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[cookie456_the2nd]

Hi, i bought a Clifford Concept 100 of a mate that had it in his clio mk1. Took it all out and labelled it up.

Wired it all in, apart from the immobiliser, (not enought time to do it today)

All working but cant get the central locking working. Got two wires for it.

Now im not to sure how it works on the clio, but both wires where join together and it went into a wire on some little button. When you pressed the button it locked/unlocked the car.

But what wires do i connect it to on the fezzy. I looked at the wiring diagram for it all and looks like they connect to the white and yellow wires but im not getting any joy with it!

Any help appreciated.


James

[Priezti]

on the clifford 100 if i remeber right its wired so that it pulses pos on wire wire and neg on the other when its locked and switches the other way on unlock, so will need two 5 pin 12v relays to convert it to pulse a neg (which the fiesta locking operates on) if you want a crack let me know ill sort you a diagram out

[cookie456_the2nd]

Hey, i wired in all the immobiliser etc and had a look through the programming. You can separately set the central locking to pos or neg. I set it too neg. but still no go.

Maybe im missing something? Is it the white and yellow wires i need to connect too?

EDIT: had a little play and i see what you need about it switching,
If you could do a quick diagram then thatd be great mate. Exactly what relay do i need and where can i get one?

These are the installer programming options, what settings do i want?

[MikeyB@SoundSecure]

You need to relay the outputs from the clifford as its only a 500milli amp output and not strong enough th power the locking. The ford locking for your car should be high current neg pulse to lock and the same to unlock, the colours you have are correct and are in the drivers kickwell, check with a test light or multi meter to find the exact two wires and make sure they are neg pulse because on some years they change to positive. On the relay for neg locking pulse wire pin 85 to 12v pos, pin 86 to the central locking out put from the alarm which will be a grey/green wire for lock, pin 87 to negative, pin 30 to the lock wire. The second relay is wired the same but the grey/orange wire from the alarm to pin 86 and pin 30 to the unlock. Hope this helps.

[Priezti]

You need to relay the outputs from the clifford as its only a 500milli amp output and not strong enough th power the locking. The ford locking for your car should be high current neg pulse to lock and the same to unlock, the colours you have are correct and are in the drivers kickwell, check with a test light or multi meter to find the exact two wires and make sure they are neg pulse because on some years they change to positive. On the relay for neg locking pulse wire pin 85 to 12v pos, pin 86 to the central locking out put from the alarm which will be a grey/green wire for lock, pin 87 to negative, pin 30 to the lock wire. The second relay is wired the same but the grey/orange wire from the alarm to pin 86 and pin 30 to the unlock. Hope this helps.

glad some one saved me from typing it

[MikeyB@SoundSecure]

Lol i know talk about long winded!

[Priezti]

joy of cliffford, although on the 650 mk2 they have finally added 6 wire locking

[MikeyB@SoundSecure]

I know its a god send, saves so much time and makes things neater.

[Priezti]

saves on relays and lucar's too

[cookie456_the2nd]

That kind of makes sense! But doesn't the polarity swap round or something?

Mikey if i do as you say wont it just 'apmlify' the the power as such to power the central locking; which it seems to be able to do any way?

If i connect the wires up to lock and unlock at the mo it just constantly locks then unlocks then repeats.

Found this on the internet to do with the concept 300, same principle i would of thought? :



Where do i get the relays from and what ones exactly are they?

[Rhinopower]

im down the other end of the highstreet, i'l pop round and supply and do the bits for you for a small fee if you want?

[MikeyB@SoundSecure]

Yeah you are more or less amplifing the the output but you have to because the outputs are to weak to drive the motor and will blow the IC outputs, the relay diagrame you have shown is for a normal CDL motor but on the ford they work differently.

[cookie456_the2nd]

Ok, your the experts so il go with what you say!

Rhinopower, il PM you. Just need to get the engine sorted first as it would be a little difficult to work with it while its on axle stands! Especially where it is at the mo, right up next to my garage!

[Priezti]

Yeah you are more or less amplifing the the output but you have to because the outputs are to weak to drive the motor and will blow the IC outputs, the relay diagrame you have shown is for a normal CDL motor but on the ford they work differently.

bit odd having someone else that knows what they are on about hehe

[cookie456_the2nd]

You need to relay the outputs from the clifford as its only a 500milli amp output and not strong enough th power the locking. The ford locking for your car should be high current neg pulse to lock and the same to unlock, the colours you have are correct and are in the drivers kickwell, check with a test light or multi meter to find the exact two wires and make sure they are neg pulse because on some years they change to positive. On the relay for neg locking pulse wire pin 85 to 12v pos, pin 86 to the central locking out put from the alarm which will be a grey/green wire for lock, pin 87 to negative, pin 30 to the lock wire. The second relay is wired the same but the grey/orange wire from the alarm to pin 86 and pin 30 to the unlock. Hope this helps.

glad some one saved me from typing it

If i do that it just constantly locks... unlocks... locks..., unlocks etc...

Someone must know!!!! Please help alarm fitters, its not like im asking how to get round a immobiliser, just how to wire up central locking.



James

EDIT: I think its fubared... When set to negative locking, its constantly grounding, both lock and unlock.

Then when i set it too positive, both lock and unlock wires pulse. Hhhmmm, fubared, gnna try and integrate a sparkrite central locking interface into it as has one trigger wire for lock and unlock....

[MikeyB@SoundSecure]

How did you wire it up? Did you do it the way i said or the diagram above??

[cookie456_the2nd]

As you said mate.

To be honest i think the alarm is fubared.

Il just have to stop being a tight git and get a new alarm!