Engine Modification. How to get the best out of my si?
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Engine Modification. How to get the best out of my si?
Right i have a 1.6 si and its done about 95k. I want to ad a induction kit, silicone hose and maybe cams and other bits to give it that little bit more.
Now as its done 95k is it wise to change the pistons and some other parts what wear so the extra speed wont damage the engine?
Basicly whats the best way to tune my 1.6 si engine?
Matty
Now as its done 95k is it wise to change the pistons and some other parts what wear so the extra speed wont damage the engine?
Basicly whats the best way to tune my 1.6 si engine?
Matty
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yes that is a option but as its my first car insurance wont alow it.
I dont want to spend loads on it, just wnat it to run better and have more poke/go
I dont want to spend loads on it, just wnat it to run better and have more poke/go
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McGoo 69 :yes that is a option but as its my first car insurance wont alow it.
I dont want to spend loads on it, just wnat it to run better and have more poke/go
will probably work out cheaper to chuck a 2l in it than tune your 1.6, especially as your planning on stripping internals....
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McGoo 69 :yes that is a option but as its my first car insurance wont alow it.
Then wait until it is allowed. Spending money on the 1.6 is pointless.
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i apologise for the weridos
Get the 1.8 throttel boddy its a straight swap meanign better air flow
exhaust a gd place but can be deer as can cams but try a gd cat back one
Then next spark leads from magnecor and spark plugs
then gd oil and try running v power all the time
http://www.potn.com have good induction kits
and anything esl try my blog on genral discusion titlled my new si 1.6 where to start
Get the 1.8 throttel boddy its a straight swap meanign better air flow
exhaust a gd place but can be deer as can cams but try a gd cat back one
Then next spark leads from magnecor and spark plugs
then gd oil and try running v power all the time
http://www.potn.com have good induction kits
and anything esl try my blog on genral discusion titlled my new si 1.6 where to start
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how much performae will that gain
i think most of that wil be used in correcting the mixture flowed by the throttle body,
will be quite resonsve and sound well good tho.
just so you know and im ready to be corrected but the weakness of the 1.6 si is in the cylinder head and its valves and work on sortin this is £500 + apparently
i think most of that wil be used in correcting the mixture flowed by the throttle body,
will be quite resonsve and sound well good tho.
just so you know and im ready to be corrected but the weakness of the 1.6 si is in the cylinder head and its valves and work on sortin this is £500 + apparently
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seems pointless doing anything to the 1.6 mate, to be honest the power gains you will get and the money you will spend will be just not worth it, phone around and see if anyone will insure you if you do the 2.0 conversion, its well worth it and a lot more power is available, thats why you see so many si owners doing it
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I ahve the 1.1 hcs i spent about 1k on it and you notic a massive difference you guys its all about the cubic capasity not the fact you wanna stick to a 1.6 or a small engine and have some fun with that no has to be a 2.0 zetec or mondeo lump with a turbo and a set of rs turbo rims a copy c at rs turbo body kit and arches 17" mondeo rim or 7 spoke cossy ones and a big set of brakes lower it too far and thne crash when a polo hits you I hate people who always go on about having a huge engine enjoy the 1.6 mate and if you wnanna talk sense about mod email me redsparrow2k@hotmail.com as im doing up my si next month so i can advise when i do mine and vise versa
2.0 litre lovers i agree more power less cash more fun but end of the day buy an evo 8 - x the fq 320 thats more power for under 30k and AWD SAYC fiesta turbo all about the turbo why not try supercharging you hadges
2.0 litre lovers i agree more power less cash more fun but end of the day buy an evo 8 - x the fq 320 thats more power for under 30k and AWD SAYC fiesta turbo all about the turbo why not try supercharging you hadges
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i had a made who spent £700 on his 1.6 si and it was still only as fast as my 1.25, and he would admit to that as well, he spent £800 on purchasing and fitting a 2.0 and it goes like s**t off a shovel.
best thing was his insurance hardly changed.
best thing was his insurance hardly changed.
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HCS PIMP :i apologise for the weridos
Get the 1.8 throttel boddy its a straight swap meanign better air flow
exhaust a gd place but can be deer as can cams but try a gd cat back one
Then next spark leads from magnecor and spark plugs
then gd oil and try running v power all the time
http://www.potn.com have good induction kits
and anything esl try my blog on genral discusion titlled my new si 1.6 where to start
What do you mean by "i apologise for the weridos" ?
If you're suggesting that the posters above are weirdos (or weridos as you have typed it) for recommending going the 2.0 route, I'm guessing you haven't driven a 2.0 Fiesta, have you?...
The 1.6 head is seriously restrictive and will never make any power that's worth the money spent on it.
And how can you compare an Evo to a Fiesta? Do you actually know how little money needs to be spent on an Si to make it a 2.0? I know people who have done it for less than £100. Try doing the mods you suggested on the 1.6 for less than that Most of any gain you notice will be purely from effectively replacing service-items... Leads, plugs, oil, air filter, etc are usually all over-looked on a car like an Si and so are normally holding the car back a little.
Also, which 1.8 throttle body are you recommending? You know there are two different sizes, don't you? And may be another, depending on what the 115PS version uses (although I believe it's the same size as the 105PS version - which, in all honesty, I can't believe is actually much larger, if at all, than a 1.6 one).
Buying a brand new cat-back system will almost definitely cost more than a nice low mileage sensibly-priced 2.0 series 1 or 2 engine. I know which I'd rather do
I think you should take a 2.0 MK3 out for a little test drive... I have a feeling you'll be shocked at how slow it will make your 1.6 feel, even with those mods, and for such less money. Oh, and then you might actually have a chance with a smaller-engined A8 (from another post of yours), which is actually being driven hard
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thanks for that peeps. Think ill just get a new exhaust system for it and a induction and leave it a few months then drop a 2.0 in it.
Or maybe even a cossi lol
Thanks For the info it does seam pointless modding my 1.6 when i can drop a 2.0 in it
matty
Or maybe even a cossi lol
Thanks For the info it does seam pointless modding my 1.6 when i can drop a 2.0 in it
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Anothger point that many people haven't picked up on is the simple fact that the 1.6 Zetec engine as found in the Si does not respond well to tuning.
Bung an induction kit on and a back box and then leave it well alone until you can afford to do an engine swap or change the car.
Bung an induction kit on and a back box and then leave it well alone until you can afford to do an engine swap or change the car.
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HCS PIMP Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject:
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i apologise for the weridos
Get the 1.8 throttel boddy its a straight swap meanign better air flow
exhaust a gd place but can be deer as can cams but try a gd cat back one
Then next spark leads from magnecor and spark plugs
then gd oil and try running v power all the time
http://www.potn.com have good induction kits
and anything esl try my blog on genral discusion titlled my new si 1.6 where to start
Gota be joking?? 2.0 is the only real way forward if you have an Si and want half decent power.
As for going forward with your car, personally I would stick with the 1.6 for now and leave the engine - get it looking and handling how you want it
Let be honest, when I (and most on here) first passed my test I had a slugish 1.3 HCS (Si Rep) and would have dreamed of an Si, so your damn lucky!!
I waited a year till I was 18 and bought a Turbo, well worth the wait
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As orancooco said! If he hasn't been driving to long just get good behind the wheel first then go for power don't spend to much on your first car save up for the 2.0 or frstOranoco :Anothger point that many people haven't picked up on is the simple fact that the 1.6 Zetec engine as found in the Si does not respond well to tuning.
Bung an induction kit on and a back box and then leave it well alone until you can afford to do an engine swap or change the car.
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HCS PIMP :i apologise for the weridos
Get the 1.8 throttel boddy its a straight swap meanign better air flow
exhaust a gd place but can be deer as can cams but try a gd cat back one
Then next spark leads from magnecor and spark plugs
then gd oil and try running v power all the time
http://www.potn.com have good induction kits
and anything esl try my blog on genral discusion titlled my new si 1.6 where to start
with all them mods, you might be able to aqueeze 95bhp
that post made me laugh so much
just do minimal mods to the 1.6, things that can be kept when 2.0 is put in. a heavily modified 1.6 would probably cost more to insure than a 2.0 converted one aswell
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