Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6
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Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6
Alrighty, not seen this on this site before or anywhere else to be honest, but as i'm thinking of an engine swap from HCS to CVH, thought why not just go for a 1.8 out of a sierra/orion instead of a 1.6 from a fiesta.
I'm not cheating, but don't see point in researching it my self if someone else already has
1) Firstly is this possible?
2) Is my shopping list the same apart from the fact i need a 1.8 cvh rather than a 1.6
3) Anyone done this - any comment - pitfalls?
Cheers people.
Also looking into MadCat Craigs brake conversion. Nice one fella!
Ste
I'm not cheating, but don't see point in researching it my self if someone else already has
1) Firstly is this possible?
2) Is my shopping list the same apart from the fact i need a 1.8 cvh rather than a 1.6
3) Anyone done this - any comment - pitfalls?
Cheers people.
Also looking into MadCat Craigs brake conversion. Nice one fella!
Ste
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Re: Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6
ste_rich :pitfalls?
Not done it but everything I've read says "don't".
I think a 1.6 inj is more gutsy than the carb 1.8?
Specialised Engine's 1.9 seems a much better bet for big CVHs...
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ste_rich :so the comparison should be 1.6 carb Vs. 1.8 carb
Surely the 1.8 must have more power/torque???
I'm not talking about spending big bucks either
Sierra 1.8 was fore/aft mounted so that would go against it even if nothing else did. Its also an economy design as opposed to the XR2 / 1.6s engine. I don't know, but on the 1.8 I guess you'd be changing (at least)
sump
g/box
flywheel
clutch
carb (for a transverse mount one)
alternator...
I don't know nearly enough about the 1.8 but I'd have thought a mk3 1.6s engine + box would be the easiest / cheapest option?
Someone who knows more help out here!
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Being the Sierra 1.8 is 90bhp and the 1.6s/XR2 is also 90bhp there doesnt seem much point in using the 1.8
I also read somewhere the 1.8 was a slightly different design and not as tunable.
Where as the 1.6 from the XR2 & 1.6's can be boosted to 96bhp just by fitting an older XR2 carb instead of the later ones.
I also read somewhere the 1.8 was a slightly different design and not as tunable.
Where as the 1.6 from the XR2 & 1.6's can be boosted to 96bhp just by fitting an older XR2 carb instead of the later ones.
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Re: Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6
ste_rich : thought why not just go for a 1.8 out of a sierra/orion instead of a 1.6 from a fiesta.
Was there a 1.8 cvh in a orion ?????
The 1.8 of a sierra is a bit different.. but has the same base ..(it isn't placed transeverse.. has some other pullies etc.. )
guess it weighs more too (-:
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a guy i know used a sierra 1.8 bottom end in his ERST
1.8 bottom end with his ERST head
his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler
dunno wot pistons he used
1.8 bottom end with his ERST head
his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler
dunno wot pistons he used
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Ben from Performance Ford is in the process of doing a 1.8 cvh Turbo for the XR2. Ferriday Engineering use the 1.8 cvh and convert it all for ya. Prob best to phone em as I dont really know this conversion to well. 01785 621710
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MadcatCraig :a guy i know used a sierra 1.8 bottom end in his ERST
1.8 bottom end with his ERST head
his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler
dunno wot pistons he used
hmmz.. i managed to get nearly 180 BHP with a 1.6 with just under 1 bar of boost (on the T2) and the standard intercooler..
so if mine should run: T3, and GRS intercooler the 200BHP would be no problem .. still beïng a 1.6
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Jur :MadcatCraig :a guy i know used a sierra 1.8 bottom end in his ERST
1.8 bottom end with his ERST head
his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler
dunno wot pistons he used
hmmz.. i managed to get nearly 180 BHP with a 1.6 with just under 1 bar of boost (on the T2) and the standard intercooler..
so if mine should run: T3, and GRS intercooler the 200BHP would be no problem .. still beïng a 1.6
you can get 250bhp out of a 1.6 cvh
but thats got fook all to do with the question
in your fiesta if you put on a T3 and a grs cooler you woul not get 200 bhp from a 1.6 its just not that simple.
the increased displacement of an 1800 has its advantages. However it also has its disadvantages such as stroke piston availability etc.
180bhp with a std intercooler is very hard to believe !
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