how to make a mould??

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how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:44 pm

basicly, ive got an mcr front and rear splitter, and because they are hard toget hold of, i was thinking of making reproductions, so that if i did break one i can go in the garage and get another,

what im trying to do is make somekindof mould, that will uniform the shape, of said parts, of which i can layer up, and set new peices,

so like,

cover front splitter in cling film, papier mashaie over te splitter, to make a form, then f/g the inner shape and filler it, to make a reproduction,

but i dont hink papier mashai would work, would it??

and will fibre glass sheets stick to cling film?

once ive worked this out, i can then fit reproduction splitters to both cars, knowing i can make more if needed
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:39 pm

should have a word with lukes mate and get a full carbon fibre/fg bumper and splitter as 1 pc :Q
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:56 pm

bt thatll cost monies, i got more tan enuf f/g seeting to make a boat, n was just guna put it to goodpractice, for free, minus te many man hours lol
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:32 pm

oh ok well get practicing and make me one!! :D :D :rolleyes:
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:09 pm

well once ive got te perfect mould making way,

suply on demand :D

just wana make sure i cann actualy cling film the shape, cos the clingfilm will stop the papier machaei from sticking to the origional splitters, and hopefully will stop the f/g from sticking to the clingfilm,

if it does happy days!!!

unless anyones got any better ideas of making a mould? i would greatly appreciate it :D
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:49 pm

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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:54 pm

the reason i thought of paappier masaei is cos i can break it ff the new moulded peice after, incase bit gets stuck kinda, otherwise, i gota un-sandwich to very strong items,

im una try tomorrow, once ive found a tub of pva haha
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:31 pm

yeah cheers for the site, on to get my "number 13 pva glue" and my "number 34 epoxy resin" haha

will work it out some how :D
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:43 pm

lol ha ha ha dunno how your going to do it in 2 halfs tho lol
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:16 pm

not come across that yet lol, still going finding some n 13 pva, im sure itll be the same as nrml pva

still contenlating using normal papier machaie to cover the splitter, then filling the paper mould with body filler, thn ive got a hard mould then, and then, f/g over it that way
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:31 pm

give it a go mate, calling dibs on the first (good) test piece :D :D lol just dont pile to much f-g in or it wont fit over the bumper!! :rolleyes:
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby moggyfrst on Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:25 pm

dont supose you have a pic of the mcr rear splitter
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:34 pm

will get a pic up of it tomorrow, but no nicking my idea tho,well im not guna tell it you hahaha

gotta do them both to my cars then you can coppy my idea :lol:

will post th pic up tomorow :D

aint got a camera so gotta wait for the missus to cme home(11:30pm)

shes putting illegal imigrants in prison cells athemo, at gatwicks new detention centre

and have to wait for her phone :rolleyes:
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby moggyfrst on Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:41 pm

bubi :will get a pic up of it tomorrow, but no nicking my idea tho,well im not guna tell it you hahaha

gotta do them both to my cars then you can coppy my idea :lol:

will post th pic up tomorow :D

aint got a camera so gotta wait for the missus to cme home(11:30pm)

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and have to wait for her phone :rolleyes:

its only [ERRR] i dont know what 1 looks like, an it would be alot harder for me to make a mould of the front [ERRR] its the hole bumper not just a splitter :)
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:48 pm

lie said, will get pcture up tomorrow,well few pics, what it is, what it looks likeon and what have you,

and ditto with the frnt bumper, so guna try and just mould what the splitter shape is, up to the fog light area,
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby moggyfrst on Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:54 pm

cheers mate, hope it goes well for you
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:17 am

heres the picture of the rear splitter

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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:25 pm

just hada go at the pappier mashae using a mondeo spoiler,

few atempts at the clingfilm, as i couldnt get the creases out

got stressed, had a fag

then went and got a wet sponge and dowsed the spoiler then applied cling fim :D no creases and clingfilm stuck to it well, so wrapped it up nicely and got at it with pva and paper,

have now filled the hole spoiler top side with pappier mashae and now waiting for it to dry in the sun,

fingers crossed its nice and strong,and doesnt break when i take it apart, :lol:
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:29 pm

how did it go bud? just send me the front one mate rear is gash :D :lol: :lol: :bonkers:
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:21 pm

update

papier mashaes s**t

on to finding some moulding clay and some resin
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby moggyfrst on Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:27 pm

bubi :heres the picture of the rear splitter

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dont think i'll be getin a rear one , just doesnt look right
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:24 pm

right got on to a mate about making the mould, he sprays cranes for a living, and thewarehouse next to him, make things out of fibre glass, so wil be going visiting them tomorrow, or when i can to see if they can make the moulds for me, i can do the other work,


just hoe the moulds wontt be too expensive :)

moggy,

ill telll you my secret, i was guna fit tis, with a twin exit, get rid f toeing eye, amd make a symetrical zaust exit, i got a few exhausts (4 in total 2 and 2) so can twin exit both cars, and was guna get rid of te middle partition, and smoothe it in, to the bumper as one pc,

that along with the front splitter, will make the car look alot lower,
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby dangerousdave on Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:34 pm

so hows my new front splitter progressing mate?? lol :lol: :lol: :P
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:14 pm

tbh ive completly frgot, bout it, been on to a list of whats needed for a 1.8 zt with a t3, and wether or not, a nice set of rims will fit on her car, hopefully, as gooin buyin them tomorrow,

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got them comming really cheap,

anythings better than ford puma 5 spoke button rims haha
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby simon turbo on Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:12 pm

hi there i used to work for a body kit maker a few years ago its pretty easy to make a mould.
basic way you first need to go with all the wet and dry sand papers up tp 1500 grit, then deside where you want to split the mould.you the mask off where you need to attach the lip or flang. you filler or glue gun a stich only on the masking tape, a lip around 2 in wide all the way round. so you should have the splitter with a lip all round it (use a fibre glass sheet cut up to right shap or close best way to make sheet is on a flat sheet of stainless or a mirror.)
use plasterscene to fill any gaps.
no if you have done it corret you should have half the splitter which should be all smooth and a nice lip all round , you know need to use wax release . wax the splitter and lip and buff of do this about 6-10 times .
it should be looking good now!
now you need some gell mix it up and gell splitter and lips. leave to go of over night.
next day you need to use so fibre glass tissue on the edge where the splitter and the lip meats and roll to make sure there are no air bubbles.
leave to go hard.
then do just one layer of firbre glass matting 2 oz roll and leave to go hard.
do this so its about 8 oz thick.
next day crack off just the lip and you will be left with a new thick fibre glass lip which you have just made.
now do exactly what you did before from the waxing part,
you will end up with the splitter completely covered before you split the mould in to two drill around the lip piece put holes every 3-5 inches.
now use a screw driver and prize the two parts apart.
they should just fall of if you waxed it right. blunt screw driver and a hammer. :-?
once you have removed both parts you have your mould, now makesure it all good and it hasnt stuck up if it has chip of the best you can then wet and dry to perfect finish.
wax the mould 6 times and use grey gell coat cover only the splitter area with gell not lips leave to go off and next day use only one layers of 2 oz matting do both parts and then you need some joining compound once the glass is hard. put the compound round the edge on both parts and lots where you drill to connect to the car sit the two mould pieces together and put nut and bolt where you drill the holes before to macth the parts up striaght leave to dry,crack the splitter out use a grinder to off any extra compound and use a sanding disc around the whole join line if you need to use some normal car body filler on any small hole rub down and primer grey.
that a ruff guide you need grp tissue,grp matting,mould release wax, gell coat,and loads of resin.
i hope this helps it is pretty easy but may cost around £100 for all the products but if you sell them once made you will make yor money with in a few. any questions just ask pm me :D
be aware of copy right if it has a copy right you may need to alter it slightly even just 5mm of filler each side is ok as it is not an exact copy :bonkers: :D
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Re: how to make a mould??

Postby curly on Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:40 pm

thankyou for the guide m8,

i will be getting on to the case this year, and will start producing front and rears for people who need them,

i dont give a toss if there copy rited as im only duplicating for future use,and doing some experimenting and not selling them to make a profit :lol: just to help a fellow enthusiast out :D

i will keep people informed as and when i can get funds, get materials, and get in the mood to get very sticky :)
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