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[sugbug]

who would be faster from the lights

[Mr Jungle]

XR 2i is the quikest on paper

[eqraz]

both the 8v and 16v xr2i's are quicker on paper

[Mr Jungle]

I raced a Saxo VTR last night and was pleasently suppried when i shot of straight from the lights

[Codey]

On paper yes, but in fact i'd say no.

I've had an XR2i, when it had the 1.6 8v engine in it, wouldnt have taken a Zetec-S off the lights. The 16v probably will.

Also, I've raced quite a few xr2i's when my Zetec-S was in standard form and its always been either me pulling off or a very even match and me pulling off on the top end. I've not yet been beaten by one.

Now with my 4" Magnex Cat-Back Exhaust and Pipercross filter, it has a little more poke now!

Bill

[moulder]

Thats the thing with modern cars theres no wear so they actually have the output said in the books. XR's are worn so dont have optimum perrofrmance so I guess they will just lack a tiny bit of grunt.

I expect tuned up and re built XR's would make a more interesting battle.

[Mr Jungle]

On paper yes, but in fact i'd say no.

I've had an XR2i, when it had the 1.6 8v engine in it, wouldnt have taken a Zetec-S off the lights. The 16v probably will.

Also, I've raced quite a few xr2i's when my Zetec-S was in standard form and its always been either me pulling off or a very even match and me pulling off on the top end. I've not yet been beaten by one.

Now with my 4" Magnex Cat-Back Exhaust and Pipercross filter, it has a little more poke now!

Bill

I dont know what you think the 16v has on the 8v, cause the 16v is not as fast

[crispa]

The 16v is quicky to 60 then the 8v although a slight lack of hp on the 16v side it is made up for with the lower and closer gear ratio's + a lot more torque!! When mine was std 8v could never do me at the lights !

[Codey]

Yeah exactly what crispa said ! .

Also, the Zetec engine is more torqy than the CVH engine, it wants to pull more throughout the rev range. I know on paper it say that the 8v and 16v xr2i have the same 0 - 60 but i really fail to see how they have reached that conclusion. I've had the benefit of driving both, as i started with an 8v and changed the engine to a 16v, and the 16v is deffinitly more torqy. As Crispa pointed out, there is a difference in gear ratios, but i dont think thats the only factor in what makes the 16v quicker.

Drawing on another comparison, when my XR2i was standard, my mate also just got one, the 16v version. Before i went out in his i was under the impression that both would compare pretty well to each other. Well he totally whooped me off the lights!. I had a go in his, and as i was so used to how mine felt, i could really tell the difference. It just pulled so much more than mine. When i upgraded my engine to the same 1.8 16v i was then able to keep up with him, and also had some races with 8v's and always got infront. This is basically the reason why i think the 16v is quicker than the 8v dispite what it says on paper .

Bill

[chumkila]

are we talking about the Zetec engines in BOTH cars??? If so, the Zetec-S has a 1.6 engine and the Xr2i has a 1.8 engine. Can we really compare the two??

[moulder]

U know thats a good point, but maybe the zetec s is just as quick cos of the different type of zetec engine. I think is 1 for the experts, or a 3 way race between a 2i cvh, 2i zetec and a zetec s. Then we will see whos the best.

[eqraz]

2i cvh every time (as long as its not f00ked)

[eqraz]

2i cvh every time (as long as its not f00ked)

[AdrianFRST]

My Zetec-S is about the same as my 2i 16v was. I reckon it's about the same as a 1.6 2i but as soon as you get to a corner you'd leave the 2i for dead. The suspension and brakes on a ZS are so much better than the 2i it's untrue!

I'll happily admit that the Zetec-S is a far superior car to my 2i, but for 5 times the price it should be!

[Mr Jungle]

My Zetec-S is about the same as my 2i 16v was. I reckon it's about the same as a 1.6 2i but as soon as you get to a corner you'd leave the 2i for dead. The suspension and brakes on a ZS are so much better than the 2i it's untrue!

I'll happily admit that the Zetec-S is a far superior car to my 2i, but for 5 times the price it should be!

And that's exactly what it all boils down to, for the money the Zetec-S should be hot !!!

I think both 2i's perform danm well for the money

[moulder]

Yep a mk 3 wil understeer loads. But the mk 3 ias the daddy 4 the money cvh or zetec. The zetec s wil aways be a better car but ut just hasnt got the rudeness, and is no where near as bad boy

Bo selector

[Codey]

I also agree, my Zetec-S was in the same league as my 2i 16v. The 1.6 engine in the Z-S is not the same as the 1.6 in the Si, and this is most probably why it stands up better to the 1.8 16v Zetec engines. I know some may either agree or disagree, i have nothing againts 2i's, they certainly have the more badboy image and agressive looks than a Zetec-S.

[moulder]

Yeah i agree mate. In general they are all fords so nuff said

[Canwell]

ok ZS are nice cars very nice infact but how much r they? 12/14k? for that imagine wot u could do 2 a 2i, 200bhp easily!!!

i reckon Zectec-S looks the mutts nutts, and out does the 2i on looks anyday.

performance wud be similar considering the ZS is brand new, but i ave no idea.

[Shaun]

The ZS is a yuppies car, and of course its gonna be quicker, it handles better and its virtually brand new, and as said before, it aint gonna loose any poke is it? but for 8 K I know what I would do, a cosworth lump stright into my mark three.

Bring me a ZS when its thirteen years old and ill bring my standard 2i out of the garage, then we'll c who the daddie.......