Fiesta RS Turbo Project
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Fiesta RS Turbo Project
Hi, this is the project plan, im going to do, just wanted to know what you guys think, plz no flaming if 'you' dont agree with anything and i dont want a complete engine conversion either thanks will be happy with the 1.6.
Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo
Stand alone fuel management system
carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)
Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system
Superchip 'stage 2' or '195'
701 injectors
Add 5th injector
Uprated fuel pump
Add intercooler or chargecooler
Dump valve
Boost gauge
Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore.
Boost controller
blue samco hoses
Dyno tested and re-mapped
Thanks
Manic
Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo
Stand alone fuel management system
carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)
Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system
Superchip 'stage 2' or '195'
701 injectors
Add 5th injector
Uprated fuel pump
Add intercooler or chargecooler
Dump valve
Boost gauge
Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore.
Boost controller
blue samco hoses
Dyno tested and re-mapped
Thanks
Manic
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Ask any FRST owner, any real FRST owner, an ECU is an ECU. It doesn't matter if it's OEM or stand alone.
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lol you think i saw the fast and the furious and thought 'that sounds good' well your wrong,
FMU (Fuel Management Unit) Inexpensive Fuel "curve" is always a straight line.
Supplemental Injector Controller Behaves as stock when not under boost Requires additional injectors
Piggy-Back Injector Controller Smooth A/F curves can be obtained over a wide range of engine speeds Based on fooling your engine ECU (not an elegent solution)
Stand Alone - Typically very programmable - can reach optimal performance, Expensive.
now u got bein a absaulte titout of your system, what u really thinhk about the plan?
FMU (Fuel Management Unit) Inexpensive Fuel "curve" is always a straight line.
Supplemental Injector Controller Behaves as stock when not under boost Requires additional injectors
Piggy-Back Injector Controller Smooth A/F curves can be obtained over a wide range of engine speeds Based on fooling your engine ECU (not an elegent solution)
Stand Alone - Typically very programmable - can reach optimal performance, Expensive.
now u got bein a absaulte titout of your system, what u really thinhk about the plan?
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And why do you need a 5th injector? Im sure Beiges or 701 are up to the job
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I wanna know how on earth your going to use a superchip 195 chip on another engine managenemt system ie. Omex or Autronic even Megasquirt.
Surley you would get the managenent maped instead of using anorther companys chip that wont fit the ECU at all. Seems a waste of money....
I think you need something like this:
Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo
OFAC or OFAB FRST management, remaped to suit engine spec. Ahamed Bajoo chip or MSD chip.
Kent or Piper 285T2 Cam
carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)
Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system
701 beige injectors
Escort Cozzie Fuel pump
Pro Alloy I/C or Radtec I/C
Dump valve (could do depends if you like em)
Boost gauge
Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore. (does the engine really need a re-bore)???
Paddle Clutch
CTS stage 1, 2, 2+ Gearbox
Boost controller
blue samco hoses
With that lil lot you should see over 200bhp reliable aswell.
Surley you would get the managenent maped instead of using anorther companys chip that wont fit the ECU at all. Seems a waste of money....
I think you need something like this:
Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo
OFAC or OFAB FRST management, remaped to suit engine spec. Ahamed Bajoo chip or MSD chip.
Kent or Piper 285T2 Cam
carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)
Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system
701 beige injectors
Escort Cozzie Fuel pump
Pro Alloy I/C or Radtec I/C
Dump valve (could do depends if you like em)
Boost gauge
Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore. (does the engine really need a re-bore)???
Paddle Clutch
CTS stage 1, 2, 2+ Gearbox
Boost controller
blue samco hoses
With that lil lot you should see over 200bhp reliable aswell.
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GavStyli - got a few places to check out, not sure if power engineering do it.
TomRS1800 - your right Beiges or 701 will do the job, but i just want that bit more power and a 5th injector will do it
Andy.B - yep your right, my bad its either going to be one or the other, and i think im going to have the stand alone as that will get better results, and more precise tuning. and thats a good set up you suggested, i know i am going to do somthing along them lines
TomRS1800 - your right Beiges or 701 will do the job, but i just want that bit more power and a 5th injector will do it
Andy.B - yep your right, my bad its either going to be one or the other, and i think im going to have the stand alone as that will get better results, and more precise tuning. and thats a good set up you suggested, i know i am going to do somthing along them lines
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I spy someone who can't take a joke
Seriously though, as far as management is concerned...if you want to spend a lot, get some good aftermarket engine management. If you want 200bhp, then beiges (701s) will be fine. There's no point in a fifth injector, and where did you think you would even put it? The FRST used an EFi engine, not MFi
Mongoose system has proven to give the best power gains, Scorpion is restrictive.
As said, if you're buying aftermarket "fuel management", a chip will be of no use if designed for FRST engine management.
Seriously though, as far as management is concerned...if you want to spend a lot, get some good aftermarket engine management. If you want 200bhp, then beiges (701s) will be fine. There's no point in a fifth injector, and where did you think you would even put it? The FRST used an EFi engine, not MFi
Mongoose system has proven to give the best power gains, Scorpion is restrictive.
As said, if you're buying aftermarket "fuel management", a chip will be of no use if designed for FRST engine management.
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Re: Fiesta RS Turbo Project
Manic :Hi, this is the project plan, im going to do, just wanted to know what you guys think, plz no flaming if 'you' dont agree with anything and i dont want a complete engine conversion either thanks will be happy with the 1.6.
Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo
Stand alone fuel management system
carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)
Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system
Superchip 'stage 2' or '195'
701 injectors
Add 5th injector
Uprated fuel pump
Add intercooler or chargecooler
Dump valve
Boost gauge
Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore.
Boost controller
blue samco hoses
Dyno tested and re-mapped
Thanks
Manic
just out of interest, where exactly did you get your ideas from? ddi u just mix and match!? or has someone you know done all this?
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CharlieT - I am studying at college and then university how to do these things and my uncle tunes cars so i also learnet a few things for him, these are the best options to increase the performance of a fiesta turbo.
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why the fcuk go to the hassel or expense of having stand alone fuel management and bloody 5 injectors!
i really do think that you have simply watched the fast and the furious and thought i know what will happen if i think about bolting that to the side of my car!
if you are serious then you would know that you do not need 5 injectors but can get higher flow rate injectors that are high impeedance that will work if correctly mapped!
go speak to a proper tuner and you will see that the spec you said and the spec you would need are two very differnt things!
i really do think that you have simply watched the fast and the furious and thought i know what will happen if i think about bolting that to the side of my car!
if you are serious then you would know that you do not need 5 injectors but can get higher flow rate injectors that are high impeedance that will work if correctly mapped!
go speak to a proper tuner and you will see that the spec you said and the spec you would need are two very differnt things!
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Manic :CharlieT - I am studying at college and then university how to do these things and my uncle tunes cars so i also learnet a few things for him, these are the best options to increase the performance of a fiesta turbo.
Xr_Dub - yah original
well rather than doing all youve said which is a load of blah blah blah!!
these rsts have been around for 15+years, why dont you go the proper tryed and tested route which guarantees performance and results ffs
and if not , you say these are the best options to increase the performance, how the fuk do u know that? u done it before?
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manic mate chill.. jokes a side
i wanna see how u get on with this spec
like gav said who ever is mapping the car will need to knw the spec and they will give u advice on it...
What sort power do you want and what kind of results
top end car?
0-100?
you need to think about that alot
also what box are going to run etc
let us knw mate how ure "spec goes"
i wanna see how u get on with this spec
like gav said who ever is mapping the car will need to knw the spec and they will give u advice on it...
What sort power do you want and what kind of results
top end car?
0-100?
you need to think about that alot
also what box are going to run etc
let us knw mate how ure "spec goes"
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Manic :thanks for all your kindness and help lads
when time time comes to do the project i will share the results good or bad
Serious, that would be good.
All the best matey, let us know how you get on. Don't get too pissed when it goes wrong, these cars are the supreme triers of patience!
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