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Fiesta RS Turbo Project

Postby Manic on Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:37 pm

Hi, this is the project plan, im going to do, just wanted to know what you guys think, plz no flaming if 'you' dont agree with anything and i dont want a complete engine conversion either thanks will be happy with the 1.6.

Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo

Stand alone fuel management system

carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)

Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system

Superchip 'stage 2' or '195'

701 injectors

Add 5th injector

Uprated fuel pump

Add intercooler or chargecooler

Dump valve

Boost gauge

Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore.

Boost controller

blue samco hoses

Dyno tested and re-mapped

Thanks

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Postby heeman10 on Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:16 pm

Ask any FRST owner, any real FRST owner, an ECU is an ECU. It doesn't matter if it's OEM or stand alone.
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Postby RS_Rawli on Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:20 pm

i live my life 1mm overbore at a time
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Postby Manic on Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:37 pm

lol you think i saw the fast and the furious and thought 'that sounds good' well your wrong,

FMU (Fuel Management Unit) Inexpensive Fuel "curve" is always a straight line.
Supplemental Injector Controller Behaves as stock when not under boost Requires additional injectors

Piggy-Back Injector Controller Smooth A/F curves can be obtained over a wide range of engine speeds Based on fooling your engine ECU (not an elegent solution)

Stand Alone - Typically very programmable - can reach optimal performance, Expensive.

now u got bein a absaulte titout of your system, what u really thinhk about the plan?
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Postby GavStyli on Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:55 pm

great, so whos going map it for you?
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Postby TomRS1800 on Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:10 pm

And why do you need a 5th injector? Im sure Beiges or 701 are up to the job
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Postby Andy.B on Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:14 pm

I wanna know how on earth your going to use a superchip 195 chip on another engine managenemt system ie. Omex or Autronic even Megasquirt. :-? :-?
Surley you would get the managenent maped instead of using anorther companys chip that wont fit the ECU at all. Seems a waste of money....

I think you need something like this:

Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo

OFAC or OFAB FRST management, remaped to suit engine spec. Ahamed Bajoo chip or MSD chip.

Kent or Piper 285T2 Cam

carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)

Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system

701 beige injectors

Escort Cozzie Fuel pump

Pro Alloy I/C or Radtec I/C

Dump valve (could do depends if you like em)

Boost gauge

Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore. (does the engine really need a re-bore)???

Paddle Clutch

CTS stage 1, 2, 2+ Gearbox

Boost controller

blue samco hoses

With that lil lot you should see over 200bhp reliable aswell.
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Postby Manic on Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:23 pm

GavStyli - got a few places to check out, not sure if power engineering do it.

TomRS1800 - your right Beiges or 701 will do the job, but i just want that bit more power and a 5th injector will do it

Andy.B - yep your right, my bad its either going to be one or the other, and i think im going to have the stand alone as that will get better results, and more precise tuning. and thats a good set up you suggested, i know i am going to do somthing along them lines
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Postby heeman10 on Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:04 pm

I spy someone who can't take a joke :lol:

Seriously though, as far as management is concerned...if you want to spend a lot, get some good aftermarket engine management. If you want 200bhp, then beiges (701s) will be fine. There's no point in a fifth injector, and where did you think you would even put it? The FRST used an EFi engine, not MFi :)

Mongoose system has proven to give the best power gains, Scorpion is restrictive.

As said, if you're buying aftermarket "fuel management", a chip will be of no use if designed for FRST engine management.
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Postby FezzR on Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:44 pm

Manic :but i just want that bit more power and a 5th injector will do it

either the air fuel mix is right or wrong there is no extra power to be gained to by using 4,5 or 7 injectors
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Re: Fiesta RS Turbo Project

Postby CharlieT on Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:36 pm

Manic :Hi, this is the project plan, im going to do, just wanted to know what you guys think, plz no flaming if 'you' dont agree with anything and i dont want a complete engine conversion either thanks will be happy with the 1.6.

Hybrid T3 Stage 3 Turbo

Stand alone fuel management system

carbon fibre Induction kit (preferably one which gives a cold air feed)

Full stainless steel scorpian exhaust system

Superchip 'stage 2' or '195'

701 injectors

Add 5th injector

Uprated fuel pump

Add intercooler or chargecooler

Dump valve

Boost gauge

Increase the 1597 to just over 1600 by boring the block, commonly known as a 1mm overbore.

Boost controller

blue samco hoses

Dyno tested and re-mapped

Thanks

Manic


just out of interest, where exactly did you get your ideas from? ddi u just mix and match!? or has someone you know done all this?
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Postby Xr_Dub on Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:23 am

RS_Rawli :i live my life 1mm overbore at a time

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Postby Manic on Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:23 pm

CharlieT - I am studying at college and then university how to do these things and my uncle tunes cars so i also learnet a few things for him, these are the best options to increase the performance of a fiesta turbo.

Xr_Dub - yah original :rolleyes:
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Postby paradox on Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:38 pm

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Postby xrsi on Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:02 am

why the fcuk go to the hassel or expense of having stand alone fuel management and bloody 5 injectors!

i really do think that you have simply watched the fast and the furious and thought i know what will happen if i think about bolting that to the side of my car! :lol:

if you are serious then you would know that you do not need 5 injectors but can get higher flow rate injectors that are high impeedance that will work if correctly mapped!

go speak to a proper tuner and you will see that the spec you said and the spec you would need are two very differnt things!
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Postby CharlieT on Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:11 am

Manic :CharlieT - I am studying at college and then university how to do these things and my uncle tunes cars so i also learnet a few things for him, these are the best options to increase the performance of a fiesta turbo.

Xr_Dub - yah original :rolleyes:


well rather than doing all youve said which is a load of blah blah blah!!
these rsts have been around for 15+years, why dont you go the proper tryed and tested route which guarantees performance and results ffs
and if not :rolleyes: , you say these are the best options to increase the performance, how the fuk do u know that? u done it before?
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Postby Xr_Dub on Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:25 am

manic mate chill.. jokes a side

i wanna see how u get on with this spec

like gav said who ever is mapping the car will need to knw the spec and they will give u advice on it...

What sort power do you want and what kind of results
top end car?
0-100?

you need to think about that alot

also what box are going to run etc

let us knw mate how ure "spec goes"
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Postby Manic on Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:42 am

thanks for all your kindness and help lads

when time time comes to do the project i will share the results good or bad
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Postby Excursion on Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:18 am

Manic :thanks for all your kindness and help lads

when time time comes to do the project i will share the results good or bad


Serious, that would be good.

All the best matey, let us know how you get on. Don't get too pissed when it goes wrong, these cars are the supreme triers of patience!
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