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[Jore]

Hi,

I have my first car there lying in the parking lot and now I'm going to do something fun out of it.

So the car is Fiesta 1.6S -89 (mk3) and I'm planning to do this:

ERST engine with some mods, going (or wishing to go) to have near 200hp. But lets leave the engine question like that, it's another case

But now everything else.

I was going to have:
-Avo coilovers, is those good for price? How much more expensive are H&R:s?
-Sierra Cossie 4*4 front brakes, is it "bolt on"? What parts are needed?
-Mk5 rear beam and Focus discs. It has to be Zetec S beam or what? Is 2.0 focus discs enough or do I need bigger?
-Master cylinder has to be upgraded? Someone said that mk5 escort cylinder will do it, what escort should I take that?
-With mk5 rear beam there is no rear arb needed, what about front? Someone said that 2,5 V6 mondeo arb will do it, is this correct? Any other ideas?
-With body I planned to go with Cossie look front bumber, XR2i arches and sideskirts, Zetec-S rear bumber and Mondeo STW rear spoiler.
-Interior will be ripped of and just two racing seats and rollcage inside. Does anyone have installed 10-point cage from OMP? Any other applications? Is there any _working_ quickshifter kits for Fiesta?
-As 1.6S fuel tank will not do it, I planned to get a safety tank to trunk.
-16" OZ-racing superleggera (does anyone know any lighter alloys that one can affort? ) and some 225/40R16 tires. Or is it better to get 17" with 225/35R17. I prefer function over look with this alloy question, but offcourse the looks matter too

As you can see, this car will be made mosttly for fun and only for summer driving (sure it would be nice to test 200+ hp fwd car at our winter in Finland : )

Does this make any sense or have I gone awfully wrong with this?

I know that it's a lot of questions, but I've noticed that here is a lot of experts too

-Jore

[ianFRST]

why an ERST engine? surely a FRST engine will go straigh in with no mods, and im pretty sure u will need mods 2 fit the ERST???

cant answer any questions tho

[Jore]

why an ERST engine? surely a FRST engine will go straigh in with no mods, and im pretty sure u will need mods 2 fit the ERST???

cant answer any questions tho

Because I live in Finland where we have one or two original FRSTs and maybe half a dozen built FRST:s. Another problem is that we have lhd-cars and lhd FRST is very hard to find from europe (been there, done that).

And if I get one from UK, it'll cost me about £3000 + costs to get it in Finland so we are talking about 6000e (£3600) with all expenses to have orig. here, after that I have to pay taxes for it and change the steering from rhd to lhd. Also if I get FRST engine only from UK, that will go to some £1000-1300. And thas too much again.

I'm planning to get an ERST from Sweden (next to Finland) for about £600-700, and from that I can sell everything that has been left over after my work. With whole budget I'm wishing to go with some 5000-6000e (£3000-£3600).

And again the mods that need to be made for ERST engine -> Fiesta isn't problem because I'm planning to disemble my Fiesta in to peaces and built it up from start anyhow.

-Jore

[Jore]

Edited subject. Hope it makes it more interresting and give more comments

-Jore

[Stoned]

Hi,

I have my first car there lying in the parking lot and now I'm going to do something fun out of it.

So the car is Fiesta 1.6S -89 (mk3) and I'm planning to do this:

ERST engine with some mods, going (or wishing to go) to have near 200hp. But lets leave the engine question like that, it's another case

cool!

But now everything else.

I was going to have:
-Avo coilovers, is those good for price? How much more expensive are H&R:s?
A lot of people say the Avo's are good on here. However I KNOW the H&R's are good because they are on my car. I personally think they are worth every penny which is just as well as they are expensive. Cost about £650 at our prices

-Sierra Cossie 4*4 front brakes, is it "bolt on"? What parts are needed?
As far as I know these will work on your car but you will need to use some washers. A full guide can be found here http://www.fiestaturbo.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=29615

-Mk5 rear beam and Focus discs. It has to be Zetec S beam or what? Is 2.0 focus discs enough or do I need bigger?
What Adrian said earlier was it needed to be a late Z-S rear beam. But some others said other models might work. However the one thing no one is debating is the Z-S beam is stronger than the others so worth sticking with that if you can get one. Oh and Focus 2.0 discs brakes are more than enough. Only 10% braking is done on the rear wheels anyhow

-Master cylinder has to be upgraded? Someone said that mk5 escort cylinder will do it, what escort should I take that?
I took a master cylinder off a MK5 Escort. It will require a little bit of welding to make it fit, but it will eleminate the spongy feeling and generally improve the braking effect - recommended

-With mk5 rear beam there is no rear arb needed, what about front? Someone said that 2,5 V6 mondeo arb will do it, is this correct? Any other ideas?
sorry, dont know

-With body I planned to go with Cossie look front bumber, XR2i arches and sideskirts, Zetec-S rear bumber and Mondeo STW rear spoiler.
mint!

-Interior will be ripped of and just two racing seats and rollcage inside. Does anyone have installed 10-point cage from OMP? Any other applications? Is there any _working_ quickshifter kits for Fiesta?
Yeah this is a quickshift kit, but I cant remember the name of it

-As 1.6S fuel tank will not do it, I planned to get a safety tank to trunk.
-16" OZ-racing superleggera (does anyone know any lighter alloys that one can affort? ) and some 225/40R16 tires. Or is it better to get 17" with 225/35R17. I prefer function over look with this alloy question, but offcourse the looks matter too
w00t!, choice mate. I want some of those alloys too. I've done some research and they really do appear to be the lightest wheels around

As you can see, this car will be made mosttly for fun and only for summer driving (sure it would be nice to test 200+ hp fwd car at our winter in Finland : )

Does this make any sense or have I gone awfully wrong with this?

I know that it's a lot of questions, but I've noticed that here is a lot of experts too

Stoned wos ere

-Jore

[Jore]

Thanks Stoned.

You pretty much underlined everything that I thought. I have read that article about cossie front brakes and they look good with so little work. Also that rear break setup is good, and I will look for that Zetec-S rear beam. Can anyone say, what is ment by "late" Z-S beam? What year model would do it?

Those H&R:s sounds good, but it's hard to decide when I have not tested any of those by my self. Just thought that if I use Avo with heigh and stiffnes adjustment and then change upper attachment of front coilover so the camber and castor can be set up with that.

Other way is to get that wishbone (won't remember the name) that is mentioned in that sticky thread, and adjust the camber with that, but I'm little sceptical if that setup will hold so that it doesn't slip and let camber change during some hard driving. Does anyone have any experience about that?

Those superleggeras are really lightwighted, my friend had set of 17" of those under Opel (Vauxhal) Astra and they sure looked good. One 17*8" wheel weighed only 6,7kg. Only problem with those are that they look small. He had Alessio Monzas before those and they looked big, and after that those OZ:s looked tiny. But I believe that 16" with 225/40R16 tires will look good in Fiesta.

If someone can remember the name of that quickshifter, it would be great.

Just hope that this project ends up good. I have RS2000 Escort as daily drive and because there is no mods to take it to these figures I decided that I start with Fiesta. Hope that it can be seen ready somewhere in summer 2005

-Jore

PS. this is where I'm starting from

[StreetDragster]

Cool! Best of luck mate, do B+M not make a quickshift for the Fiesta RST? I know they make them for the mk4 fiesta

Thanks

Matt

[AndyBlackFRST]

All sounds nicely planned.

With the Cossie front and Z-s rear bumper, you may need to have deeper skirts otherwise the car looks wrong from the side.

[Jore]

Deeper? Do you mean wider or more narrow (or what)?

Do you have any idea of better matching sideskirts and arches for that set? But isn't there cossie front and RST skirts in Sunnys FRST too? That doesn't look too bad (in fact not bad at all)

-Jore

[Jore]

Isn't this with Zetec-S rear and RST arches and skirts?



BTW. Please tell me that those tiny wheels are 15" !!!
Propably not, I believe that those are 16", look upper what I just told about superleggeras...

Edit: actually it looks bigger on this picture, but in sideview it looks lot smaller

[Fez]

Sorry but I can't be arsed to write in English :bonkers:

En jaksanut pistä quoteja, joten tässä tiivistettynä:
Arvasin, että Fiesta alkaa taas polttelemaan . Joko on kaupat tehty, vai vieläkö meinaat tekniikanvaihtoa?

Meinaatko, että 225/40/16 mahtuu? Vai onko jo rälläkän laikkoja ostettu

Coilovereista: Prostreetin kautta H&R:t noin 1000e, 15% joutuu maksamaan etukäteen. Semmoset tossa laatikossa kiiltelee
Autovaruste.netissä maksoi 1300, mutta ei näytä olevan enää listoilla.

Muista, että vaikka laitat Z-S:n taka-akselin, vaatii laki silti FRST:n vakaajan taakse, jos vaihdat tekniikan. Eteen kannattanee laittaa FRST:n vakaaja, Mondeossa on kuulemma ohuempi(?). Ja vähemmällä työllä pääsee.

Pakko noiden on olla 15" tuossa kuvassa. Ja kyllä, Z-S/RST.

Luulen, että Andy tarkoitti deeperillä, että FRST:n helmat eivät ole kovin korkeat. Eli että puskurit olisivat matalammalla kuin helmat. Mutta mun mielestä [ERRR] kuitenkin on aikas isot. Eli en usko, että ulkonäköongelmia tulee.

Omakin projekti alkaa edistymään. Tänään hain älyttömän kasan osia Kivitilasta, mukaanlukien Zetecin kiinnikkeet. Perhanan öljypohjaa en vieläkään saanut, ollut tilauksessa monta kuukautta. Kuulemma tehtaalla on tilaus tuhannesta öp:stä, mutta eivät vielä tienneet koska alkavat tekemään. Eli ei kuitenkaan pahemmin pääse mallailemaan konetta keulille.

[xrsi]

All sounds nicely planned.

With the Cossie front and Z-s rear bumper, you may need to have deeper skirts otherwise the car looks wrong from the side.

andy mine is with rst arches!

i have adeep cozzie front, and the esp design evotech rear! deeper than the zetec s (got a splitter on a zetec moulded bumper!) and it looks fine!

[Jore]

Sorry but I can't be arsed to write in English :bonkers:
En jaksanut pistä quoteja, joten tässä tiivistettynä:
Arvasin, että Fiesta alkaa taas polttelemaan . Joko on kaupat tehty, vai vieläkö meinaat tekniikanvaihtoa?

Morjensta.

Kyllä nyt olisi se aidon rakentaminen kiikarissa, toivottavasti saisin väännettyä kaupat siitä. Pitää sitten tosta omasta S:stäkin päästä eroon.

Mua kyllä vähän ottaa päähän kun olin jo tavallaan päättänyt että hommaisin seuraavaksi autoksi MR2 Turbon, mutta nyt kun toi olisi tarjolla niin himottaisi niin pirusti alkaa rakentamaan sitä. Todennäköisesti ostan tuon joka tapauksessa pois ja keväällä katson että alanko rakentamaan vai laitanko kiertoon. Saapahan ainakin yhden aidon FRST:n lisää suomeen.

Ja jos mä rupeen tota rakentamaan, niin sitten mennään kyllä asenteella että kaikki mitä halutaan saadaan toimimaan. Eli kyllä [ERRR] 225:setkin menee alle jos vaan tarpeeksi tahtoo

Mutta kahtotaan mitä tapahtuu

T:Jore

PS. koskakohan alkaa valitus "väärästä" kielestä?

[Stoned]

Ease up lads

How are we meant to follow that!

[Jore]

Lol

I just wrote in that PS. that I wonder when somebody says something about our lanquage

So little catch up:

Fez wrote something about his project and told where to get parts from Finland. He also reminded me of those nice little thingies in Finnish law, for example if you put Zetec-S rear beam you have to also put FRST arb to have that approved in the inspection.

He also asked about latest development about this project. I have written in our Finnish board that I have orig. FRST in sight. So if I can manage to make a deal with that, I will dump that 1.6S and start the project with orig. car which is much better.

-Jore