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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Smo on Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:25 pm

That's a proper way to make some throttle bodies up! :D
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Much better than the st170 manifold that doesn't line up with a standard head, and ports which are oval and don't match motorbike body oval ports. This setup is full of win!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Smo on Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:29 pm

Think you need to get another one made up :bonkers:
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:41 pm

The jig is made now so any further manifolds will be cheaper. Still looking at about £400 all in but worth it IMO
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Smo on Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:47 pm

Come on then, get it fitted!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Excursion on Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:03 pm

Come on monkeyspank, get it fitted. You can always drop it off to me and I will return it in a couple of years.
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:04 pm

I've just got some bolts and instant gasket to bolt it to the head. Tonight Simon!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - throttle bodies ready 10/8

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:29 pm

It runs!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's Fitted 10/8

Postby Smo on Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:48 pm

Yeah baby! Where's the video clip???
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's Fitted 10/8

Postby Rhinopower on Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:58 pm

On my Facebook page! Haven't uploaded it to photobucket yet
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's Fitted 10/8

Postby andymac on Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:44 pm

re nos, are you going to go for a separate, progressive delivery system or use the megasquirt to deal with that ?
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - ITB's Fitted 10/8

Postby Rhinopower on Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:51 pm

andymac :re nos, are you going to go for a separate, progressive delivery system or use the megasquirt to deal with that ?


Running a progressive controller, and megasquirt to only allow the nitrous to operate between 2k and 7800 rpm
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2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:49 pm

Finally got some trumpets on the throttle bodies, and pretty cheap at £21 delivered for a set of 4 from hong kong, they are direct fit

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Also received a nice package of my piper BP285 cams!

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Also got a nice shiny vernier and a set of valve top shims which will all need machining once i've calculated clearance and tolerances. The cams are reprofiles!

Im going to remove the head and give it a complete overhaul, check valve seal & re-lap as required, remove any of the sharp lines in the casting marks inside the ports, and replace all the valve stem oil seals. With the head off it will make valve clearances easier to check.

Enjoy!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby knuckles on Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:49 pm

nice fuel filter install :D

did you move the power steering pipe away from the brake pedal bar ?
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:59 pm

knuckles :nice fuel filter install :D

did you move the power steering pipe away from the brake pedal bar ?



Yes! Thanks for spotting that one!

I did have a smaller filter on there but had to change it when i fitted the braided fuel lines
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:58 am

knuckles :nice fuel filter install :D

did you move the power steering pipe away from the brake pedal bar ?



yea snap lol, might i recommend this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220812335795&clk_rvr_id=288984317176

cams should give it a gooood kick up the arse, i want some verniers, do blacktop ones fit silvertops?
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:16 pm

jonyb4 :
knuckles :nice fuel filter install :D

did you move the power steering pipe away from the brake pedal bar ?



yea snap lol, might i recommend this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220812335795&clk_rvr_id=288984317176

cams should give it a gooood kick up the arse, i want some verniers, do blacktop ones fit silvertops?


Nice one with the sticker! Lol

Yeah blacktop ones fit too!

The head is going to have a skim, valves refaced, 3 angle valve seats cut, lapped, shimmed, new stem oil seals and camshaft oil seals.

Everything i should of done before fitting it in the first place!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:23 pm

ahh great :), shall be wanting some one day :D

should breath plenty better soon then :)
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:34 pm

jonyb4 :ahh great :), shall be wanting some one day :D

should breath plenty better soon then :)


I was reading all about the three angle valve seats earlier, really interesting stuff how standard seats slow the air down due to turbulence, but with the 3 angles you can get 8-15cfm more air into the combustion chamber. More air, more fuel, bigger bang!

I will smooth the sharp casting marks of first before it gets skimmed and dunked in the acid bath etc!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Excursion on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:10 pm

Next set of results should be interesting mate. Trumpets work out well - are you going to run a sock over them?
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:27 pm

Yeah. Socks ftw! Soak them in an oil based air filter cleaner to stop any moisture ingress given their position.
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Sleeper - Trumpets & Cams

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:08 am

yea at college we spent quite a bit of time on valve seats and 3 angle seats, was really interesting, the turbulence it causes makes the air entering the cylinder in a bad way and can actually effect the combustion pulses on the power stroke!
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Db250 - Trumpets & Cams

Postby ~nomad~ on Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:57 pm

Title edited to reflect the probable power after new cams are fitted.
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Db250 - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:08 pm

~nomad~ :Title edited to reflect the probable power after new cams are fitted.


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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Db250 - Trumpets & Cams

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:52 am

omg your SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO funny
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Postby ~nomad~ on Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:27 pm

cheers man! xxxx
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Db250 - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Michael! on Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:54 am

Rhinopower :
~nomad~ :Title edited to reflect the probable power after new cams are fitted.


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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Db250 - Trumpets & Cams

Postby dontpannic on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:01 pm

~nomad~ :Title edited to reflect the probable power after new cams are fitted.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus Dirtbox Db250 - Trumpets & Cams

Postby Rhinopower on Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:29 pm

Little update:

Car went on the rollers the other day, and came away pretty disappointed.

Firstly, the car was going really lean after 5800rpm. Fuel pressure was perfect so we flow tested the injectors. These turned out to deliver 85cc/min, quite far from the expected 320cc/min. On further investigation these turned out to be 1.4 zetec injectors, not st170. However, dyno man Ian at power engineering had a spare set of audi 225bhp injectors kicking around (made by Bosch) so these were chucked in and instantly added another 15bhp.

The next problem was the car hitting a 'hard cut' rev limit at 6800rpm. Pretty annoying seeing as the car is built to rev to 8000rpm. This was discovered this evening to be because the crank sensor wiring needed reverting, although this is not listed in the megasquirt manual when you upgrade from ms1 to ms2.

On the day the car came away with 166bhp @ 6800rpm, so plenty of scope to climb higher in the last 1200rpm, it might even make a bit more across the scale if it's picking up a better crank signal, the sensitivity of the signal has been adjusted perfect using the tooth logger option in the diagnostics.
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus -166bhp @ 6800rpm...

Postby Smo on Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:35 pm

Come on then, get it sorted! :D
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus -166bhp @ 6800rpm...

Postby Rhinopower on Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:36 pm

Smo :Come on then, get it sorted! :D


I have, just can't get it back on the dyno at this time of the evening! Lol
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus -166bhp @ 6800rpm...

Postby hb69 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:40 pm

The noise this makes i wouldnt care if it only had 1bhp :lol:
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus -166bhp @ 6800rpm...

Postby ~nomad~ on Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:17 pm

It sounded amazing on the rollers, and went very well on the road the other day. Just needs another run to get a figure and iron it out :D
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Re: 2.0 ST170 Bonus -166bhp @ 6800rpm...

Postby Turboboy67 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:17 pm

hb69 :The noise this makes i wouldnt care if it only had 1bhp :lol:


The noise is epic :Q

Glad you found the problem mate, roll on RS Combe.

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2.0 ST170 Bonus -166bhp @ 6800rpm...

Postby dontpannic on Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:33 pm

I said on the day that it sounded like a helicopter. I've changed my mind now. It sounds like predator.


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