Having the flywheel lightened

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Having the flywheel lightened

Postby Stoned on Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:50 pm

Anyone had this done?

I believe Specialised Engines will do this but I have emailed them to check.
I was looking to get mine lightened and balenced for better acceleration.

What are the pro's and con's?

Alternativly can you just buy lightened flywheels and have those fitted straight on?

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Postby zetec_si on Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:08 pm

I wanted one too but found out it was too expensive to do just yet.

Main reason I wanted it was for the sound of a fast reving engine! :D
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Postby Stoned on Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:12 pm

That would be nice, but I just really want a faster engine off boost and when acclerating hard in 2nd-3rd

How much were you quoted mate?
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Postby Escort Cos on Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:23 pm

I remember Burton Power quoted me £70 to do mine.
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Postby Stoned on Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:40 pm

Thanks, although I dont live very close to them I'll send them an email and see if they can do it on sameday basis.
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Postby Escort Cos on Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:43 pm

Doubt very much they do a same day service. Best to buy another second hand fly and send that off to em.

On that note, is an Escort Series 2 fly the same as a fez.
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Postby MOONDUST FRST on Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:14 pm

no i think the fezzy one has somekind of marking on it for the crank position sensor :-?
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Postby snake on Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:12 pm

pros, urm not really needed, if ur gonna get one get a steel flywheel

think of inertia, go to light and you`ll reduce drivabilty big time, also risk of the thing exploding esp if u do standing starts never really recommend it, always recommend steel flywheel, not really worth gettin it balanced without the rest of the bottom end aswell, waste of time
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Postby Stoned on Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:56 pm

Is a steel flywheel much lighter then?

A friend of mine has a tuned 3.0 V6 Calibra and having the flywheel lightened on that made a lot of difference to the acceleration, especially in the lower gears.

If the steel flywheel is lighter and would make the same difference I shall look at one of these instead.
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Postby xrsi on Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:14 pm

where could u get steel flywheel?
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Postby snake on Mon Sep 01, 2003 10:35 pm

burtons, off the shelf for cars without cps, they will make u one for extra if u do have a cps, not alot more i don`t think as i`ve enquired b4 about them.
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Postby Stoned on Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:05 am

Thanks for your help Snake

The crank position sensor, would a Fiesta turbo have one, and would I need one?

Does the flywheel directly effect what clutch I will be able to have in future?
I want to upgrade my clutch to an AP racing organic version soon as mine slips quite a bit so I would need to know that the steel flywheel would work for that too.
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Postby AdrianFRST on Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:49 am

Stoned :The crank position sensor, would a Fiesta turbo have one, and would I need one?


Yes and yes.

Stoned :Does the flywheel directly effect what clutch I will be able to have in future?


Only if you go for something non-standard to the Fiesta.

Stoned :I want to upgrade my clutch to an AP racing organic version soon as mine slips quite a bit so I would need to know that the steel flywheel would work for that too.


As long as the flywheel is the physically the same as the FRST one, you'll be able to use any clutch designed for the FRST.
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Postby Stoned on Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:07 am

Thanks Ade :Q

I dont suppose anyone would know how much a normal Fiesta flywheel weighs?

Burton Power sells a steel one that weighs 3.8kg or 6.5kg including ring gear.
I dont know if I would need a new ring gear or not.

But either way 3.8kg sounds pretty light!
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Postby snake on Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:15 pm

think they do one for 7.25 sintered clutch and one for oe clutch, liter one bein for sintered clutch(ie paddle). u can use the ring gear off your old fly if need be, confirm with burtons though that oe ring gear will fit it.
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Postby MIK3Y on Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:39 pm

So u can't use the lighter (sintered clutch) version with a AP organic clutch only paddle?
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Postby snake on Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:10 pm

MIK3Y :So u can't use the lighter (sintered clutch) version with a AP organic clutch only paddle?


thats if its for the 7.25 clutch, lol i can`t remember off the top of my head but do know they do one for 7.25 clutches, and nope ap organic will not fit a flywheel designed for 7.25 sintered clutch
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Postby MadcatCraig on Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:21 am

i had mine lightened and balanced with my crank and rods.

they basicaly drilled loads of holes round the outside the cps picks up off the middle of the flywheel. Cant say i noticed any major difference as my new engine is better than my old one in every way :D
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Postby Ben_frst on Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:38 am

stoned ur from pompey go 2 solent race and rally speak 2 the old dude in their get ur crank de-webbed and balanced he can probably sort ur flywheel 2 if not try regal motorsport
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Postby Stoned on Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:26 am

Dont Regal only deal with Vauxhalls?

Thats where my mate took his Calibra too have all his work done.

I'll look up the solent race and rally angle tonight.

Snake, spoke to Burton Power and they can lighten my existing flywheel but they dont do a steel version due to the sensor. Seems a bit odd considering they list a steel flywheel under the Fiesta turbo section!

I'm not entirely sure what to do at this point.
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Postby MIK3Y on Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:43 am

Just get it skimmed then (lightened) but not too extreme to keep it's strength.

Don't u have to have ur flywheel skimmed/lightened to fit a performance clutch properly anyway?
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Postby snake on Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:03 pm

lol i wouldn`t be too fussed about a liteweight flywheel unless your tracking it anyway, and yeah flywheel [ERRR] be surface skimmed for a new clutch, its vital on paddle clutch. hmm that is odd!, yeah i got a quote for a cvh efi one a while ago and sed they would make one up for me if i wanted it, so dunno.. i`m waiting for mate to send me a website addy that does sell zetec steel flywheels
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Postby Stoned on Thu Sep 04, 2003 9:18 pm

Well I am getting Dave at Pumaracing to lighten a flywheel for me. He will sell me his old one for £30, lighten and balence it and then sell it to me for £100

mint!

Mine will be a fast FRST yet :wink:
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Postby Jur on Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:02 am

Escort Cos :Doubt very much they do a same day service. Best to buy another second hand fly and send that off to em.

On that note, is an Escort Series 2 fly the same as a fez.


Escort doens't have a Crank position sensor on the flywheel.. ( the squares on the rim of the back of the flywheel)

PLEASE don't get them machined off.. they manage the ignition timing..

They did machine mine off.. the flywheel wasn't useable for the FRST anymore.. so i had to sell it.. for ERST use (-:
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Postby Stoned on Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:04 am

Dont worry Jur, Dave at Pumaracing knows what he is doing :)

BTW I am selling the intercooler soon if you are still interested?
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Postby Jur on Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:07 am

still interested (-:
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