Help with fitting Grp-N'cossie fuel pump

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Postby muffking on Thu Feb 28, 2002 8:17 pm

I'm fitting a Grp-N'cossie fuel pump into my Mk4 EFi Escort Zetec Turbo(same setup as FRST), but ain't sure about how to go about it.

The standard pump had a gauze touching the bottom of the tank to suck up the fuel, but the cossie pump doesn't. So far i've laid it on its side with a long pipe connecting to the fuel line.

Question is, will it suck up the fuel ok even though at times it will only be half submerged???
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Postby turboboss on Fri Mar 01, 2002 9:28 am

I have the same fuel pump for my fiesta and i thought the same thing but i have had no problems with mine i just stripped the old pump and swopped the parts round used the new gauze and its been perfect ever since :lol:
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Postby muffking on Fri Mar 01, 2002 9:42 am

When you say you used the gauze that came with it, do you mean the flat one that lives at one end of the tube so to speak?
I take it you laid yours flat aswell?
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Postby Project on Fri Mar 01, 2002 10:35 am

Might be worth trying to fit the gauze but bear in mind the pump might not have any gauze fitted in case it tries to eat the stuff.

Otherwise just clean the fuel tank right out and keep your filter in good nick :wink:

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Postby Excursion on Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:14 pm

muffy you can swap all the gauze etc over :wink:

the pump unit comes out of the cradle - well it does on fiestas - yours could be different :???:
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Postby muffking on Fri Mar 01, 2002 2:47 pm

yeah the old pump coes out of the cradle, but the cossie is too large to go back in, so i have laid it on the bottom of the tank with a pipe going to the fuel line.
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Postby Excursion on Fri Mar 01, 2002 7:36 pm

dosent sound too good mate, what if it comes loose from the pipe after time :s and you could get surge under hard cornering.

cant you weld a piece into the cradle?
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Postby muffking on Fri Mar 01, 2002 10:43 pm

isn't that what the swirl pot's for though???

The pipe I fitted is wrapped around the swirl to secure the new pump and the pump has a large pipe round its diameter to reduce vibrations against the pump & the tank. I had to do this cos the pump is taller than the tank itself and cannot sit upright.
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Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 02, 2002 12:04 am

ahh fair dos mate. seems like ill have that nightmare when i decide to leave 210 :sad:

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Postby sunnyFRST on Sat Mar 02, 2002 1:49 pm

thank fcuk Harvey's doing my GrpA pump. :Q

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Postby muffking on Sat Mar 02, 2002 2:31 pm

you mean you both have 2.0+ and arn't using a cossie pump?????
How come it ain't det'ing
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Postby sunnyFRST on Sat Mar 02, 2002 5:54 pm

Muffy,
I've always had uprated escort cosworth pumps - my old pump was good for my old engine which was a 2.0 ZVH).
It's now being replaced with a more powerful grpA Escort Cosworth pump. :wink:

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ps- I'd be very surprised if my car detted after being dyno'ed and setup by Harvey and Ahmed. :wink:

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Postby Excursion on Sat Mar 02, 2002 6:18 pm

muffking - ive got large injectors and running low fuel pressure.

im pretty certian the escort cosworth EECIV fuel pump is identical to the rest of the ford range, as fuelling for the standard car was right on the limit?
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Postby muffking on Sat Mar 02, 2002 6:19 pm

God knows what injectors are gonna go with a Grp'A pump :wink:

Good point about the det'ing though
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Postby muffking on Sun Mar 03, 2002 7:02 pm

pump in, now sorted BTW.
just need to sort another problem now :sad:
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Postby Excursion on Sun Mar 03, 2002 9:17 pm

how did you do it?
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Postby sunnyFRST on Sun Mar 03, 2002 10:00 pm

whats the next problem now :???:
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Postby muffking on Mon Mar 04, 2002 12:55 am

Excursion: Since I laid the pump in the swirl it is able to pick up fuel even when the tank is low. The true test will be when cornering hard, but the pump can still pressurise the fuel system so when the pump is starved of fuel for a sort period of time it shouldn't make to much difference to the fuel pressure.

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Postby Excursion on Mon Mar 04, 2002 4:44 pm

:wink: ok sounds alright

yeah whats up now mate?
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