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keeping in contact with the road

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keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:59 pm

just wondering what sort of things can do to keep the car in contact with the road as had a bit of acident as missed a corner in the dark down the back roads and had to chuck it round while doing 40ish still and car slided hit two curbs , left tyre got flappy bit of tyre on it , drivers side curbed as any thing and tyre seems ok , but recon they both not useable , and right wishbone all bent up, so just wondering any mods etc can help prevent the car from slideing in the first place? as would like to make the can handle better and stick to the road more too aswell :D
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby fiend on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:44 pm

Wider wheels and a decent set of tyres will help, obviously.

I found a rear strut brace made a massive improvement to the handling.
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:45 pm

yeah wheels i had on there had loaddds of tread left and was nice and wide , u know of any nice wide ford alloys on the cheap :D
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby fiend on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:47 pm

Don't know of any Ford ones, but I've got a set of alloys for sale for cheap..

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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:48 pm

cheers you have a comment on there :D
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby - Danny Boy - on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:50 pm

Its a common fietsta problem, the rear end is so light..

Get it lowered with some decent suspension, wider lower profile tires with lots of grip like toyo proxies or something, then stiffen up the chassis might be a good call with strut braces.
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:52 pm

Danny Boy UK :Its a common fietsta problem, the rear end is so light..

Get it lowered with some decent suspension, wider lower profile tires with lots of grip like toyo proxies or something, then stiffen up the chassis might be a good call with strut braces.


nice one cheers :)
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby RS1800pec on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:54 pm

Simple things you can do and there free....

-No your roads when giving it the heevhoe
-No your car
-No your limits

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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:55 pm

Smooth SI :Simple things you can do and there free....

-No your roads when giving it the heevhoe
-No your car
-No your limits

:P


lol it was dark it was first time on that road and didnt see the corner , was only doing 45 out of the possible 60.......
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby - Danny Boy - on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:08 pm

60? Do you have a moped engine or something? haha.
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby fiend on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:17 pm

Danny Boy UK :60? Do you have a moped engine or something? haha.


I'm guessing he means 60, as in the road was national speed limit.

Not the top speed of his car.
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:20 pm

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Danny Boy UK :60? Do you have a moped engine or something? haha.


I'm guessing he means 60, as in the road was national speed limit.

Not the top speed of his car.


thats correct yeah :)

might even invest in some brighter head lights to help see things lol!

im seriously considering taking the car off the road for a few months to get the new wish bone fitted etc and get a few upgrades like anti roll bars and strut braces to help keep the car handeling well.

so the back of the car is the main probiem is it? whats best thing for it to help stoping the rear arse end
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby - Danny Boy - on Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:49 pm

Oh lol, i didnt realise :D

Theres not alot you can do apart from stiffen it up, or just get a few sand bags in there ;)

Why not just work on the car at the weekends, then you can keep it during the week. Wishbone will only take an hour or so even if you dont know what your doing, suspension takes a few if you go slow, strut braces are 10min job each pretty much, just a couple of bolts really. Front takes a bit longer as it requires some drilling, but still, its not hard.

Does your car not have anti-roll bars then? I thought all fiestas did :-?
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby xr2irhys on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:00 pm

not all cars have them no lol.........

and i meant take car off road money wise
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby dontpannic on Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:42 pm

Smooth SI :Simple things you can do and there free....

-No your roads when giving it the heevhoe
-No your car
-No your limits

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And know the difference between no and know :bonkers:
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby M1K3Y_B on Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:30 pm

I found just lowering my car and fitting my alloys made a massive improvement to the handling.

The tyres on my alloys aren't exactly anything special, but they seem to grip really well :)
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby Ruishy1 on Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:42 pm

some fully adjustable suspension, and have the rebound and compression set up, this will keep your tyres in contact with the road as much as possible.
Lower it,

have your camber, castor and toe in checked and set up, stiffen the chassis with strut braces, ARBs, roll cages and stiffening foam in the chassis rails.

lighten the car as much as possible

put decent rubber on your wheels


TBH the list is endless mate, depends on how much cash you have :lol:
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby Ratspeed on Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:51 pm

Mine has front upper and lower strut braces, rear strut brace and twin rear anti-roll bar. The twin roll bar makes a hell of difference.makes it feel really 'pointy' if you know what i mean. And its stripped out too
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby M1K3Y_B on Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:29 pm

Ratspeed :front lower strut braces?


Do you mean front Anti roll bar?

Or does did you mean lower strut braces?

if its the later can you get a pic? :)
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby Ratspeed on Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:32 pm

M1K3Y_B :
Ratspeed :front lower strut braces?


Do you mean front Anti roll bar?

Or does did you mean lower strut braces?

if its the later can you get a pic? :)


I meant lower strut brace, but if you want to be picky it has a anti roll bar too! :lol:

But it has the ford item that goes in between both suspension arm carriers and and where the carriers bolt to the chassis rails it has an extra bar bolted in there too, nowt special mate
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby dangermouse on Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:39 pm

its all been said really, better suspension, sticky tyres, wider wheels, put a sub in the boot to weigh the back end down lol.
ive been caught out a few times, understeer central, off the power and dont brake has helped me out before lol
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby White2i on Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:26 pm

decent gripy tyres, wider alloys, polybushes, coilovers and a nice but sensible drop and rollbars and strut braces, also uprating the brakes would help aswell mate as in would slow you down quicker.
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby THEHOG~ on Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:28 pm

is this the rite rear strut brace for my 1995 mk3 fez si or will a xr2i one be ok
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_in ... cts_id=449
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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby M1K3Y_B on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:49 pm

THEHOG~ :is this the rite rear strut brace for my 1995 mk3 fez si or will a xr2i one be ok
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_in ... cts_id=449


Think you will find that for a Mk4.

This is the one you want:

http://www.strutbracer.co.uk/page1.php?sitepage=4&partid=83&modelid=298&manuf=27

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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby THEHOG~ on Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:11 pm

M1K3Y_B :
THEHOG~ :is this the rite rear strut brace for my 1995 mk3 fez si or will a xr2i one be ok
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_in ... cts_id=449


Think you will find that for a Mk4.

This is the one you want:

http://www.strutbracer.co.uk/page1.php?sitepage=4&partid=83&modelid=298&manuf=27

:)


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Re: keeping in contact with the road

Postby M1K3Y_B on Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:59 am

No worries, but be aware if your after the front one for an Si, expect to spend 120+ :oooh:
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