Conversion help

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

Conversion help

Postby richlal on Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:51 am

Hi ,

I have got a 1.4 carb (not si)
This engine in the car

And i have got a
RS1800 Engine, gearbox, Loom, ECU, and MAF

Is there anything else i need for the conversion?

Getting uprated brakes and handling setup.

Any help would be much appreciated
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Postby Ollybee on Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:53 am

Fuel tank, fuel pump and car loom, perhaps fuels lines seeing as it's carb version.
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Postby jayrs on Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:47 pm

you sure its not CFI?
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Postby richlal on Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:28 pm

ok. umm dont know.
its 1.4 freestyle.
not the EFI engine.
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Postby jayrs on Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:33 pm

didnt say EFI chap, i said CFI.

CFI is centre point injection, it looks like a carb but has one big injector in the middle at the top.
take ya air box off and take a picture of the "carb" and ill tell yuo if its CFI or not
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Postby richlal on Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:17 pm

nope.its definatly the CVH
looked through all my paper work it says 1.4 freestyle CVH alot .
no sign of CFI.

how hard is this conversion going to be.

would it be easier with something like a XR2 mk2 engine. that is CVH.
what parts woud be needed for that?
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Postby edders on Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:27 pm

cfi is a type of fuel delivery. it has no bearing on the name of the engine.
observe:

cfi
efi
carburettors
are all types of fuel delivery

cvh
hcs
zetec
pinto
crossflow
cologne
duratec
are engine types.
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Postby jayrs on Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:46 pm

was gunna say, its not the engine :lol: :lol:

CFI, centre fuel injection
EFI electronic fuel injection

as i said, take the air filter cover off and get a picture and i will tell yuo what ya got
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Postby richlal on Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm

ahhh.. isee.
will have the picture up tongiht. thanks for the help guys .
good to learn new stuff
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Postby jayrs on Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:29 pm

TBH its gunna be more than likly a CFI, but get a pic just to confirm
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Postby richlal on Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:13 pm

right,
heres a few pictures.
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my friend said it is carburettor because it said webber on the carb.
ha but i havent got a clue
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Postby Ollybee on Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:12 pm

The CFI units were made by Weber as well however you have pictured a carb model so your conversion is going to be a little harder.
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Postby jayrs on Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:52 pm

as above, thats a twin choke carb so yeah, its gunna be harder.

your need a fuel tank and pump fromm a injection, pref a 2i or rs, well the tank can be any injection tank but the pumpwill need to be upto the job you want it for.
you need fuel lines too

loom wise, im unsure if the carb models have the plug thats ment to be for a engine loom to plug into, now knowing ford it might have it as its cheaper to make 1 loom to fit many models rather than a loom for just carb engined cars, but then again, who knows, so yuo might even need to change the car loom, but although a pain, its easy to do and they can be got for fairly cheap money
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Postby richlal on Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:28 pm

ok cool.
so what are all the parts i will need.
worst comes to worst.

engine.
gearbox
engine loom
ecu
maf
fueltank
fuel pump
fuel lines

anything else

i wont have to change the engine mounts will i?

is there just a faster cvh carb engine i can fit in like. straight swap?
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Postby edders on Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:35 pm

well you could try and source a 1.6s engine. as i understand it it was the last run of the engines for the mk2 XR2's so itd be okay and pretty much a straight swap. or failing that get any 1.6 and a set of webers (is it one b or 2?)
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Postby jayrs on Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:42 pm

richlal :ok cool.
so what are all the parts i will need.
worst comes to worst.

engine.
gearbox
engine loom
ecu
maf
fueltank
fuel pump
fuel lines

anything else

i wont have to change the engine mounts will i?

is there just a faster cvh carb engine i can fit in like. straight swap?


your need to uprate the brakes dont forget.
your also need to poss mod a engine mount to fit also.

as you have a carb, check to see if you have a plug blanked off half way along the bulk head plate (behind carb) if you got this plug you can plug a engine loom inot it, if you dont, your need to change the car loom to one that has, or run new wires etc, which might be easier, get to scrappy, find the plug, trace wires back making a now of where they go and cutting them out and taking relays etc, but really, if you can get a car loom, use that
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Postby Ollybee on Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:00 pm

Try and see if you can get the rest of the car that you got the bits from.
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Postby richlal on Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:27 pm

yer sounds complicated, but will try and scrounge the parts.
thanks guys
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Postby richlal on Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:37 pm

i have no plug . only a little pluf on the right hand side.
would a 1.6 xr2 engine fit in?
what is the spec on these engines. is it worth the bother?
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Postby jayrs on Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:08 pm

yeah the a xr2 engine will go in, its only a 1600 cvh, and is carbed.
but tbh, for what power it will give you know you got to ask your self if it is really worth it.....
when new they gave it something like 96bhp, with miles on one and the way they would prob of been abused, you can drop 20 horses off of that, so you really want to go to the hassle of fitting a 1600 cvh engine thats gunna give ya 80bhp, not worth it mate.

its not as hard as you think doing the conversion to the engine you want to put in.
most bits can be got from a scrappy or off here, fuel tanks that have a intank pump can be got of any fiesta, fuel lines from any big cc injection fiesta and the rest could be from what every really.
sit down and think about what ya want to do, and what ya want, make a note of what bits your gunna need and price it up, worse case buy a smashed up frst or something and rob everything from that
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Postby richlal on Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:15 am

yeah not really worth the hassle.
just buy a rust bucket car and nab the bits, its hard to find a decent engine for low price though.

would it be worth rebuilding it once getting one. say if it had covered 100k
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Postby edders on Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:59 pm

itd be worth rebuilding one regardless of mileage. purely so you dont have to pull it out sooner to rebuild it again. or at least i would.
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