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fiesta zetec turbo ouchhhhhhhhh

Postby blitz on Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:36 am

hi could any body help i have a fiesta xr21 1800 16v zetec anybody no the cheapist way i can get turbo power i just got the bodykit the ice the rims just need the engine to match please help :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
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Postby louma84 on Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:09 pm

full on zetec turbo power is gonna cost ya 5k+, zvh with a fiesta rst head would be the cheaper option thats if u just don't want to stick a frst lump in ur which would be the cheapest option! :Q
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Re: fiesta zetec turbo ouchhhhhhhhh

Postby freak power on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:26 pm

blitz :anybody no the cheapist way i can get turbo power


There is no cheap way of doing a Zetec turbo
Now driving a 1999 Audi S3 with 2.1 20v OD HTAGT3582r Turbo

Bring on the 650+Bhp 4x4 monster
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Postby scotty_boy on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:28 pm

louma84 :full on zetec turbo power is gonna cost ya 5k+, zvh with a fiesta rst head would be the cheaper option thats if u just don't want to stick a frst lump in [ERRR] which would be the cheapest option! :Q


5k :lol: not quite that much, depends on the spec and zvh wouldnt be cheeper at all.

frst engine would be the cheepest option, but is a step back and would require some attacking of wiring loom. 1.8ZT is do able for a reasonable price :Q
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Re: fiesta zetec turbo ouchhhhhhhhh

Postby SimonT on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:34 pm

freak power :
blitz :anybody no the cheapist way i can get turbo power


There is no cheap way of doing a Zetec turbo


Very true. Thats why I gave up :)
Too old and too bald.
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Postby blitz on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:35 pm

sounds expensive to me ok then what the max my engine will push out with out a turbo i no that if i fit mondeo 130psi cams larger throttle bodie and ecu it will push 130bhp but that just not enought i will be happy with 150+ but i aint got 5k to spend on it . :devil:
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Postby SimonT on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:38 pm

How much u got to spend then?
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Postby blitz on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:40 pm

well i got a little i blown myself out with buyin bodykit and rims just spent 1500 on a system aswell so how much you recon i will need to get my car to spec
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Postby SimonT on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:43 pm

to what spec?

130ps spec about 150 quid with the right contacts or just buy a 2.0 engine.

anything more than that and your talking big dollar
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Postby blitz on Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:17 pm

but then if i buy a 2ltr engine i cant just drop it staight in to be hounst i no a little about cars but when it comes to this im lost i mean gettin hold of any engine is no problem but then its just fittin it....is there no ford engine i can just drop in
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Postby DanS2i on Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:49 am

Why not just use the cams, throttle body and ecu from either an RS1800 or a 2.0L Mondeo.

This will give you the same power output as a 2.0L or RS1800 (130BHP) but obviously the torque will be slightly lower but not a great deal!

Swapping these 3 parts over is alot more straight forward than changing the engine and should work out cheaper!

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Postby louma84 on Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:56 pm

5k not quite that much, depends on the spec and zvh wouldnt be cheeper at all.


zvh not cheaper than a full zetec 16v turbo? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
wot planet u living on?
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:11 pm

louma84 :
5k not quite that much, depends on the spec and zvh wouldnt be cheeper at all.


zvh not cheaper than a full zetec 16v turbo? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
wot planet u living on?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Why is it cheaper then?
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Postby demolition_man on Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:02 pm

it would be a little cheaper, being that a performance cylinder head for zetec is more expensive than a cvh and theres twice the cost for cams n pulleys BUT in the great scheme of things this difference is negligable imo i might be wrong like but thats how i see it.
Mind you i have no idea the cost of modication to mate the cvh head with the zetec bottom end!
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Postby louma84 on Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:40 pm

well all the modifiying it takes to the zetec head to allow for forced induction, ie manifold for turbo, c/r, fitment of suitable injector rail, engine mangement!. where as the cvh head its all there for u! all that is needed is alittle modifying to allow the cvh head to fit the zetec bottom end! :P
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Postby Ruishy1 on Sun Mar 20, 2005 6:24 pm

louma84 :well all the modifiying it takes to the zetec head to allow for forced induction, ie manifold for turbo, c/r, fitment of suitable injector rail, engine mangement!. where as the cvh head its all there for u! all that is needed is alittle modifying to allow the cvh head to fit the zetec bottom end! :P

i agree... you only have to take the engine apart for that :rolleyes:
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Postby MAD_Adamski on Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:44 pm

well after all that the guy is sayin [ERRR] price!!!! :rolleyes: so keep to the post!! if you want turbo power the cheaest way is to do a frst conversion but even this is not cheap you will need loom,ecu,all pipes,engine,manifolds,turbo,exhaust,rad maybe more?? thats just off the top of my head so you need to seriously think wot you want to do.. :rolleyes:
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Postby AdrianFRST on Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:53 pm

louma84 :well all the modifiying it takes to the zetec head to allow for forced induction, ie manifold for turbo, c/r, fitment of suitable injector rail, engine mangement!. where as the cvh head its all there for u! all that is needed is alittle modifying to allow the cvh head to fit the zetec bottom end! :P


"All the modifying" being a couple of spacer plates to fit the EFi manifold then?

As opposed to the ZVH blanking of the oil galleys, 1300cvh cambelt tensioner, camshaft pulley spacer, 150mm head bolts, 2.0 US CVH head gasket, dipstick bracket, water pump plate, oil feed to head o-ring etc.

You'll need to change the CR of the bottom end regardless of what head you use, unless you're doing a really low boost conversion.

Even if you've got a fully worked CVH head it would make more sense to sell that and go 16v.
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Postby MAD_Adamski on Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:45 pm

AdrianFRST :
louma84 :well all the modifiying it takes to the zetec head to allow for forced induction, ie manifold for turbo, c/r, fitment of suitable injector rail, engine mangement!. where as the cvh head its all there for u! all that is needed is alittle modifying to allow the cvh head to fit the zetec bottom end! :P


"All the modifying" being a couple of spacer plates to fit the EFi manifold then?

As opposed to the ZVH blanking of the oil galleys, 1300cvh cambelt tensioner, camshaft pulley spacer, 150mm head bolts, 2.0 US CVH head gasket, dipstick bracket, water pump plate, oil feed to head o-ring etc.

You'll need to change the CR of the bottom end regardless of what head you use, unless you're doing a really low boost conversion.

Even if you've got a fully worked CVH head it would make more sense to sell that and go 16v.


blitz if you are reading all this you will see there are alot of work involved in zvh and zetec so as i said you can either keep [ERRR] you got now, put a frst lump in, or spend a fortune :lol: :P
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ok then lads

Postby blitz on Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:55 pm

ok then boy i can get a rs turbo engine either a escort or fiesta turbo engine thats no problem and everything else needed but who can i get to fit it anybody got any ideas please leave a post
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Postby j_man69 on Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:06 pm

or just buy this;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... eName=WDVW

swap engines with yours

then sell it, thats gotta be the cheapest way !!!
project fez has landed !!
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Postby j_man69 on Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:16 pm

i would just basically get a rst and use all the running gear apart from the block which i would use a 2.0 zetec which would give better bottom end performance torque :-? ..........i think

run low boost until you can afford forged pistons, better management e.t.c.
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ok

Postby blitz on Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:51 pm

ok well if i get a rst engine who will fit the top half on or what ever is needed
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