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[AdrianFRST]

hmmmmm.... OK lets rewind. Never said a STANDARD AIRBOX AND FILTER WAS BETTER THAN A K&N CONE.

I SAID THAT A STD AIR BOX WITH K&N PANEL FILTER WAS BETTER THAN A K&N CONE WHICH IN TURN IS BETTER THAN A STD AIRBOX WITH STD FILTER.

OK SEEMS YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT AND DO'T "WANT" TO LISTEN TO ADVICE, EVEN THOUGH I GIVE A fudgeING GOOD REASON TO USE THE AIR BOX AND NOT A CONE YOU STILL GO, "BUT MY MOM SAID BLAH BLAH BLAH"

[UHF]

Who said, "But my mum said"?

[AdrianFRST]

OK this is starting to make me feel sick. I will put an ammendment in ok, just for you uhf so you understand.

OK SEEMS YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT AND DO'T "WANT" TO LISTEN TO ADVICE, EVEN THOUGH I GIVE A fudgeING GOOD REASON TO USE THE AIR BOX AND NOT A CONE YOU STILL GO, "BUT MY MOM SAID BLAH BLAH BLAH". (last quote is fictional and is there to represent the way in which people put forward their "arguement":wink:(also people don't go "blah blah blah" as this would be silly baby talk)

Is that ok for you uhf?

[UHF]

Infact my Mum did say that they were better, she is a race engineer for Mclaren

[Ian C70T5]

me0u021e SHUT THE fudge UP!!!

He bought a cone.. HE LIKES HIS CONE..

HE LIKES THE SOUND IT MAKES!!!

HES KEEPING HIS CONE!!1

LEAVE HIM THE fudge ALONE!!

You've made YOUR view and having a cone or box aint gonna be the difference of 100bhp is it.. SO STFU!

[Phil Si]

do u want a flake in that sir? crushed nuts?

nope its just the way i walk

[Phil Si]

do u want a flake in that sir? crushed nuts?

nope its just the way i walk

[festajon]

llama @ UHF



Meu i know u said the K&N in standard airbox was better, but it's still been proved many times that the induction kit is better on rolling roads. So yeah in traffic the airbox might be better as it won't let as much hot air in, blah blah blah, but for out and out power the induction kit wins.
My main gripe is u think u know it all, you're plain rude (advice is not telling some indirectly they're an idiot for buying a certain product in your first post) and no-one respects your knowledge due to your plain obnoxiousness.
If u have so much knowledge why didn't u recommend the drilled airbox with the K&N pannel filter? This normally beats both pannel filter in standard airbox AND the induction kit.... better read another book or something



UHF - my mum used to push me round in a Maclearen buggy, does that count

[festajon]

llama @ UHF



Meu i know u said the K&N in standard airbox was better, but it's still been proved many times that the induction kit is better on rolling roads. So yeah in traffic the airbox might be better as it won't let as much hot air in, blah blah blah, but for out and out power the induction kit wins.
My main gripe is u think u know it all, you're plain rude (advice is not telling some indirectly they're an idiot for buying a certain product in your first post) and no-one respects your knowledge due to your plain obnoxiousness.
If u have so much knowledge why didn't u recommend the drilled airbox with the K&N pannel filter? This normally beats both pannel filter in standard airbox AND the induction kit.... better read another book or something



UHF - my mum used to push me round in a Maclearen buggy, does that count

[on_a_maxin_mission]

this guys a valve

[UHF]

And a badly seated one at that

[AdrianFRST]

I think you will find festajon, if you read the previous posts, I said a slight widening of the inlet hole maybe needed. So on that note I'd say...better read the posts or something.

Look, I give my veiws Ian, then people like you go "oh shut up my tuner this my tuner that", ok so they have their veiws I have mine you have yours, it all ends up that its the guy that pays for the fudgeing stuff that counts, yes he has bought one, didn't say it would give 100hp, why do you have to blow things out of proportion? Its like my engine I quote 400hp then people come back saying whoh fudgeing hell 500hp from a zetec, oh your a gammon slipper, yeah cos I said 500hp didn't I. If you don't like what I post, read the name first then don't read my comments, its that SIMPLE.

[UHF]

someone tell me what he said, I just read the name and decided not to read it

[AdrianFRST]

Hmm UHF, the "don't read my comments if you see my name" was at the end of the post, or do you read them backwards? No wonder you can't understand whats going on.

[UHF]

No no, I decided at the end of your last post that I didnt want to read anymore

Someone told me about your last post so thats why i'm saying this.

[festajon]

Yeah but we are talking about an airfilter swap here meu! that's it! no widening of any inlet bits and bobs othwerwise u could just say put a pipercross sock over the end of it, get ur head gasflowed and put in a lumpy cam, etc etc. It's a 1 for 1 swap not do all these extra bits. If u wanna be 'f**cked with widening ports etc then great, but i was talkin bout the most effective SWAP of filter styles & housings! i really can't be @rsed with this anymore meu.

Oh u never answered why u didn't suggest the drilled airbox question?

[AdrianFRST]

OK festajon now you start to piss me off. My modification suggestions did in no way relate to any head or cam work. If you read back, no infact I'll cut and paste it for you as you seem incapable of doing so

" I think you will find festajon, if you read the previous posts, I said a slight widening of the inlet hole maybe needed. So on that note I'd say...better read the posts or something."

Widening of the inlet hole. Yes THE INLET HOLE TO THE AIRBOX YOU MUPPET. HOW WILL MAKING THE PORTS WIDER ENABLE THE FLOW THROUGH THE BOX BE GREATER THAN ITS MAXIMUM AS STARNDARD?

OK THIS IS THE LAST TIME I SAY THIS

READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU SHOUT AT ME, YOU ALL SEEM TO WANT TO PICK A FIGHT WITH ME BUT ALL YOUR ARGUEMENTS ARE NOT EVEN RELEVENT.

DRILLING THE AIRBOX IS A HALFWAY HOUSE BETWEEN CONE FILTER AND PANEL FILTER WITH WIDENED INLET HOLE OK. AS THE NUMEROUS HOLES CAUSE GREATER TURBULENCE IN THE AIR BOX WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE!!

Does this answer your question in the MOST BASIC form of english or do I have to reduce to grunts and squeaks???

[UHF]

OK THIS IS THE LAST TIME I SAY THIS

READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU SHOUT AT ME...

Ok, I have done that, now fudge OFF!

You do realise that your entire turbulence "fact" in in FACT trying to suggest that Boyles PV over T is infact a total nonsense, good luck, I'd like to see your reserach if thats the case!

[AdrianFRST]

Hmm, funny how boyles pv/t has nothing to do with turbulence or laminar flow, but then hey, you'd know that being as you brought it in to the conversation. All it tells us is that for a gas to remain at a constant temperature uner a change in volume of a SEALED container is it must also under go a change in pressure.

Come on at least bring on something complex like the otto cycle. Or more to the point say the steady flow energy equation, or momentum equation, friction factor, or skin friction coefficient, or shear stress within laminar flow, velocity profile within laminar flow, pressure drop within laminar flow, shear stress with in turbulent flow, turbulent boundry layer friction velocity, viscous sub layer, buffer region, inner region, velocity profile, pressure drop within turbulent flow pressure drop due to roughness coefficient.

Any comments, or have you got your own equations that don't follow the scientific trend?

[Fezzy Turbo]

If it is ssooo bad to have turbulance, then why does the Focus WRC have it's CONE filter in it's box and the hole for the air is on the bonnet ? surely the air would be very turbulant ? as it enters the box from the bonnet.

(remember i am not picking a fight, just questioning your comments)

[UHF]

Dont have time to reply now, off out, but i'll give you a perfectly reasoned argument on the turbulence issue

[festajon]

Meu u are a muppet, u just said 'the inlet hole' not specifically to the airbox. I do believe there are many inlet holes on a fez engine. I'm fed up of being polite to u so shut the 'f**k up u arrogant 'cocky jumped up piece of 's**t.

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I think you will find festajon, if you read the previous posts, I said a slight widening of the inlet hole maybe needed
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Meu i KNOW u didn't say that stuff about cams etc. 'Jesus! all i'm sayin is it is a straight swap and no @rsing around with other bits which includes widening the route the air takes to the box! i said the other stuff bout cams and that cos we were talking about swapping an air filter here, like for like, and not finding optimum flow or u may as well swap the cams, flow the head etc to make full use of it.

No answer on drilled airbox still!

[AdrianFRST]

Ok festajon READ THE POSTS I won't post again the difference, if you can't understand plain english ask someone else what i wrote as its startin to piss me off with your arrogance.

Hang on there fezzy turbo, did you say cone filter inside the air box? if thats what you ment then you've answered your question already. All that I have said is information supplied be FORD BROOKLYN MOTORSPORT, if you don't agree e-mail them and argue onwards with them.

Oh ok UHF look forward to your irrelevent answer, going to quote newtons F=MA in some bid to look smart? Even though this aswell has nothing to do with air FLOW.

[UHF]

I dont need to try and look smart, I have a degree and currently work as a well paid IT Manager, however I have interests in physics and will be investigating your comments.

[AdrianFRST]

Oh at last. Well thankyou for investigating before shouting out again.

[festajon]

I learnt from the best meu, and that's not u by the way. laters. was merely saying callin someone an idiot is out of order. U haven't appologised. My opinion remains. I have been arrogannt to your posts for one reason. u do the same to them. I can get along with most people, but u take the rise. not botherin anymore.
Good luck with your engine meu, i wish u all the best and will be the first to congratulate u if it goes well. Now my point has been made to u my work here has been done.


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