Conversion help
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Conversion help
Hi ,
I have got a 1.4 carb (not si)
This engine in the car
And i have got a
RS1800 Engine, gearbox, Loom, ECU, and MAF
Is there anything else i need for the conversion?
Getting uprated brakes and handling setup.
Any help would be much appreciated
I have got a 1.4 carb (not si)
This engine in the car
And i have got a
RS1800 Engine, gearbox, Loom, ECU, and MAF
Is there anything else i need for the conversion?
Getting uprated brakes and handling setup.
Any help would be much appreciated
- richlal
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Fuel tank, fuel pump and car loom, perhaps fuels lines seeing as it's carb version.
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didnt say EFI chap, i said CFI.
CFI is centre point injection, it looks like a carb but has one big injector in the middle at the top.
take ya air box off and take a picture of the "carb" and ill tell yuo if its CFI or not
CFI is centre point injection, it looks like a carb but has one big injector in the middle at the top.
take ya air box off and take a picture of the "carb" and ill tell yuo if its CFI or not
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nope.its definatly the CVH
looked through all my paper work it says 1.4 freestyle CVH alot .
no sign of CFI.
how hard is this conversion going to be.
would it be easier with something like a XR2 mk2 engine. that is CVH.
what parts woud be needed for that?
looked through all my paper work it says 1.4 freestyle CVH alot .
no sign of CFI.
how hard is this conversion going to be.
would it be easier with something like a XR2 mk2 engine. that is CVH.
what parts woud be needed for that?
- richlal
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cfi is a type of fuel delivery. it has no bearing on the name of the engine.
observe:
cfi
efi
carburettors
are all types of fuel delivery
cvh
hcs
zetec
pinto
crossflow
cologne
duratec
are engine types.
observe:
cfi
efi
carburettors
are all types of fuel delivery
cvh
hcs
zetec
pinto
crossflow
cologne
duratec
are engine types.
- edders
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was gunna say, its not the engine
CFI, centre fuel injection
EFI electronic fuel injection
as i said, take the air filter cover off and get a picture and i will tell yuo what ya got
CFI, centre fuel injection
EFI electronic fuel injection
as i said, take the air filter cover off and get a picture and i will tell yuo what ya got
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The CFI units were made by Weber as well however you have pictured a carb model so your conversion is going to be a little harder.
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as above, thats a twin choke carb so yeah, its gunna be harder.
your need a fuel tank and pump fromm a injection, pref a 2i or rs, well the tank can be any injection tank but the pumpwill need to be upto the job you want it for.
you need fuel lines too
loom wise, im unsure if the carb models have the plug thats ment to be for a engine loom to plug into, now knowing ford it might have it as its cheaper to make 1 loom to fit many models rather than a loom for just carb engined cars, but then again, who knows, so yuo might even need to change the car loom, but although a pain, its easy to do and they can be got for fairly cheap money
your need a fuel tank and pump fromm a injection, pref a 2i or rs, well the tank can be any injection tank but the pumpwill need to be upto the job you want it for.
you need fuel lines too
loom wise, im unsure if the carb models have the plug thats ment to be for a engine loom to plug into, now knowing ford it might have it as its cheaper to make 1 loom to fit many models rather than a loom for just carb engined cars, but then again, who knows, so yuo might even need to change the car loom, but although a pain, its easy to do and they can be got for fairly cheap money
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ok cool.
so what are all the parts i will need.
worst comes to worst.
engine.
gearbox
engine loom
ecu
maf
fueltank
fuel pump
fuel lines
anything else
i wont have to change the engine mounts will i?
is there just a faster cvh carb engine i can fit in like. straight swap?
so what are all the parts i will need.
worst comes to worst.
engine.
gearbox
engine loom
ecu
maf
fueltank
fuel pump
fuel lines
anything else
i wont have to change the engine mounts will i?
is there just a faster cvh carb engine i can fit in like. straight swap?
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well you could try and source a 1.6s engine. as i understand it it was the last run of the engines for the mk2 XR2's so itd be okay and pretty much a straight swap. or failing that get any 1.6 and a set of webers (is it one b or 2?)
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richlal :ok cool.
so what are all the parts i will need.
worst comes to worst.
engine.
gearbox
engine loom
ecu
maf
fueltank
fuel pump
fuel lines
anything else
i wont have to change the engine mounts will i?
is there just a faster cvh carb engine i can fit in like. straight swap?
your need to uprate the brakes dont forget.
your also need to poss mod a engine mount to fit also.
as you have a carb, check to see if you have a plug blanked off half way along the bulk head plate (behind carb) if you got this plug you can plug a engine loom inot it, if you dont, your need to change the car loom to one that has, or run new wires etc, which might be easier, get to scrappy, find the plug, trace wires back making a now of where they go and cutting them out and taking relays etc, but really, if you can get a car loom, use that
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Try and see if you can get the rest of the car that you got the bits from.
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yeah the a xr2 engine will go in, its only a 1600 cvh, and is carbed.
but tbh, for what power it will give you know you got to ask your self if it is really worth it.....
when new they gave it something like 96bhp, with miles on one and the way they would prob of been abused, you can drop 20 horses off of that, so you really want to go to the hassle of fitting a 1600 cvh engine thats gunna give ya 80bhp, not worth it mate.
its not as hard as you think doing the conversion to the engine you want to put in.
most bits can be got from a scrappy or off here, fuel tanks that have a intank pump can be got of any fiesta, fuel lines from any big cc injection fiesta and the rest could be from what every really.
sit down and think about what ya want to do, and what ya want, make a note of what bits your gunna need and price it up, worse case buy a smashed up frst or something and rob everything from that
but tbh, for what power it will give you know you got to ask your self if it is really worth it.....
when new they gave it something like 96bhp, with miles on one and the way they would prob of been abused, you can drop 20 horses off of that, so you really want to go to the hassle of fitting a 1600 cvh engine thats gunna give ya 80bhp, not worth it mate.
its not as hard as you think doing the conversion to the engine you want to put in.
most bits can be got from a scrappy or off here, fuel tanks that have a intank pump can be got of any fiesta, fuel lines from any big cc injection fiesta and the rest could be from what every really.
sit down and think about what ya want to do, and what ya want, make a note of what bits your gunna need and price it up, worse case buy a smashed up frst or something and rob everything from that
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yeah not really worth the hassle.
just buy a rust bucket car and nab the bits, its hard to find a decent engine for low price though.
would it be worth rebuilding it once getting one. say if it had covered 100k
just buy a rust bucket car and nab the bits, its hard to find a decent engine for low price though.
would it be worth rebuilding it once getting one. say if it had covered 100k
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