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Postby MAD_Adamski on Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:43 pm

said before paul looks great :) some aspects i wish i'd have done to mine :) curious on the cooler tho single pass?? also you not think on going a slightly thicker core?? surely with a thicker core there would not have been such a need for the size??? i always got told the thicker cores were better than the thin ones as it coolers the air better :) ???

just curious :wink: :P

pic of mine below as you did speak to me before about my system its a 63mm thick core unsure on the height and length its been a while but the act's are LOW

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Postby heeman10 on Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:56 pm

All looks spanking, green and black looks sharp :aviator:

Ad - A thick, larrrrge twin pass would be silly, however a thick core with large surface area working as a single pass is a good way to do things. Until you've calculate flow rates and temperature drops it's hard to pick out one intercooler as being more efficient than another, or how much it affects the pressure, it all depends on the core used :)
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Postby MAD_Adamski on Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:10 pm

heeman10 wrote:All looks spanking, green and black looks sharp :aviator:

Ad - A thick, larrrrge twin pass would be silly, however a thick core with large surface area working as a single pass is a good way to do things. Until you've calculate flow rates and temperature drops it's hard to pick out one intercooler as being more efficient than another, or how much it affects the pressure, it all depends on the core used :)


undoubtably bro :D i'm by far no pro or phycisian thats why i asked pauls theory? :) curious i may learn something :wink: :D

thats the clever thing you see like you james, you studied car stuff i'm a qualified chef really so i learn what i can about cars on the net off you lot :D
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:28 pm

Well if you get to a show some time I'll tell you about intercoolers and motor cars, you can tell me about fish and chips, and being as straight as a boomerang.
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Postby D.J on Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:08 am

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I think what makes it look bigger, is that there is a large chunk of the bonnet missing, from the swage line down...

Looks good though

BTW, it's still a fookin huge cooler!!!!!
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Postby ianFRST on Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:29 am

heeman10 wrote:Well if you get to a show some time I'll tell you about intercoolers and motor cars, you can tell me about fish and chips, and being as straight as a boomerang.


man, i wana be in on that conversation :lol: :lol: :lol: :bonkers:
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Postby MAD_Adamski on Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:51 am

ianFRST wrote:
heeman10 wrote:Well if you get to a show some time I'll tell you about intercoolers and motor cars, you can tell me about fish and chips, and being as straight as a boomerang.


man, i wana be in on that conversation :lol: :lol: :lol: :bonkers:


i'll rock your world with my fish knowledge :lol:
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Postby GavStyli on Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:34 am

nice one paul, looks errr BIG lol :lol: hope its performs as well as it looks :)
adam i reckon you should share your knowledge of chips too ;) bet your the don with those :lol: would put sheman to shame :Q
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Postby ianFRST on Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:45 am

adamski frst wrote:
ianFRST wrote:
heeman10 wrote:Well if you get to a show some time I'll tell you about intercoolers and motor cars, you can tell me about fish and chips, and being as straight as a boomerang.


man, i wana be in on that conversation :lol: :lol: :lol: :bonkers:


i'll rock your world with my fish knowledge :lol:


im in :lol: :lol:
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Postby knuckles on Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:45 pm

One question....

How does the radiator keep the engine cool if you block the air flow completely with that massive intercooler ?

I presume u keep the fan on permanently :-?
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Postby Paul R on Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:55 pm

Nice work Paul love the prep inside :o :Q

Apart from the number plate its a far cry from my old Fiesta now :lol:

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Postby ~S1~ on Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:02 pm

Paul R wrote:Nice work Paul love the prep inside :o :Q

Apart from the number plate its a far cry from my old Fiesta now :lol:

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Even that will be gone soon :D
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Postby Paul R on Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:18 pm

Good move :)
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Postby pornstar! on Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:20 pm

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Postby Excursion on Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:05 pm

Excellent project this one :)
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Postby TomRS1800 on Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:07 am

CharlieT wrote:i don't like it sorry, car looks amazing but that intercooler ruins it :(


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Postby Brammer on Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:43 am

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Postby ianFRST on Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:36 am

TomRS1800 wrote:
CharlieT wrote:i don't like it sorry, car looks amazing but that intercooler ruins it :(


There's always one rotten apple on the barrell


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Postby XR_Ben on Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:57 am

Car is looking awesome so far :Q Top work Image


Oh, just so you know, that was me in the grey Focus you were stuck behind till Woodham yesterday! :lol: I would have done the universal hello of sticking my thumb up or somthing, but you'd probably think i was some scally after a race or something :bonkers: :lol: The RS sounded good when you shot past, i assume it's not standard anymore :D

Anyway, reminded me to check out the Festa on here, see how that was going!
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Postby freak power on Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:50 pm

:o Nice work
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:01 pm

Hi Paul, its Franco!

Isnt that intercooler overkill? I remember back in the days when the GRS one came out......... Alot of people thought THAT was overkill! :o
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:06 pm

Oh sod off you loser!
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:11 pm

heeman10 wrote:Oh sod off you loser!


SHHHAAAAATTTTTTTTT IIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT............. :lol:

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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:23 pm

:lol: Poor little boy. Are you referring to his strut? Or his dump? :D

Regarding Paul's cooler...as long as it doesn't give higher charge temps or increase the pressure drop, it's worth it. It all depends on the cores and end tanks :)
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:27 pm

heeman10 wrote::Regarding Paul's cooler...as long as it doesn't give higher charge temps or a lower pressure drop, it's worth it. It all depends on the cores and end tanks :)


Yes but it makes more work for him with little (if any) improvement/ effect, as the car came with a GRS fitted.

This was proven to handle it & no doubt would still do the biz for a long while yet!

Oh and then theres the pipework routing which needs to be changed. I would have thought it to be easier all round to turn the GRS into a single pass! :wink:
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:29 pm

More work for little effect? That's the basis of motor sport and performance improvement matey :) Running the GRS core as a single pass would probably be a bad idea and result in significantly higher ACTs.
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:33 pm

heeman10 wrote:More work for little effect? That's the basis of motor sport and performance improvement matey :) Running the GRS core as a single pass would probably be a bad idea and result in significantly higher ACTs.


Sorry but doesnt the bonnet block the EXTRA part of that intercooler? So in theory a wasted effort.

The GRS had more surface area exposed.

But then what would i know about fiesta's :rolleyes:
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:36 pm

Exposed surface area makes a heat transfer much more effective, obviously, but there's still scope for heat transfer in the hidden section, though I suspect Paul may do something to help things in that area.

*Re-think*

On second thoughts, WTF are you on about?

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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:40 pm

heeman10 wrote:Exposed surface area makes a heat transfer much more effective, obviously, but there's still scope for heat transfer in the hidden section, though I suspect Paul may do something to help things in that area.

*Re-think*

On second thoughts, WTF are you on about?

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Ahh missed that pic, i was looking at Ade's pic. :lol:

Oh and we looked at mounting the GRS lower down (even had the pipes re positioned by Graham) but it was far to low for my liking..........

One 'off' on track & its would be buggered!

Still think its overkill esp if said engines staying the same!


Ps Paul, if anybody refers to that being Paul Ripleys old car..........I'd be a monkeys uncle! :lol:
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:44 pm

You clearly don't understand! You know what this car was built to do - go up the strip quickly, so any gains that can be made are not lost causes. Add together such things as 200g lost by gutting the front bumper (guessed figure), 50g by trimming the dash (guess), a 3 degree drop in ACTs (guess), manually controlled fan to stop current draw, polycarb windows, GRP tailgate and bonnet etc...and you come out with a number of improvements that WILL help the car accelerate better. If you're going to say "It won't help much, I won't bother doing that", you'll make no gains.
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:48 pm

heeman10 wrote:You clearly don't understand! You know what this car was built to do - go up the strip quickly, so any gains that can be made are not lost causes. Add together such things as 200g lost by gutting the front bumper (guessed figure), 50g by trimming the dash (guess), a 3 degree drop in ACTs (guess), manually controlled fan to stop current draw, polycarb windows, GRP tailgate and bonnet etc...and you come out with a number of improvements that WILL help the car accelerate better. If you're going to say "It won't help much, I won't bother doing that", you'll make no gains.


WTF has any of that got to do with the intercooler??

All of the cosmetic/weight mods will help no end, but then i do believe the car had the right balance when Ripley had it.

Jesus now i remember why we lost the love for this site. :rolleyes:

Have fun Paul. :wink:
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:51 pm

C8 RST wrote:WTF has any of that got to do with the intercooler??

It's all perfectly relevant because you were saying you thought there seemed to be little point in looking for improvements with the intercooler as there were no major gains to be had over the GRS. I'm saying any gain is one worth making, be it in terms of lowered ACTs or reduced car weight, however small that gain may be.

None of this is personal dude, just as in the PF thread, I don't know why you've suddenly got your back up :-? No bad beans as far as I'm concerned...you asked questions, made statements, I came back with my own. I didn't make fun of your clothes!!!
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:56 pm

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C8 RST wrote:WTF has any of that got to do with the intercooler??

It's all perfectly relevant because you were saying you thought there seemed to be little point in looking for improvements with the intercooler as there were no major gains to be had over the GRS. I'm saying any gain is one worth making, be it in terms of lowered ACTs or reduced car weight, however small that gain may be.


Yes but as far as i'm aware Paul isnt doing anything else to the engine, its as it was before.

So in MY EYES ONLY he's made it so much quicker by removing all that he has!

The only way to tell would be a back to back test on them both! :aviator:
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Postby heeman10 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:59 pm

Yeah that's right, the engine will stay as it is spec-wise :) It sounded like there were one or two holes in the map in a video I watched of Ripley blasting up Brunters, so maybe someone will run around in it to check the map's sweet, and possibly a boost tweak...dunno. It'd be very interesting to leave the engine as is and get times with full interior, standard panels/glass and GRS etc, then times with it stripped and in the form it's in now...not sure Paul would be up for the hours necessary to swap from road to race though :lol: Maybe he'd let us blunder into his garage with screwdrivers and save him the hassle :)
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Postby C8 RST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:02 pm

heeman10 wrote:Yeah that's right, the engine will stay as it is spec-wise :) It sounded like there were one or two holes in the map in a video I watched of Ripley blasting up Brunters, so maybe someone will run around in it to check the map's sweet, and possibly a boost tweak...dunno. It'd be very interesting to leave the engine as is and get times with full interior, standard panels/glass and GRS etc, then times with it stripped and in the form it's in now...not sure Paul would be up for the hours necessary to swap from road to race though :lol: Maybe he'd let us blunder into his garage with screwdrivers and save him the hassle :)


Not holes in the map mate, ahmed MADE it like that for traction! i cant see ahmed getting it wrong! :wink:

PS i have some wicked incar footage from brunters when Paul R gave his famour WAR CRY! :lol:
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