a few advisorys about this cropped up on the MOT i had, so i scrapped the car.
ghost purchased the engine from me, i stripped off all the crap he didnt need so he's in the process of dropping it in.
i decided not to take this en route as my car was rusting badly and a few advisorys about this cropped up on the MOT i had, so i scrapped the car.
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right ive decided that i now want to 2.0 zetec it, anyone no of what parts i would need, id like to do the conversion in the next couple of weeks as i have 2 weeks off work, if anyone has any bits that would be of any use to me please let me know, i dont have a clue what i would need, thanks
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cheers for that, would i need all those bits off of a mondeo? or could i use any bits off of any si? i say this as i know a friend who is breaking an si, also my car has not got power steering, could i get this off of the si if it has it and then fit it?
am i right in thinking i could use these bits from an si:
engine bay loom
fuel tank
fuel pump
fuel lines
gearbox
ecu? not sure would have thought id have to use a 2.0 one
engine mount
exhaust?
radiator
water pipes
air pipes
clutch and fly wheel?
water pump?
exhaust manifold?
alternator bracket
powr steering pump
again if anyone could help it would be much appreciated
am i right in thinking i could use these bits from an si:
engine bay loom
fuel tank
fuel pump
fuel lines
gearbox
ecu? not sure would have thought id have to use a 2.0 one
engine mount
exhaust?
radiator
water pipes
air pipes
clutch and fly wheel?
water pump?
exhaust manifold?
alternator bracket
powr steering pump
again if anyone could help it would be much appreciated
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Pretty much. If you go for PAS, then you'll want the rack too. ECU, you ideally need a 2.0 Mondeo one as the 1.6 one will run rubbish. If you don't go for PAS, you'll need an alternator bracket from a non-PAS 16v (i.e. an XR2i 16v or early RS1800). You may need the alternator too, I'm not sure if it's different.
Personally, if you know someone breaking an Si, I'd buy the car from him as it'll make life easier. You can transfer just about everything over that way.
As well as those things you've listed, you'll also need the sump, oil pick up, dip stick and tube... Probably some other random things. If yours is CFi, then you can probably get away with your tank and lines, but you'll need an EFi pump ideally. I'm not sure if your return line is small line the carb'd HCSs, or whether it's the same size as the EFi ones?
If yours is CFi, you should be able to use your current car loom, but I'd still get the Si one anyway.
You'll also want stuff like the ARB if you don't have it already, and definitely the lower crossmember/support as the 16v cat hangs from this.
From the Mondeo, you only need the engine, ECU and MAF sensor. Inlet manifold you'll need the Si one at least to get you running, or a larger 1.8 XR2i or RS1800 one. I think the injectors are bigger on the 2.0, but not certain.
Like I say though, get the Si or get every last bit from it.
Personally, if you know someone breaking an Si, I'd buy the car from him as it'll make life easier. You can transfer just about everything over that way.
As well as those things you've listed, you'll also need the sump, oil pick up, dip stick and tube... Probably some other random things. If yours is CFi, then you can probably get away with your tank and lines, but you'll need an EFi pump ideally. I'm not sure if your return line is small line the carb'd HCSs, or whether it's the same size as the EFi ones?
If yours is CFi, you should be able to use your current car loom, but I'd still get the Si one anyway.
You'll also want stuff like the ARB if you don't have it already, and definitely the lower crossmember/support as the 16v cat hangs from this.
From the Mondeo, you only need the engine, ECU and MAF sensor. Inlet manifold you'll need the Si one at least to get you running, or a larger 1.8 XR2i or RS1800 one. I think the injectors are bigger on the 2.0, but not certain.
Like I say though, get the Si or get every last bit from it.
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Will also be worth changing the enitre rear beam for the Si one as you get the rear arb and the larger brakes come with it.
Will also need the Si front brakes.
If yours is the CFI them the engine loom will just plug straight in, if not; then your in for some fun rewiring!
What Smo says about the alternator braket is true if you don't use PAS, but you can get around it with a different length belt, not sure what length it is but there is a post of mine somewhere detailing which one to use so you can still use the PAS alternator braket.
Fuel lines will be ok as long as your car is CFI, and you must run the Si fuel pump as it will run the 2.0 too lean.
Will also need the Si front brakes.
If yours is the CFI them the engine loom will just plug straight in, if not; then your in for some fun rewiring!
What Smo says about the alternator braket is true if you don't use PAS, but you can get around it with a different length belt, not sure what length it is but there is a post of mine somewhere detailing which one to use so you can still use the PAS alternator braket.
Fuel lines will be ok as long as your car is CFI, and you must run the Si fuel pump as it will run the 2.0 too lean.
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ollybee :... and you must run the Si fuel pump as it will run the 2.0 too lean.
That's not quite right:) I run my 1.8 ZT @ 7psi boost (and good 12:1 AFR) with 1.4 CFI fuel pump without problem
(I got new high flow fuel pump but need to drop the tank to swap it, I'm too lazy )
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disc :ollybee :... and you must run the Si fuel pump as it will run the 2.0 too lean.
That's not quite right:) I run my 1.8 ZT @ 7psi boost (and good 12:1 AFR) with 1.4 CFI fuel pump without problem
(I got new high flow fuel pump but need to drop the tank to swap it, I'm too lazy )
Oh, I don't have any experienceof CFI pumps, I was just advised to do it when I did my conversion. I was told that the CFI pump would run upto 1600 zetec. Seems as though I went through the whole tank swopping experience for nowt.
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Re: changed plans, please help if you can
sorry for bringing up an old thread.. but is this 100% true of the cfi lines tank and pump.. also are the connectors in the engine bay the same pushfit type?
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Re: changed plans, please help if you can
JayC :sorry for bringing up an old thread.. but is this 100% true of the cfi lines tank and pump.. also are the connectors in the engine bay the same pushfit type?
I swapped the pump so I don't know from experience but for the rest of your questions the answer is yes.
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