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do rs1800i's have a LSD?

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do rs1800i's have a LSD?

Postby essexrsturbo on Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:22 pm

just heard they did but wasnt sure

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Postby MattPym on Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:34 pm

Nope, Pretty certain they dont..... Atleast mine doesnt :(
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Postby Oranoco on Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:55 pm

Nope.

Only FWD Fords to have LSD's were the S1 & 2 Escort RS Turbos and the Focus RS
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Postby wildheart on Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:28 pm

Its worth fitting an rst box though,I fiited an RS1600i box with rst lsd in mine and its made a big difference!
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Postby RS1800666 on Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:33 am

Hi just wondering how this is done (S1 2 gearbox in a RS1800) and wha are the differences
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Postby Ollybee on Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:51 am

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Postby Big Walker on Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:22 am

And still retaining the standard fiesta driveshafts ?
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Postby Ollybee on Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:33 am

Yep.
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Postby Oranoco on Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:53 am

The S1 box has slightly lower ratio 5th gear and the LSD is a bit more aggresive in use than the S2 item
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Postby Big Walker on Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:03 pm

So an S2 gearbag on a 2.0 Fiesta would shift well ;)

Guestimated to end ?? 130 ish ?
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Postby Oranoco on Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:13 pm

Depends on your wheel and tyre size as well as this also affects the gearing and your top speed.

I would think you wouldn't be far off a real 130mph with a 2litre Zetec under the bonnet.
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Postby Laner on Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:43 am

I've heard rumors about using diesel box?

Surely this is just going to be stronger and your not likely to gain any extra speed or accelration due to the nature of a diesel car?
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Postby edders on Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:21 am

the diesel boxes arent necessarily any stronger as they didnt exactly have to cope with massive amounts of power and torque. but you will get higher top speed but loose acceleration because the nature of a diesel engine is different. higher torque but fewer revs

also slightly off topic but is £500 a good price for a brand new lsd unit?
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Postby Oranoco on Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:09 pm

Laner :I've heard rumors about using diesel box?

Surely this is just going to be stronger and your not likely to gain any extra speed or accelration due to the nature of a diesel car?


The diesel box being stronger myth has been around years. It's complete cobblers and is no tougher than any other BC/IB5 box. The ratios are wholly unsuitable for most applications as although the gearing is taller you also need the torque to pull the car through the gears and often end up with a slower car overall as the gearing doesn't match the torque curve.
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Postby Ollybee on Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:25 pm

Oranoco :
Laner :I've heard rumors about using diesel box?

Surely this is just going to be stronger and your not likely to gain any extra speed or accelration due to the nature of a diesel car?


The diesel box being stronger myth has been around years. It's complete cobblers and is no tougher than any other BC/IB5 box. The ratios are wholly unsuitable for most applications as although the gearing is taller you also need the torque to pull the car through the gears and often end up with a slower car overall as the gearing doesn't match the torque curve.


I disagree there, perhaps so in most applications but on the 2.0l it seems to work well. You do sacrifice a small amount of acceleration but if you are largely doing long journeys it's a good box.
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Postby Oranoco on Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:22 pm

The 2.0 certainly does'nt have the torque to pull through the diesel box. They make less torque than a stock FRST and I know my non stock FRST would be killed with a diesel box and that has substantially more than a stock FRST.

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Postby Ollybee on Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:15 pm

I 111% stand by mine! :Q

Works well on the one I did for a mate. There's a few members on here that are running that setup, VUK for example and no complaints there. It's a pointless discussion anyway as this thread was originally about LSD's.
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Postby Oranoco on Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:38 pm

Agreed. You will not get me to change my mind as I've timed a car before during and after a diesel box swap and it was slower across every discipline. Might even still have the test data somewhere as well if we didn't bin it during the house moves
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Postby Ram on Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:04 pm

i run an S1 box in mine. and i reckon a diesel box would be poo unless your going for top speeds
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