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[joel_winders]

How much should i expect to pay for a zetec turbo conversion for my xr2i ? i've been quoted around the 2k mark for everything is that ok or am i getting my pants pulled down ? cheers

[1992FRST]

try 4500-6000 for a proper ZT

[chumkila]

I'd say 2k for just starting the work on your conversion!

As 1993FRST says, the costs WILL build up.

[ianFRST]

you'd probably pay about 2k 2 put a fiesta rs cvh engine in it mate.

[joel_winders]

just got off the blower again and thats just for the 2 litre he said he couldn't put a price to turbo ing it, but now i know what price range im looking at then . would i be happy with the 2 litres results or would i be wanting more after a bit bareing in mind i have a CBR 400cc superbike aswell so it's not like i don't go fast on the roads

[heeman10]

1. Don't call the CBR400 a superbike please!
2. As people have said, 2k will not get you very far through a Zetec Turbo build. I wouldn't advise you to start out with much less than 5k if you're very careful with money, keep things basic and do all the work yourself, but the costs pile up like you could never imagine.

[muz]

1. Don't call the CBR400 a superbike please!
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2k isnt it about £1000ish to have the car properly set up and mapped when the things built as well?

[heeman10]

Prices can vary enormously depending on how far you decide to take things. You could probably have a Zetec Turbo running in your car (assume you have a FRST with the correct engine loom already in) for 2k. That doesn't mean to say it will work well, keep itself cool, have low ACTs, won't blow the gearbox up, fuel well, make good power and last. The money goes on intercooler, radiator, gauges, gearbox, injectors, mapping, insulation, management, brakes, custom pipes and hoses and all the rest. There is an ENORMOUS amount to consider, and you end up budgeting (as I did) at the beginning, and spending at least half that amount again on things you'd never thought would add up. Electrical connectors, loom tape, tools, jubilee clips, nuts, bolts etc etc...they're only 10 quid, 50 quid, but add up like flies on cow poo!

[Lewy2k3]

just out of interest, i kno they're probably stupid questions, but i have a 1.4 si, and don't know superb amounts about engines.

1/ It is a zetec bottom end with a CVH Turbo top end which makes a Zetec Turbo?

2/ Can it be done in any kind of stages, or does everything have to be done at once?

3/ Anyone fancy telling/teaching me about Frst/zetec and ZT engines, differences etc. Really interested just don't have a fecking clue.

I ask all this, becoz in a year maybe 2, i wanted to sell my Si and go for ZT power as i have heard nothing but good things(apart from when they break) about them. Would you use an FRST to start with or a RS1800? I take it these two are viable options.

Cheers,

Lew.

[Smo]

I'll have a go at answering this

just out of interest, i kno they're probably stupid questions, but i have a 1.4 si, and don't know superb amounts about engines.

1/ It is a zetec bottom end with a CVH Turbo top end which makes a Zetec Turbo?

Nope. What you have described there is a ZVH turbo. A Zetec Turbo is a Zetec head and block, but turbo'd.

2/ Can it be done in any kind of stages, or does everything have to be done at once?

If by stages, you mean doing a bit, then use it, then doing a bit more, then use it again... Not really. I guess you could drive it with low compression and no turbo or turbo management, but it wouldn't be worth it. I think just about everyone who has built one has done the whole lot in one go. That's not to say that it's perfect first time and doesn't haven't to be pulled apart again (Guess I shouldn't actually laugh there )

3/ Anyone fancy telling/teaching me about Frst/zetec and ZT engines, differences etc. Really interested just don't have a fecking clue.

FRST uses a 1.6 CVH engine, an 8v, a bit like what your 1.4 lump is. Different bore and stroke, different valve sizes, cam, etc, lower compression pistons and obviously it's got a turbo bolted to the exhaust manifold The engine management is designed for the turbo application.

The Zetec is a 16v twin cam engine. The XR2i 16v uses a 1.8 105PS version (power set by the ECU, cams and throttle body) and the RS1800 uses a 1.8 130PS version (better cams, different ECU and larger throttle body). The RS1800 also used some under piston oil spray things to keep the temps down. Obviously there's also the 1.6, as used in the majority of Sis and some Ghias, which is a smaller version with a quite restrictive head (making it fairly pointless to tune).

The Zetec Turbo is a Zetec engine (did I just say that? lol), normally a 1.8 or 2.0 (1.6 versions do exist but as said above, the head is quite restrictive) using lower compression pistons, modified block for breathing and oil return from the turbo, etc, running on some sort of management that can handle positive boost e.g. FRST management. Some sort of turbo-application exhaust manifold is used normally along with a T3 or bigger turbo.

There's a lot more that can be said about all that, but hopefully that helps a bit

[heeman10]

I'll have a go at answering this )

Uh ohhh!!

That's not to say that it's perfect first time and doesn't haven't to be pulled apart again (Guess I shouldn't actually laugh there

No you shouldn't

Good crack there Smo. It's hard to answer such general questions really, but you've covered things in a good old vague way I think

[bowdenj]

you'd probably pay about 2k 2 put a fiesta rs cvh engine in it mate.

What ?

I'm presuming this is with normal labour rates ?

If so why would anybody do this? Just buy a good XR2i for £500

John

[Lewy2k3]

Cheers Smo, a ZVH is what i meant, are they not better than just turbo'd zetecs?

[PaulC]

£2k to put an FRST engine in another fiesta? Come see me and MMo when you want that one doing

Lewy2k3 - People use a ZVH as they may already have an FRST/ERST they have spent money on. They may have modified the head, bought new management, injectors and so on. The ZVH means they can keep all this and run it with a stronger bottom end (The zetec block).

[joel_winders]

for a frst lump put in mine it was £250 labour assuming i had all the correct parts, which i don't think is bad (i wish i knew how to take an engine out/ put it back in) would be very handy and save me lots of pennies

[bowdenj]

for a frst lump put in mine it was £250 labour assuming i had all the correct parts, which i don't think is bad (i wish i knew how to take an engine out/ put it back in) would be very handy and save me lots of pennies

Easy, quite possible to take one out and put another in within a day, for one person with right tools

John

[martincvh]

i have got a zetec turbo in my mondeo its not as much money as you think

[Smo]

i have got a zetec turbo in my mondeo its not as much money as you think

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