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HCS

Postby white diamond on Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:52 pm

Has anyone done anyting to their hcs engine to give it a bit more poke? Or is there anything to do to give it some more power?
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Re: HCS

Postby Chris 2i on Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:37 pm

give it a damn good service and maybe drill the airbox - it's really not worth spending money on anything more.
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Re: HCS

Postby M1K3Y_B on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:54 pm

I put a K&N air filter and a peco back box on my car, made it marginally faster, but you can't expect a lot from a 1.1 which is over 11 years old, only option really is a bigger enginer :)
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Re: HCS

Postby white diamond on Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:14 am

Yeah i have given it a good service. Flushed the engine out, new oil + filter, plugs, leads, fuel filter, flushed the radiator through aswel added new collant. Tappets have been adjust which is much quiter now.

Iv got a powerflow back box and it doesnt really sound much louder only a little bit and iv extended the cold air feed pipe.

Would a de-cat pipe make much difference?

And is it possible to increase the fuel pressure on these engines?
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:21 pm

dont bother with the extra mods i had a 1.1 fez spent about 300 pound on the engine i got a kent cam and and fitted k&n pepco system and fitted irdium plugs and ran on vpower got it to go alot smoother and was a different car to drive but for the money buy an si engine and fit that and trust me ull smile from ear to ear

then after 2 yrs fit a 2.0 mondeo engine i urge u ive wasted nearly 2k on mods that werent worth it and i could have bought an imported impreza for the same amount or got a 106 ralley fitted jenvyes and taken it to 170bhp lol
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Re: HCS

Postby M1K3Y_B on Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:25 am

A decat might help but it would fail te MOT for not having one. :(

Its a 1.1 and you can't expect alot from it as i have already said, its prime days are long gone :P
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Re: HCS

Postby white diamond on Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:21 pm

mikey_b mines a 1.3

Was just wondering has anyone ever fitted a turbo to one of these engines?? Would like to see what it is like
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Re: HCS

Postby Chris 2i on Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:24 pm

white diamond :Yeah i have given it a good service. Flushed the engine out, new oil + filter, plugs, leads, fuel filter, flushed the radiator through aswel added new collant. Tappets have been adjust which is much quiter now.

Iv got a powerflow back box and it doesnt really sound much louder only a little bit and iv extended the cold air feed pipe.

Would a de-cat pipe make much difference?

And is it possible to increase the fuel pressure on these engines?


You've taken it as far as is economically viable mate. You could start doing head work, cam etc. but you'd spend more than you would by just dropping in a Zetec.

You could pick up a rotten 16v 2i for a couple of hundred quid and swap all the bits over, that way you'd have at least a 50% increase in power (more like 100%), a nice interior, bodykit etc.

Or you could spend the same amount of cash on gaining something like an extra 2bhp from the 1.1...

Trust me, it really isn't worth doing anything else.
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Re: HCS

Postby white diamond on Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:48 pm

Well when i have passed my test zetec will deffently be going in!!!!
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Re: HCS

Postby M1K3Y_B on Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:50 pm

There isn't much difference between the 1.1 and 1.3 engine anyway mate :P
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Re: HCS

Postby Chris 2i on Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:59 pm

white diamond :Well when i have passed my test zetec will deffently be going in!!!!


then concentrate on amassing the parts needed for that rather than modify the HCS, it'll save you a fortune in the long run. :)
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Re: HCS

Postby Tweek on Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:58 pm

The question gets asked soooo many times that if you searched you'd find plenty of results :lol:

I'll say the same as what I've put in all the other threads too, there's absolutely no chance of tuning the HCS, you could spend hundreds and get about 2BHP more if very lucky lol. Best mod for it is to bin the engine and put something else in :).
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Re: HCS

Postby white diamond on Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:45 pm

I was reading on a website about the hcs engine and it says there are low comp pistons avaivlbe for this engine if u wanted to turbo charge it. Is this true as i havent found any!
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:53 pm

u can get them boot why bother
ud get max of 130bhp before it goes bang
get a 2.0 mondeo lump turbo that instead or have it

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Re: HCS

Postby M1K3Y_B on Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:47 pm

I remember people on here going on about a car, that was a 1.1 that had everything done to it that you could think of and £1000s spent on it, it was as quick as XR2is but after a few months it when bang, because it couldn't cope. :(

Does anyone have a link to it, as i am sure it was on here?

I really wouldn't bother with doing anything else apart from the filter and a backbox that you have done, the 1.1/1.3s weren't designed to be tuned at the end of the day, as i have said already :P
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:14 pm

was my old car mate lol was a 1.1 with kent cams iridum plus, k&n, pepco, full syth oil new clutch, polsihed head rebuild head lol was rapid i raced a audi a8 lol may have been a disel but i beat him lol
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Re: HCS

Postby M1K3Y_B on Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:20 pm

Got pics pimp? :lol:
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:14 pm

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Re: HCS

Postby Nisi on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:03 am

i mite be buying the same k&n filter for my car for £32 and i have a 1.3 is there any point getting one or not
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:24 am

k&n yeh deffo sounded beautiful lol power wise poss made 0.8 bhp but the noise alone worth it lol i added a cold air feed (tumble dyer pipe) not worth it let me the past fool hcs are good solid engines not for big power just fun for running around
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Re: HCS

Postby Nisi on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:26 am

ok so is that a yes or no lol
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:30 am

filter yes

good service yes

new tyres and brakes yes

rebuild and turbo ect no lol

sorry if i confused you i said the same thing on ur blog
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Re: HCS

Postby Nisi on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:33 am

im only buying the bit in the blue box in the picture

were could i find the bit in the red box in the picture


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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:36 am

lol thats a cheap max power crank case breather lol doesnt add power just save running a hose to the k&n
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Re: HCS

Postby Nisi on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:37 am

worth getting one of those aswell or not
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:37 am

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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:38 am

yeh suppose lol looks good
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Re: HCS

Postby Nisi on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:38 am

cheers is it easy to fit
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:40 am

any good with a screw drive yeh lol 5 min job
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Re: HCS

Postby Tweek on Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:35 pm

HCS PIMP :u can get them boot why bother
ud get max of 130bhp before it goes bang
LOL! You'd get nowhere near that! maybe 60bhp from a 1.1, 70 from a 1.3 :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: HCS

Postby hb69 on Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:05 pm

Tweek :
HCS PIMP :u can get them boot why bother
ud get max of 130bhp before it goes bang
LOL! You'd get nowhere near that! maybe 60bhp from a 1.1, 70 from a 1.3 :lol: :lol: :lol:


I dont know where any of these bhp figures are coming from.

0.8bhp from fitting a k&n?
170bhp 106 rallye?
and so on. Estimated bhp increases arent worth the time of day, and those are so random is laughable.

For White Diamond, the best advise i can give you, to get any more performance from a 1.3 is to remove any excess weight in the car, this means seats,carpet,ICE,mats, the lot. Adding weight,like bigger wheels,subs and amps,xr2i bodykits will only slow you down. From experience removing all extra weight gives you a noticeably better power to weight,and does make the car feel quicker.
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Re: HCS

Postby HCS PIMP on Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:31 pm

i meant to type boosted ie turbo ive seen 1.1 8v pug make that with a kackered decomp plate
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Re: HCS

Postby white diamond on Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:32 pm

Iv got a K&N which i bought from halfords for £15 :wink: Now i need to get the crank case filter! I have a garrat turbo off a mk3 astra van 1.7 and i can get a manifold made for my car so one day i will try the turbo with a de comp plate see if it will actually work! what else would i need to do? Increase the fueling? Will need a custom inlet plenum?
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Re: HCS

Postby white diamond on Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:35 pm

HCS PIMP :was my old car mate lol was a 1.1 with kent cams iridum plus, k&n, pepco, full syth oil new clutch, polsihed head rebuild head lol was rapid i raced a audi a8 lol may have been a disel but i beat him lol


Any idea how much bhp increased?
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Re: HCS

Postby M1K3Y_B on Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:35 am

white diamond :Iv got a K&N which i bought from halfords for £15 :wink: Now i need to get the crank case filter!


You don't need a crank case filter thing, all you do is drill a hole in the bottom of the K&N filter, and put the already exsistant oil pipe into it, thats what the instructions say and it stops the stem valves drying out :P
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