Legal side of an engine conversion

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Legal side of an engine conversion

Postby deex on Mon May 21, 2007 7:21 pm

Hi im just after a bit of information on what exactly you need to do after you have swapped all the engine over? who do you have to notify etc and the tests that need to be carried out on makin it road legal and any info and guides on what to do next and what kind of insurance group it will be put into with a 1.6 non turbo engine? im thinking of doing this but at the moment the legal implectaions are stopping me? thanks
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Postby Oranoco on Mon May 21, 2007 8:06 pm

Once the engine is in place you must contact the DVLA and register the new engine number and capacity. Your insurer must be notified and you may be required to arrange an engineers report.
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Postby hb69 on Mon May 21, 2007 11:06 pm

as said above you will need to update your logbook with the new engine capacity and number, and also inform your insurers of the change. some wont request an engineers report, some will. the insurance group the car is put in once the engine is changed will depend on what car the new engine came from.
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Postby JayC on Tue May 22, 2007 5:36 am

you also may be judged on why you want to do the conversion.. generaly unless your going for deisel over petrol.. the only reason is to go faster or drive less safe... apparently.

some just enjoy the sheer engineering side of things..

You can still insure your engine before declairing it. its only the goverment who want to know engine codes, but insurers need to know capacity and horsepower to make your quote.

Adriun Flux insure my 2.0 Si for just about £700 TPFT completly standard, and im 21.. my 1.6 (RIP) was £330 per yeah FC with NU
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Postby JayC on Tue May 22, 2007 5:39 am

Oh and just because I like people knowing where they stand.. you know you need insurance.. but if your ever in such a situation which includes you, your engine bay and 2 coppers.. they are not automotive engineers therefore they cannot speculate on your engine's legality.

They can however.. make you goto a MOT test station at your expense to get a road conformity test at any time
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Postby FezV6 on Tue May 22, 2007 12:24 pm

im insured with HIC. they insured my 1.4 si TPFT for £280 a year and will insure it with my new 2.5 v6, fully comp and agreed value, for £620 a year. :) BONUS!

They use the age of the car and the insurance grouping of the car the engine came from. Thats why its better to get the new engine out of something like a modeo estate than out of say an escort
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Postby heeman10 on Tue May 22, 2007 1:17 pm

As people have said above (possibly missing out an important detail), you need to fill in your DVLA registration document (can never remember what it's called..it was changed about 20 years ago but I'm stuck with my dad's terminology :lol:) with your new details (i.e. engine capacity and engine number), entering them in the blue section, then sending it off to the DVLA. They will print off a new, altered registration document, and post it back to you. As said, you need to tell your insurers about every modification as well.

When I bolted my Zetec Turbo in, I rang HIC to let them know before it was running, and to step from my 150bhp 1.8 TDI to the 230bhp 1.8 Zetec Turbo cost me a £25 admin charge, no increase in premium! :lol:
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Postby deex on Tue May 22, 2007 7:39 pm

thanks alot everyone really helped gonna have to locate the numbers and do bit more research
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Postby HCS PIMP on Wed May 23, 2007 11:39 pm

mine was 38 admin charge wait till next years premium goes up hahahahahha 1.8 zetec turbo no wonder the focus honked u sound like ur killing squriles every time u ease off hahahahaha waste gate my ass it a torture chamber for rodents
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Postby Smo on Wed May 23, 2007 11:52 pm

HCS PIMP :mine was 38 admin charge wait till next years premium goes up hahahahahha 1.8 zetec turbo no wonder the focus honked u sound like [ERRR] killing squriles every time u ease off hahahahaha waste gate my ass it a torture chamber for rodents

It's taken me a few minutes to actually figure out what you're on about, but LOL at "torture chamber for rodents" :lol:

You should mention that you were talking about heeman10's video though or people are going to think you're mad(der) :) :bonkers:

Oh and it's not a wastegate, but turbo chatter/flutter :D
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Postby HCS PIMP on Thu May 24, 2007 12:00 am

hhahahha yeh lol hemman is a hero i like what he did and love hemmingways i ask him how to get a job with a performance company to no response
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Postby lowsi on Fri May 25, 2007 2:24 am

Smo :You should mention that you were talking about heeman10's video though or people are going to think you're mad(der) :) :bonkers:


smo knows how to communicate :lol: thanks for your translation :lol:
i think it sounds like an agitated pigeon myself,

on topic: whats the crack with tax, do they change your bracket or what, because i declared mine last time and i never heard back from the dvla,
sent it recorded post but i didn't chase them up and then i sold the car
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Postby hb69 on Fri May 25, 2007 12:44 pm

it would depend on which engine you started off with, and which one your putting in to change the tax, if you originally had a 1.6 and changed to a 2.0 for example then it will stay in the same bracket, whereas if you change from a 1.1 to a 2.0 then you have to go to your nearest dvla office to pay the extra, as you will move up into the next tax group. :)
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Postby heeman10 on Fri May 25, 2007 7:15 pm

HCS PIMP : 1.8 zetec turbo no wonder the focus honked u sound like [ERRR] killing squriles every time u ease off hahahahaha waste gate my ass it a torture chamber for rodents

:lol::lol::lol:
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