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front arms, talk to me

Postby lee si on Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:17 pm

put pattern part front arms on my fiesta 50 miles ago and there raped already

so, i wanted this sorted for good now.
i went on area 6, they do camber adjustable ones for 130 squid, are these just pattern parts that have been driled out, or genuine ford ones.

i spke to ford, they want £100 for a pair of arms,
or i can get poly bushes for 90 quid,

can you fit pollybushes into pattern front arms, or do you need to fit them into genuine arms.???????

what have you lot done to solve the front arm eating problem, and im board of getting new tyres every month :(
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Postby JPXR2I:16v on Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:45 pm

i need some new arms to mate for my rs turbo

ive been looking at defex arms 179.99 but some people of here dont rate the service etc

the ford standard 1s last longer in my eyes,the copy 1s from auotfactors are ok but dont last 5 mins

any more adivse for us both on some good bottom arms :D
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Postby Mikee_RS on Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:00 pm

yeh deflex are s**t

i have genuine ford lower arms ( i get a discount at ford) with the standard bushes replaced by powerflex items

if u do get polybushes, u need to get them professionally pushed into the lower arm. any garage should be able to do this for u
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Re: front arms, talk to me

Postby TIL13R on Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:35 pm

Mikee_RS :yeh deflex are poo


I disagree.........

have got them on mine and i really like them..... also got there gearbox mounts too!

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Postby Mikee_RS on Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:40 pm

TIL13R :
Mikee_RS :yeh deflex are poo


I disagree.........

have got them on mine and i really like them..... also got there gearbox mounts too!

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Postby heeman10 on Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:08 pm

Tuning, Handling and Braking forum next time please :)
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Postby Mikee_RS on Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:09 pm

change the record :P
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Re: front arms, talk to me

Postby luca on Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:19 pm

If you want a good handling car- set up front end to elimante tyre wear and bushing wear...

buy the rose jointed adjustable lower arms from area - six..

yes you pay alot for them but the benefits are alot too gain..

less tyre wear...for starters, more grip, faster accleration, better cornering, better stability and your wallet is not busted every month for new tyres and lower arms...

I can highly recommend them...

if the rose joint bearing does wear.. its like £20 for a new one... although i have sourced for cheaper... :D
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Postby Ojc on Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:40 pm

I fitted genuine Ford ones the other month, coupled with it being lowered 40mm am I likely to be replacing them every few thousand miles?
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Postby luca on Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:34 pm

what you need to consider is that as standard the car sits at a desired height from factory....

this is basically so thatt the geomtry works to how it was designed..

when you lower the car the wheel stays fixed on its axis so will without doubt camber towards the inside of the arch, it does this due to the lower arm being put a tighter angle as the shock is forcing it to do so..

The bushes therfore are at an angle also...

take a look at a standard unlowered fiesta then at one lowered from the front underneath...

the lowered ones arms are at a steep angle, thats why the bushes wear and cause the inside edge of the tyres.

Putting adjustable lower arms will alter that angle and give the tyre a better footing on the road and reduce the amount of stress on the bushing or rose joint etc. It still sits at an angle but not as much and without the side effect of new tyres every month or two.
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Postby gdgd on Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:18 am

I'm glad i just read this cos the inside of my tyres are worn down to nothing... again :x

In the summer I changed the following..arb bushes,drop links and lower arms,then new tyres and the tracking done.
All these parts were changed because of a knocking noise and it solved the problem :)

Anyway i had to jack up the car the other day and noticed the tyres were bald again...they have only been on about 8-9 weeks!!! i thought maybe it was the trackrod ends cos these wer'nt changed plus the camber is very bad too,it makes the tyres look flat all the time
so i'm glad i read this.....but whats the best lower arms to get,also what about changing the track rod ends???
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Postby lee si on Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:45 pm

so those of you with genuine ford arms, are you still going through them quickly and suffering s**t tyre wear?

and what about these camber adjustable area 6 ones, the non rose jointed ones? do they wear out quickly, start to get very board with this constant problems with front suspension
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Postby purple_fiesta on Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:42 pm

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Postby jayrs on Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:46 pm

i gen use QH arms, as good as ford imo.

i had a unipart one on there for 5 years, ok i had to change the ball joint but it lasted bloody well, i was shocked as i thinking unipart stuff is dog $hit, but i got it cheap through a mate that worked at a motor factors at the time as it was needed for mot.


im not going to disagree with anyone on these area siz jobbies etc, but all i will say is what is the point for a road car, if you can fcuk a pair of bottom arms in no time then you got to look at what is making them get b0llocked out, may the car is too low, you drive down dirt tracks fast etc etc
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Postby luca on Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:57 pm

you see i have blinkers on....

a fiesta is for the track and nothing else :lol: :lol: :lol:

strip it out, lower it fancy arms and fast engine....

sorted lol.....

the above info is the truth from jayrs and for track use from me...
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Postby jayrs on Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:12 pm

m4dyeti :you see i have blinkers on....

a fiesta is for the track and nothing else :lol: :lol: :lol:

strip it out, lower it fancy arms and fast engine....

sorted lol.....

the above info is the truth from jayrs and for track use from me...


i would still use normal ons on the track mate :lol: :lol:

mind you being a engineer i would make my own arms up rather than pay someone else for theres :lol:

*awaits clark to step in and call me a tight c""t *
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Postby gdgd on Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:32 pm

The arms on mine( rs1800 ) were ford arms, then i put on a pair from our local auto parts now i'm back to more inner wear again :-? my car is all standard and is just a back and for to work car, so no ragging it about :lol:
I'm just not sure what to put on it to stop the damn tyre wear!!! Would changing the track rod ends help too.?
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Postby jayrs on Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:54 pm

if there rod ends are naff yeah it will help, is the rack in good shape?

it is poss the ball joints are naffed, i had a bottom arm from fords, gen ford part too, a week later it was fcuked, they swapped it over no probs as it was a fault with it, you may have the same problem, check them
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Postby slaney21 on Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:52 pm

i got a new set of autofactor style arms for my 2i about 2 months ago and both look as though they need replacing already..!!

can anybody recommend what they powerflex bush things are like?? worth getting?
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Postby jayrs on Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:11 pm

they say they are, i have some old arms i can remove the ball joint and the old bushes from and sell to someone if it makes there job easy :lol:
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Re: front arms, talk to me

Postby andymac on Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:14 pm

Moved from General.

Lee, please read the posting guidelines dude, next time I might hit delete "by accident" :P

Everyone else, no feding the trolls :x

And not necessarily on the thread
Nothing to see here...
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Postby jayrs on Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:42 pm

:lol: :lol: trolls :lol:
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Postby lee si on Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:14 pm

sowwie andymac :( my bad

so the general consensus is, ford ones might last me a year, then ill buy poly bushed for them and do the camber mod, im not paying some one to drill out 3 rivets and open some holes up.


thanks for all the replys.

do unipart have a website? wouldnt mind not spneding £110 tbh on gen parts lol

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Postby jayrs on Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:23 pm

yeah they prob do, but dont get unipart, if you got patten part, at lease get a good make pattern part like QH
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Postby andyc9892 on Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:57 pm

so wots the verdict on this then, [ERRR] this is next on my list to do when i get me car back, i was thinking of going for this i saw on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=012
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Re: front arms, talk to me

Postby j7aoc on Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:41 pm

Deflex engine mounts can snap so i won't want to try lower arms just in case the wheel comes off :lol: :lol:
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