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[jayrs]

not late at all mate, i wont be getting a new cam untill sometime in the spring, so any comments about cams always welcome.

newmans looking like the one to go for so far

[knuckles]

before i got hold of a new ford cam i looked on newmans cam price list

when i added up the cam , lifter, springs etc it was getting near £500

solid lifters i think were even more exspensive than the normal hydrolic items

[MAD_Adamski]

not late at all mate, i wont be getting a new cam untill sometime in the spring, so any comments about cams always welcome.

newmans looking like the one to go for so far

newman are tug i had it on mine and it was a total pain in the ass with those lifters i'd recommend piper.

[jayrs]

before i got hold of a new ford cam i looked on newmans cam price list

when i added up the cam , lifter, springs etc it was getting near £500

solid lifters i think were even more exspensive than the normal hydrolic items

yeah they would be mate, but then they wouldnt w@nk out like the hydralic ones do

not late at all mate, i wont be getting a new cam untill sometime in the spring, so any comments about cams always welcome.

newmans looking like the one to go for so far

newman are tug i had it on mine and it was a total pain in the ass with those lifters i'd recommend piper.

how come mate? was it just the lifters you have problems with or was there a fault with the cam?

[MAD_Adamski]

the lifters you HAVE to use theirs because of the cam material, you cant use hydraulic and no matter who gaped them they came loose total tug design....

[jonyb4]

just when one sounds good someone recommends another

[niracka]

I'v only heard good things about newman cams.

Surely they can't be that gash otherwise they would just go out of buisness??

Ollie

[knuckles]

newman are tug i had it on mine and it was a total pain in the ass with those lifters i'd recommend piper.

would the cosworth cam kit be totally different to the cvh item ?
or did you use the newmans kit in your old mk3 ?

[jayrs]

i would stay on top of gapping, so it wouldnt bother me really, plus i wouldnt do many miles in it every year, but i can see how it would be a ball ache for a daily

[niracka]

So basicly the problem is just having to keep on adjusting them??

[pauldolman]

if there set up properly in the first place using the right clamps and tools, they should'nt need constally adjusted

[MAD_Adamski]

if there set up properly in the first place using the right clamps and tools, they should'nt need constally adjusted

are you sure ? i had 2 mechanics setup mine AFTER me this IS on my FRST not the cossie,,, and about 3-4 times 90% of the adjusters had changed position and we used the 'kit' supplied from newman... maybe i had a duff set BUT i feel the -ve's out weigh the +ve's...

If i was doing it again as said i did have a piper 285T couple of years before and the car went like fcuk on that i'd do the same again....

Noone has to listen to me tbh i dont care too many people on here dont listen to someone who's been there and done that these days but trust me i have spent or nearly spent 10-20k on my fiesta so i know what im saying...

i had 10k sat waiting to buy my final parts then i realised plumbing 10k in a fiesta was stupid so i bought the cossie and to this day the cossie is worth WAY more than my old fiesta

BUT make no hesitation there kits ARE very good and prb better than others just the adjustment for the CVH setup is S'HIT zetec and cossie ones are prob far better... tbh i may even have a newman in my cossie now as mark has changed the inlet cam to a wild one...

[jayrs]

i appreciate replys and feedback from everyone, personal experiance of a given item is what im after, good or bad.
once im im ready to get a cam i will look at this thread again and re-read everything about different make cams and couple with my own thoughts and experiance will decide which to go for.

but so far i have heard good and bad about all the different cams out there, and to date, newman has had the lowerst amount of negitive comments about them, but this could be due to the fact that kent and piper just have been used more, maybe due to cost....., i dunno, but im listening and everything said, good or bad, all is appreciated

[MAD_Adamski]

no worries jay you will hear more about piper and kent as they have been round for yrs! BUT i wouldnt touch kent i have heard of ones fcuked after a few hundred miles..... piper or newman FTW

[jayrs]

no worries jay you will hear more about piper and kent as they have been round for yrs! BUT i wouldnt touch kent i have heard of ones fcuked after a few hundred miles..... piper or newman FTW

yeah don t worry mate, i think i will avoid kent, once bitten twice shy
one thing i will take into account though when picking the next cam, is profiles, i want one as close to standard as poss, so that could play a big fact in it, although, fact or not, i wont be going kent again

[jonyb4]

if there set up properly in the first place using the right clamps and tools, they should'nt need constally adjusted

are you sure ? i had 2 mechanics setup mine AFTER me this IS on my FRST not the cossie,,, and about 3-4 times 90% of the adjusters had changed position and we used the 'kit' supplied from newman... maybe i had a duff set BUT i feel the -ve's out weigh the +ve's...

If i was doing it again as said i did have a piper 285T couple of years before and the car went like fcuk on that i'd do the same again....

Noone has to listen to me tbh i dont care too many people on here dont listen to someone who's been there and done that these days but trust me i have spent or nearly spent 10-20k on my fiesta so i know what im saying...

i had 10k sat waiting to buy my final parts then i realised plumbing 10k in a fiesta was stupid so i bought the cossie and to this day the cossie is worth WAY more than my old fiesta

BUT make no hesitation there kits ARE very good and prb better than others just the adjustment for the CVH setup is S'HIT zetec and cossie ones are prob far better... tbh i may even have a newman in my cossie now as mark has changed the inlet cam to a wild one...

noticed in a couple of threads, you let your ego get the better of you

[knuckles]

i would even go to the extreme of using a pattern part camshaft kit instead of another kent one.
Friend of mine got his which was made by BGA.
Was just as good

[jayrs]

i would even go to the extreme of using a pattern part camshaft kit instead of another kent one.
Friend of mine got his which was made by BGA.
Was just as good

if i can avoid a patten one i will, but if not i will go pattern.
im going to find out if QH do cam shafts, as i rate there stuff highly, and from all the years ive used there parts, i cant say ive had any problems

[MAD_Adamski]

if there set up properly in the first place using the right clamps and tools, they should'nt need constally adjusted

are you sure ? i had 2 mechanics setup mine AFTER me this IS on my FRST not the cossie,,, and about 3-4 times 90% of the adjusters had changed position and we used the 'kit' supplied from newman... maybe i had a duff set BUT i feel the -ve's out weigh the +ve's...

If i was doing it again as said i did have a piper 285T couple of years before and the car went like fcuk on that i'd do the same again....

Noone has to listen to me tbh i dont care too many people on here dont listen to someone who's been there and done that these days but trust me i have spent or nearly spent 10-20k on my fiesta so i know what im saying...

i had 10k sat waiting to buy my final parts then i realised plumbing 10k in a fiesta was stupid so i bought the cossie and to this day the cossie is worth WAY more than my old fiesta

BUT make no hesitation there kits ARE very good and prb better than others just the adjustment for the CVH setup is S'HIT zetec and cossie ones are prob far better... tbh i may even have a newman in my cossie now as mark has changed the inlet cam to a wild one...

noticed in a couple of threads, you let your ego get the better of you

not ego at all i have been on here for years and as said been there done that with FRST's and like to point people in the right directions now if people dont like me speaking the truth and saying something is gash and giving advice after my knowledge and experience with these and stuff i picked up over the yrs tbh i dont give a fcuk.... too many 'kids' on here these days who think they know everything... its cruel love. plenty of people on here build these cars go too far,make wrong decisions, and lose money (me included) so i only offer advice from someone who lost prob 5-10k on his own due to mistakes and goign too far and selling it...

i still get people off this forum calling me and pm'in me for advice it that cause of my ego or knowledge ? if something is black i wont call it white i say it how it is

jay knows the score known him for yrs he knows i wont fob him off i have had 3 cams and can offer some very good advice whether he takes it is his choice BUT i will rib him if he moans at a later date

[MAD_Adamski]

no worries jay you will hear more about piper and kent as they have been round for yrs! BUT i wouldnt touch kent i have heard of ones fcuked after a few hundred miles..... piper or newman FTW

yeah don t worry mate, i think i will avoid kent, once bitten twice shy
one thing i will take into account though when picking the next cam, is profiles, i want one as close to standard as poss, so that could play a big fact in it, although, fact or not, i wont be going kent again

incidently the 285t i had was wild torque steer wasn't the word,,, which is why i recommend it fun as hell if i had a frst again i'd get a 195chip, beiges, mongoose, uprated pump, T2 hybrid and piper cam thats was when mine was the most fun

you might wanna try and find our what lift each make has!? and get a good go between like you say bit more than std....

[jayrs]

i will mate, i will be looking into it in more detail, i dont fancy a larry cam like that

i did havd a gen ford one lined but, but the refund from road tax took ages to come back to me, they even refused to give it back as i hadnt told them why i wanted the refund..... di ck heads clearly didnt look at the form or the enclosed letter, so a strongly worded letter later i got my refund, but it was a week to late, the cam had sold

if i get a $hit one and i moan, you can rib as much as you like as i would prob deserve it

[jayrs]

cam was delivered to kent on wednesday 19th, so wait and see what they say about it..


as for a replacment, im still undecided on which make to go for, and as i now want one with standard profiles, or as close to standard as i can get, i will be contacting piper and newman to see what costs will be and if they could make a one off at standard spec, again, and the cost if there willing to do it.

i will also speak to kent about the same, but i'll wait for the results on the cam i sent back before asking them.


no other updates

[Russ FRST]

Will be interesting to see what Kent make of it Jay, Hope they don't sod you about with technical reasons for it happening and just get something sorted out like a replacement kit or a refund..

[jayrs]

so do i mate.
i can back up the engine rebuild and the milage, after all i hadnt even done 1200 miles when it went, all parts new, oil new, filter, all oil ways clean and clear and oil pressure was also fine, so i dunno what they could blaim but were see.

when i dug the paper work out, i got it in feb 2006, so im not holding much hope out they will do anything now, but who knows, due to the low milage the engine done thye might, were see

[niracka]

Hope you get this sorted mate.

Only thing is like you said you'v had the kit a long time so they ight try and claim your lying about the miles or something. However they are well known for being a top company so would hope they would help you out.

[jonyb4]

it should be fine mate, it cant be the first to go wrong so earliy like that, so with luck you'll get a full refund

and maybe even an incentive

[jayrs]

i got MOT's that can back the milage up, along with sorn letters to show its spent more time off road than on it so im not worried about that.

i've written the cam off anyway with the thought of paying for a new one, so if they do nothing, only thing ive lost is the £11 it cost to send it back, but its better to try and fail than not try at all.

johny, if they replace, it will be just that, i really dont think they will give anything else, but would be nice

[- Danny Boy -]

Im sure you will sort the issue out either way Jay, even if you have to go down there yourself

How about trying to source a new/recon or even used cam from another RST? Must be a company out there which does replacements for standard

[jayrs]

a used cam is not even going to be considered tbh mate.
there are pattern cams but as i think i said on here or to someone else, if i could get a QH cam, thats the only pattern one i would consider, but i belive they dont make them, so it will have to be one of the known brands of uprated cams

[niracka]

I take it you can't get an origional one from ford anymore then

Try this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-rs-turbo-cam ... arParts_SM

[knuckles]

I take it you can't get an origional one from ford anymore then

nope

i had the last two before they removed them from service

[niracka]

you selfish c**t lol

[knuckles]

you selfish c**t lol

[jayrs]

he is aint he, i was gunna have one of clark but it had to go in the rs he sold


i dont like the sound of that camtec one, too cheap, and i go by, buy cheap buy twice

although the kent one wasnt cheap

[jonyb4]

jay, i could learn alot from a wise man such as yourself, full of good one liners