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Postby TomRS1800 on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:25 pm

Stoned :Perhaps, but I'll still be faster :bonkers:


And even more sadly Im faster :P


Good stuff James a 1.8 Zt will be a good choice for a road weapon,not that your into that bthough but still a pleasing project to get on with :D


Good luck with it dear chap :)
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Postby TomRS1800 on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:28 pm

Stoned :Perhaps, but I'll still be faster :bonkers:


And even more sadly Im faster :P


Good stuff James a 1.8 Zt will be a good choice for a road weapon,not that your into that bthough but still a pleasing project to get on with :D


Good luck with it dear chap :)
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Postby Stoned on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:28 pm

Yeah true Tom :lol:

I really should fit that fuel pump and join you at 1 bar boost
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Postby TomRS1800 on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:48 pm

Stoned :Yeah true Tom :lol:

I really should fit that fuel pump and join you at 1 bar boost


Yup best thing you can do is get that pump in nd get a bar
But make sure you get a boost controller aswell safer mode of doing it :D Bleed valves are too tempting and hazardous to a Turbos health!
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Postby andyhardy on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:54 pm

Image... by Datsun owners! :o :cry:

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Postby Max M4X WW on Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:54 pm

Ah, Just read the posts that appeared while i was making my reply.

What engine does Mikee have then :-? :-? :-?
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Postby dannyboy on Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:08 pm

Are you doing the majority of the swap yourself? If so ill have to send you a few pm's about some bits that are pissing me off at the mo, changing engines is the easy bit :(
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:24 am

Ok, a few replies to...reply to :-?

andy - What's all this business about being used, and you being tight-assed? Please can you keep this sort of talk out of my thread? Thanks :)

Syorme - I rent myself nightly.

fiesta_turbo_daddy - I have a few ideas about where to mount the oil cooler, but have several other things to get set in stone before I make that decision. I wasn't aware of any issues with oil pressure? I'm using a sandwich plate with it too, to control when the oil will be sent through the cooler so it doesn't run too cold.

Tom - Living where I do, the opportunity to put it up against other cars hardly ever arises, but I don't mind seeing how it copes, so with the ZT it'll be no different, it'll get used ;) Also aim to get it to the thrash in York/Santa Pod, wherever it ends up being.

dannyboy - I'll be doing the pretty much everything myself unless some useful ppl volunteer! PM me anyway, what are you having probs with? I think you're right about the "putting the engine bit is easiest"...my conversion from diesel to turbo'd petrol will be the biggest of ass-biters in this conversion I think.

I'm not saying who the engine's from just yet, as he has his own plans to keep hush till they're done (hopefully within the next week or two), but I will post this scandalously incriminating pic, indicating his inspiration...left lying around in his boot!

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Postby Smo on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:24 am

Too easy :lol:
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Postby Gaz7 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:34 am

Nice choice of engine mate :)

Enjoy a petrol turbo for a change :)

Gareth :)
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Postby MAD_Adamski on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:53 am

know my thoughts good lad gimme a shout if u need help or advice :wink:
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:56 am

Petrol's going to be an even bigger and better step up from N/A diesel to the TDI, I just can't wait. I'm sure I'll be pestering EVERYONE for info when I get stuck into it, cheers for that ad :)
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Postby Xr_Dub on Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:45 am

wicked....

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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:22 am

The pic confuses me :-? Who's car?!
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:05 am

It's my car Max, surely you know it by now?!
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Postby RS_Rawli on Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:11 am

jim, get on msn
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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:16 am

You smoothing your bumpers?
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Postby RS_Rawli on Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:20 am

max, read the post propperly
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Postby Superal on Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:39 am

the car is the guy's he bought the engine from....

rawli when you gonna follow suit and get a zt :bonkers:
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:53 am

Max M4X WW :You smoothing your bumpers?

The first pic of the red car is mine.

The pic on Page 2 is of the luggage compartment of the car of the FT.com user from whom I purchased the engine.

Your name is Max, and you're retarded.

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Postby Tomdom on Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:03 pm

:lol:
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Postby Max M4X WW on Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:04 pm

Yes exactly, Who's is the 2nd car?
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Postby FezzR on Mon Dec 13, 2004 2:30 pm

Max M4X WW :Yes exactly, Who's is the 2nd car?

read the dam post
HE IS NOT SAYING BECAUSE THE OWNER DOESNT WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW
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Postby fiesta_turbo_daddy on Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:06 pm

orite, whats a samwich plate then :-? and did it come with the oilcooler or did you buy it separate :D
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Postby E$cobar on Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:53 pm

Have fun with it man :)
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:57 pm

Thanks for clearing that up FezzR! Max - he's asked me not to say who he is, but he'll be outing his own plans very shortly soon, and they're sweet :D

daddy (can I call you that? :lol:) - I bought the oil cooler separately, a Mocal 13 row cooler. I don't want anything to stop me using this engine when I want to, so I'll be having the biggest rad I can fit in amongst my intercooler plans, and the oil cooler will help keep everything cool on top of that.

With the water radiator, you have a thermostat which opens at certain temps (around 90 Celcius), because otherwise, when the engine isn't making much heat, it would still be sending the water through to the rad and the water would get too cold. The same applies with an oil cooler. If I didn't use the sandwich plate (explanation coming up later), then oil would permanently be flowing through it, and would run the risk of being overly-cooled as with the water without a thermostat.

The sandwich plate screws on where the Zetec's oil filter would usually go, and it incorporates a thermostat. This will only allow oil to pass through to the cooler at a pre-determined temperature. So one face screws into the block, and the other face is the same shape as the original block-oil filter mounting face, meaning the filter now screws onto the sandwich plate. Job done. Hope that explains it?
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Postby andyhardy on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:27 pm

On my CVH there is an oil cooler (albeit a much smaller and simpler one than yours) which the oil filter mounts to - I'm guessing that the sandwich plate for connecting up your oil cooler replaces this (as I know you can mount the oil filter directly to the block without the cooler part in place as well).

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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:36 pm

Yep :) I'll be mounting the cooler in as much air as I can, rather than leaving it tucked behind the engine where they always gets shoved on cars from the factory!
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Postby TomRS1800 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:37 pm

andyhardy :On my CVH there is an oil cooler (albeit a much smaller and simpler one than yours) which the oil filter mounts to - I'm guessing that the sandwich plate for connecting up your oil cooler replaces this (as I know you can mount the oil filter directly to the block without the cooler part in place as well).

Cheers,

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Persoanlly Id put it somewhere a lot cooler than that Andy. As quoting the Pulsar and Sunny owners they put it infront of the FMIC or ontop of the rocker (which in this case is impossible) to aid better cooling to the oil cooler. Maybe wrth idea if you are going to stick that Saab FMIC on the front or not but make sure it gets some proper cold air to it!

And Max your a retard :P God gave you eyes so use them!
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:41 pm

Tom - I think andy's cooler will be a more simple, water-jacketed type arrangement, which can't really be re-mounted. I'm not using the SAAB cooler for this one, too big really.
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Postby andyhardy on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:41 pm

TomRS1800 :
andyhardy :On my CVH there is an oil cooler (albeit a much smaller and simpler one than yours) which the oil filter mounts to - I'm guessing that the sandwich plate for connecting up your oil cooler replaces this (as I know you can mount the oil filter directly to the block without the cooler part in place as well).

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Persoanlly Id put it somewhere a lot cooler than that Andy. As quoting the Pulsar and Sunny owners they put it infront of the FMIC or ontop of the rocker (which in this case is impossible) to aid better cooling to the oil cooler. Maybe wrth idea if you are going to stick that Saab FMIC on the front or not but make sure it gets some proper cold air to it!

And Max your a retard :P God gave you eyes so use them!


What I meant was is that location is the connection point for the oil cooler into the system as standard, and the sandwich plate which allows you to connect the cooler to the engine block is mounted the same way the standard oil cooler is - but yes, I agree with you in that it needs to be mounted somewhere that cool air is actually going to get to it.

I was going to go for a Saab cooler but now have a Pro-Alloy single pass front mount intercooler sitting here ready to go on once the turbo's finished being rebuilt ( :rolleyes: ).

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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:44 pm

That thing STILL isn't on?! What's going on Mandy?? Image
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Postby TomRS1800 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:53 pm

andyhardy :
TomRS1800 :
andyhardy :On my CVH there is an oil cooler (albeit a much smaller and simpler one than yours) which the oil filter mounts to - I'm guessing that the sandwich plate for connecting up your oil cooler replaces this (as I know you can mount the oil filter directly to the block without the cooler part in place as well).

Cheers,

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Persoanlly Id put it somewhere a lot cooler than that Andy. As quoting the Pulsar and Sunny owners they put it infront of the FMIC or ontop of the rocker (which in this case is impossible) to aid better cooling to the oil cooler. Maybe wrth idea if you are going to stick that Saab FMIC on the front or not but make sure it gets some proper cold air to it!

And Max your a retard :P God gave you eyes so use them!


What I meant was is that location is the connection point for the oil cooler into the system as standard, and the sandwich plate which allows you to connect the cooler to the engine block is mounted the same way the standard oil cooler is - but yes, I agree with you in that it needs to be mounted somewhere that cool air is actually going to get to it.

I was going to go for a Saab cooler but now have a Pro-Alloy single pass front mount intercooler sitting here ready to go on once the turbo's finished being rebuilt ( :rolleyes: ).

Cheers,

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Agreed Andy one of my other initial thought were to mount in the boot bottom side or even under the rear of the car but how much engine oil and hosing would you need!???!!!! Well the only other place I could think of is is James is going to relocate the battery to make way for a larger ir Filter then he could mount in in the region of where the battery existed? Just an idea and the Pro Ally Job Cooler sounds sweet with its water cooling!
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:01 pm

There are huge gains to be had by mounting something like a radiator at the back of the car. Because you need so much more water, it gives you a much bigger volume to be cooled. Also, because you run it the length of the car, it has good cooling under the car, and the pipes have a pretty big surface area to get rid of the heat. I'd love to do that, but it's a Fiesta, and I can't be arsed :lol: Can't be bothered moving the battery either. Not enough time, may do it at a later stage I suppose.
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Postby heeman10 on Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:02 pm

Oh, forgot...today's purchase:
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Nice new Bosch uprated Cossie fuel pump (180lph) :D
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