[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/bbcode.php on line 191: Undefined array key 2
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4336: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/functions.php:3825)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4338: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/functions.php:3825)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4339: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/functions.php:3825)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /includes/functions.php on line 4340: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /includes/functions.php:3825)
Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6 : Tuning / Handling / Braking | Fiesta Forums

Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6

CVH and Zetec tuning, suspension and braking mods.

Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6

Postby ste_rich on Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:20 pm

Alrighty, not seen this on this site before or anywhere else to be honest, but as i'm thinking of an engine swap from HCS to CVH, thought why not just go for a 1.8 out of a sierra/orion instead of a 1.6 from a fiesta.

I'm not cheating, but don't see point in researching it my self if someone else already has :D

1) Firstly is this possible?
2) Is my shopping list the same apart from the fact i need a 1.8 cvh rather than a 1.6
3) Anyone done this - any comment - pitfalls?

Cheers people.

Also looking into MadCat Craigs brake conversion. Nice one fella! :wink:

Ste
ste_rich
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 309
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Leeds

Re: Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6

Postby df908 on Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:21 pm

ste_rich :pitfalls?


Not done it but everything I've read says "don't".

I think a 1.6 inj is more gutsy than the carb 1.8?

Specialised Engine's 1.9 seems a much better bet for big CVHs... :)
Nige

'94 mondeo. Pass the mortgage, son.

Hmm... what... eh?
Image
df908
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 845
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2002 9:51 am
Location: Sarfampton

Postby ste_rich on Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:04 pm

I'm on about fitting a 1.6 carb or 1.8 carb

so the comparison should be 1.6 carb Vs. 1.8 carb

Surely the 1.8 must have more power/torque???


I'm not talking about spending big bucks either
ste_rich
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 309
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Leeds

Postby df908 on Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:11 pm

ste_rich :so the comparison should be 1.6 carb Vs. 1.8 carb

Surely the 1.8 must have more power/torque???

I'm not talking about spending big bucks either


Sierra 1.8 was fore/aft mounted so that would go against it even if nothing else did. Its also an economy design as opposed to the XR2 / 1.6s engine. I don't know, but on the 1.8 I guess you'd be changing (at least)

sump
g/box
flywheel
clutch
carb (for a transverse mount one)
alternator...

I don't know nearly enough about the 1.8 but I'd have thought a mk3 1.6s engine + box would be the easiest / cheapest option?


Someone who knows more help out here!
Nige

'94 mondeo. Pass the mortgage, son.

Hmm... what... eh?
Image
df908
Post Master
Post Master
 
Posts: 845
Joined: Fri Nov 22, 2002 9:51 am
Location: Sarfampton

Postby Stoned on Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:53 pm

Being the Sierra 1.8 is 90bhp and the 1.6s/XR2 is also 90bhp there doesnt seem much point in using the 1.8

I also read somewhere the 1.8 was a slightly different design and not as tunable.
Where as the 1.6 from the XR2 & 1.6's can be boosted to 96bhp just by fitting an older XR2 carb instead of the later ones.
Stoned
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 8944
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 10:46 pm
Location: Portsmouth

Re: Fitting a 1.8 cvh rather than 1.6

Postby Jur on Thu Aug 21, 2003 10:28 am

ste_rich : thought why not just go for a 1.8 out of a sierra/orion instead of a 1.6 from a fiesta.



Was there a 1.8 cvh in a orion ?????

The 1.8 of a sierra is a bit different.. but has the same base ..(it isn't placed transeverse.. has some other pullies etc.. )

guess it weighs more too (-:
Image
*If you start to see in Black and White, you know you're pulling enough G's*
Jur
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1512
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2002 7:53 am
Location: Holland

Postby ste_rich on Thu Aug 21, 2003 12:15 pm

you are right about the orion it has an 1.6 efi cvh, but i don't want to go down that route i was just confused in thinking it had a 1.8.

Cool nice one lads ... you don't know unless you ask do ya?!
ste_rich
Senior Poster
Senior Poster
 
Posts: 309
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Leeds

Postby MadcatCraig on Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:08 pm

a guy i know used a sierra 1.8 bottom end in his ERST

1.8 bottom end with his ERST head

his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler

dunno wot pistons he used
Image
MadcatCraig
BANNED SELLER
 
Posts: 4035
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Bristol

Postby Andy.B on Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:16 pm

Ben from Performance Ford is in the process of doing a 1.8 cvh Turbo for the XR2. Ferriday Engineering use the 1.8 cvh and convert it all for ya. Prob best to phone em as I dont really know this conversion to well. 01785 621710 :D
Image
Andy.B
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1434
Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Deeper Underground

Postby Jur on Mon Aug 25, 2003 2:38 pm

MadcatCraig :a guy i know used a sierra 1.8 bottom end in his ERST

1.8 bottom end with his ERST head

his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler

dunno wot pistons he used

hmmz.. i managed to get nearly 180 BHP with a 1.6 with just under 1 bar of boost (on the T2) and the standard intercooler..

so if mine should run: T3, and GRS intercooler the 200BHP would be no problem .. still beïng a 1.6
Image
*If you start to see in Black and White, you know you're pulling enough G's*
Jur
Elite Post Master
Elite Post Master
 
Posts: 1512
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2002 7:53 am
Location: Holland

Postby MadcatCraig on Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:34 pm

Jur :
MadcatCraig :a guy i know used a sierra 1.8 bottom end in his ERST

1.8 bottom end with his ERST head

his made 196bhp with just over a bar of boost and a GRS cooler

dunno wot pistons he used

hmmz.. i managed to get nearly 180 BHP with a 1.6 with just under 1 bar of boost (on the T2) and the standard intercooler..

so if mine should run: T3, and GRS intercooler the 200BHP would be no problem .. still beïng a 1.6


you can get 250bhp out of a 1.6 cvh

but thats got fook all to do with the question

in your fiesta if you put on a T3 and a grs cooler you woul not get 200 bhp from a 1.6 its just not that simple.

the increased displacement of an 1800 has its advantages. However it also has its disadvantages such as stroke piston availability etc.

180bhp with a std intercooler is very hard to believe !
Image
MadcatCraig
BANNED SELLER
 
Posts: 4035
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Bristol

Postby snake on Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:31 pm

1.8 head is absolutly crap, bottom end is ok, mite be worth researching piston bore thickness b4 turbo`in but be fine for n/a
Image
snake
Trainee Burger Flipper
Trainee Burger Flipper
 
Posts: 5676
Joined: Fri May 19, 2000 1:00 am
Location: Hereford!
Your car: ford


cron

Twitter

The second 20th Anniversary article, a dive into the history of how the site came about is available here: https://t.co/kbCfZ4sf0R

17:44, 4th December 2021 Twitter Web App

To celebrate https://t.co/wXVkvJipaS being 20 years old this year, I've written a series of articles detailing the… https://t.co/B0vE0Y3KvP

17:42, 4th December 2021 Twitter Web App

Follow fiestaturbo.com on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/fiestaturbo/

RSS Feeds

Subscribe to the RSS feed

What is RSS?

RSS is a technology that lets you use special applications or modern browsers to notify you you when a site is updated. You can then read the updated content in that application or your browser.

To subscribe to these RSS feeds you need to copy the links above. For instructions on how to add it to the feeds you keep track of, consult the documentation of your RSS reader.