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[BeemanFRST]

Went to the scrappie the other day, an i seen a escort with a 1.6 engine(a white 5 door 1989 or 90), which looked every like the xr2 engine.The scrappie told me he would give it to me for dead cheap(the car that is:lol: ) .my question is is their much difference in the engines.
What power am i lookin with this engine, id do it up good, power flow, pipercross, new cam, new sparks, and the hole nine yards.
Well hope some one is able to help!!!

[Project]

Sounds like a Mk4 1.6L or LX carburetted engine. They're identical in almost every way. Differences lie in the cooling pipes, radiator, alternator mounts, air filter box (no prob if you are fitting a K&N), possibly a different carburettor, and a different gearbox mounting system, although your existing HCS one swaps straight over, as does starter motor and, I think, your alternator mounts. As for the cooling systems, you can keep you HCS radiator and change hoses, but the designs are different and the CVH really benefits from the right radiator which can be found on any CVH or Zetec Mk3, and possibly Mk4 and 5 versions too.

Al

[Project]

BTW contact the DVLA and make sure it's not a 1.4CVH!

[snake]

Or see if the block has 1.6 written on it..

[BeemanFRST]

Cheers a lot guys, in sure its a 1.6. I seen it on the tax disc.
Any thing else to add, do ye rekon it would be a lot different in power in comparision to the 1.3hcs

[Project]

As long as you take the gearbox, too (which will have shorter rations than an XR2 box) yes, it'll seem to rev forever

[xrsi]

I have an escort engine in my fiesta, was a 1.1
I had to swap the alternator and bracket and the radiator + hoses!

Best bit was that the engine was edis (no dis) so plugged straight in brilliant!!!!

[BeemanFRST]

edis (no dis) , what is this.
xrsi was your engine a hcs 1.1.
What kind of proformance stuff can you get for this engine?

[fiesta boy]

crap throw in the cvh

[BeemanFRST]

not very easy to come by over here m8

[fiesta boy]

ANY 1.6 CVH WILL DO

[BeemanFRST]

is the escort engine not a cvh

[fiesta boy]

IF IT A MK3/4/5 1.6 THEN YES

[BeemanFRST]

Then what the hell are you on about, read the posts.

[fiesta boy]

WELL READ MINE THEN THROW THE CVH IN IF U GOT IT PUT IT IN

[xrsi]

Mine was indeed a 1.1 hsc!

The edsi is the coil on the side of the engine that has the spark leads connected to, it forms an electronic spark with out the need for a conventional distributor (no rotor or points!) it also dosnt require a coil to boost the power of the spark!

If the escort engine has this then it is just a case of unplug all of the leads to your hsc engine and then plug them back to the same conectors on the new engine!

Tuning, from what i believe all the xr2 tuning parts (such as cam..) fit it, and a full xr2i exhaust can be put on if you change the manifault to an xr2i one!

[BeemanFRST]

Does this engine have a choke like mine, are the accelerator cables near enough the same, do i need to take the escort engine mounts, im nearly sure it was a escort 1.6.
Cause when i asked the scrapie "do you have any xr2 engines around" he replyed " there is a 1.6 in that escort down there"
oh ill need the down pipe wont i.
Sorry but i want there to be as less hastle as possible, when im puttin it in.

[xrsi]

Right this is what i had to change on the engine to fit it into mine:-

Drivers side engine mount
Calipers etc (2i spec) - u want to stop!
Rad and all pipes
Alternator and mount - from a 1.6s
Accelerator cable
Manifault (i put a 2i one on but the one on the engine is the same as a 1.6s!) - means u can use 2i systems

My engine had an auto choke - so should that!! so u just remove the choke cable!!

Thats all i had to change, i cant really give u anymore info either - if u get stuck while doing it give me a shout though and i will try to help!!!

James
neo@jameslunt.freeserve.co.uk

[fiesta boy]

where as i used the early coil engine swaped the wireing loom round and used a escot coil leads the lot not that hard if u can find a 1.4 or 1.6 fiesta to donate the loom ur make the escort loom fit

[xrsi]

More simple to do if it's edis!

If it isnt then you DONT!!!! have to swao the loom of the whole car!

All you have to do is get the coils off a mk3 fiesta (1.4-1.6) and all leads and follw the existing wiering to the multiplug in engine bay, unplug and plug in new coil!!!!!

[BeemanFRST]

I went to the scrappie this evining, an its a xr3i engine and a 1.6sport. Do all the same things aply as above, i hope they do.
Xr3i has frount dammage, looks like the engine mount is bent, very clean, 29thousand miles.
The 1.6 sport is very clean, loads of more wires( looks like a chip or something)|but it has 96thousand miles.
So what do you rekon, xrsi im keen to know what you think, and i hope the same things aply.
300punt for ither car (the hole car, cool or what)

[xrsi]

Right, if you have the injextion engine then you will need all of the wiering loom and fusebox frm an xr2i!!!! Also you will need a new fuel tank off an xr2i/1.4i as they are different to a carb model!
for the fiesta all the wiering you need to change is the loom in the bay (from multiplug onwards to engine!!)

Does the fiesta have any service history/ can you hear + see it running?????

I think that the fiesta is an easier conversion than an injection engine, but that is just me!!! Also if you get the whole fiesta you know that you will have all of the parts that you need to do the conversion!!!

[BeemanFRST]

Em, im still talkin about the escort engine.
Its carb, the 2 of them.
The engines are out of Escorts

[xrsi]

i thought that u said xr3i - hence injection, if both carb then go for the one with lowest millage and see if you can hear them running!!!!

[BeemanFRST]

Sorry m8, my mistake, its a xr3, but it had a xr3i sticker on the back, but they both have cards.ill let you know how i get on.

[BeemanFRST]

Will the xr3 engine mount have to be welded on to my car or does it bolt back on over the mount?

[xrsi]

No, you unbolt the engine mount off the escort engine (think it's about three boults and then get a fiesta 1.6s engine mount (probably better getting one from ford) and bolt this onto where the escort one was and then bolt it to the hole in the car where the old one fitted to!!!!

[BeemanFRST]

Why do i have to use the 1.6(fiesta) mount, should i not use the xr3 (escort) mount off the engine im gettin.
To recap
Im gettin a ecsort 1.6 sport or xr3 car, and im takein the engine out of it and puttin it into mine.

[xrsi]

unfortuatly the engine mounts are CAR specific NOT ENGINE specific!!!!

The mount on an escort is different to that of a fiesta because the body shell is a different shape so different mounts!

U do realise that the parts i said i had to change ALL had to come from a MK3 1.6 sport fiesta!!! except the manifault, this was from a fiesta xr2i!

[BeemanFRST]

so if i put the 1.6 mount on the xr3 engine will fit on to it. Yes /No
Now im gettin confused

[Project]

Any Mk3 Fiesta CVH engine mount (they're all the same from Ford anyway) will do on the RHS. The left hand side mounts at the gearbox cradle are all the same so you can just swap your existing 1.1 mount over, although you should buy new rubber mounts to reduce engine movement.

Al

[BeemanFRST]

So i need a cvh mount, i can use the standard rad for a while, use the xr3 accelerator cable, and the xr3 gear box.
Anything else.

[xrsi]

Yep u need a 1.6 fiesta cvh mount!! (drivers side)

You also need the following:-
Fiesta 1.6 cvh alternator and bracket
Fiesta 1.6 sport accelerator cable
Fiesta 1.4/1.6 cvh rad and coolant hoses

The escort box will be fine!!! Same mounting points as a fiesta box, probably the same gear box as the xr2/1.6s anyway!

hope this clears a few points up

James

[BeemanFRST]

sorry to be a pain but why cant i use the xr3, alternator and bracket and accelerator cable

[fiesta boy]

er y u need a new acesalorator cable????? i used my 1L one and mooded it