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[Max M4X WW]

As mark has said regarding cradle and mounts - i hope you have got Rs turbo or xr2i gearbox cradle on this ?

No its a 1.1 cradle, no one told me they were different and the gearbox is physically identical?

Its hitting engine mount side anyway.

[Excursion]

As mark has said regarding cradle and mounts - i hope you have got Rs turbo or xr2i gearbox cradle on this ?

No its a 1.1 cradle, no one told me they were different and the gearbox is physically identical?

Its hitting engine mount side anyway.

The gearbox and chassis are identical, but how the gearbox sits within the cradle is unique to engine type. If this problem is down to the cradle then I'd expect the manifold to foul on the engine mount side anyway, as the manifold is obviously off-centre so the bonnet will be sloping downwards towards the wings at the contact point.

I used the same manifold on an old ZT:



The spacing between my TB and cam cover should give you a reference: if your spacing is larger then your alloy spacers are too thick, if its the same then you have an engine mounting issue.

[knuckles]

i had to change the craddle on my mk2 when i converted from 4 speed to 5 speed as the craddles have different height that the gearbox sits on. for example the 5 speed craddle has a 5mm spacer on the mounting points to lower the gearbox.

On microcat and ecat they list different mk3 craddles from 1.1 to 1.6 cvh to diesel and also 4 speed and 5 speed

[Max M4X WW]

Mark did you have a spacer between the top and bottom half of the inlet? I'd say mine was about 10mm.

I will swap cradles once the car is back on the ground and once I get one, its on stands at the moment

[Excursion]

Mark did you have a spacer between the top and bottom half of the inlet? I'd say mine was about 10mm.

I will swap cradles once the car is back on the ground and once I get one, its on stands at the moment

Yes ,I did. They are required otherwise the TB hits the Zetec cam cover. Mine was 10mm too so it sounds like the mounts are the issue.

[Max M4X WW]

Will try and get hold of a cradle then, will I need the brackets as well?

[Smo]

Max, I vaguely remember Marc (MOONDUST FRST or whatever he was) using a spacer on the cradle to lower the engine slightly? I could be wrong, it was a long time ago!

Your rear bracket should be fine, I'm sure mine were identical, but the front brackets are different as they're longer and the actual mount sits further forward than with the 1.1 cradle.

Edit: Found this... viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57342

[Max M4X WW]

All sounds good apart from the engine mount bits, I don't remember Paul, James (Heeman) or anyone having to do that.

By crossmember I guess they mean the S brace thing

I need to speak to Mike really.

[Max M4X WW]

I've highlighted where the inlet is hitting the bonnet..



Won't lowering the gearbox end effectively raise the bit that's touching?

[Mikee_RS]

Max, I vaguely remember Marc (MOONDUST FRST or whatever he was) using a spacer on the cradle to lower the engine slightly? I could be wrong, it was a long time ago!

Your rear bracket should be fine, I'm sure mine were identical, but the front brackets are different as they're longer and the actual mount sits further forward than with the 1.1 cradle.

Edit: Found this... viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57342

yes this is correct I had spacers between the gearbox cradle and body, without them the throttle body woulf foul the bonnet.

Ill keep an eyes on this because I want to see the engine live again

[FRSJON]

I've highlighted where the inlet is hitting the bonnet..



Won't lowering the gearbox end effectively raise the bit that's touching?

max can you do me a big favour when your next stood next to the car like that.. can you lay the oil pressure switch wire up on the inlet and take a pic just so i can see where its located in the loom. seem to of lost mine cheers

[Max M4X WW]

Mike I think I have the little alloy spacers, 4x tall washer type things. Not found any spacers for the S brace though.

Jon, I have no idea what you are talking about! The loom is in the shed somewhere in a bucket!

[~S1~]

All sounds good apart from the engine mount bits, I don't remember Paul, James (Heeman) or anyone having to do that.

By crossmember I guess they mean the S brace thing

I need to speak to Mike really.

My gearbox cradle has spacers between cradle and body.

[Max M4X WW]

Small update but its taken a fair amount of messing about to get this far! After half assembling one hub a fortnight ago the bearings didn't seem right and I couldn't really remember if it was normal or not so I decided to get new wheel bearings for the front. Also had massive trouble getting the shafts in as the hubs had been exposed to the elements for three years and probably using a bit too much mallet action probably ruined the bearings further.

After Clark sorted me some bearings and told me that new hubs were £100+ each I found that ECP stocked Febi Bilstein items which sounded like they could be pretty good. After trips to various ECP's trying to get hold of two Febi hubs (new stock items are Lucas and didn't look to be of the same quality) I finally got everything back on the car this afternoon after a good friend pressed the front hubs together.

I've got the coils set as high as they can go at the front and it still sits fairly low. I'd forgotten how good Fiesta's look just lowered on wheels - it doesn't look anything special in the photos though.





















As you can see, I even managed to push the car forward a little bit as its not moved for 3 years and it seemed to roll pretty easy! You cant see in the photos but I've got rusty old Mk6 ST discs on the front and have all new discs/pads and freshly sprayed callipers ready to go on - I might take a look at these tomorrow. Looks like I'm going to need 5mm spacers on the front again as the tyres are only 1mm from the coilovers - I won't be using these wheels though and hopefully I wont need anymore than 5mm for the Pro Race otherwise it will all have to come apart again to change the studs!

[hb69]

Looks like a lairy son of a gun

Wouldnt bother with spacers tho, if youve got 1mm of clearance then youve got clearance. The distance between them shouldnt change. My 306 had about that distance and was ok. Will prob get scrubbing in the arches if you space the wheels too

[heeman10]

LooWouldnt bother with spacers tho, if youve got 1mm of clearance then youve got clearance. The distance between them shouldnt change.

Cornering = lateral tyre deflection.

Max - The shell looks great. I had to space my gearbox cradle down by 10mm at the front and the back.

[jonyb4]

that looks great, its soo clean!

1mm is cutting it a bit close

[Max M4X WW]

Yea when I say 1mm I mean touching really, the wheels turn but as said - with different make tyres and cornering it will be too close. I had 5mm spacers on the white one with the above wheels with no issues. On that the Cossie brakes seemed to make them foul, disc centres must be thinner.

James, do you have any photos of the spacers? I have some but they look a bit weedy! For what reason did you do this?

Cheers

[- Danny Boy -]

Looking good Max!

[heeman10]

James, do you have any photos of the spacers? I have some but they look a bit weedy! For what reason did you do this?

I'll have some pics somewhere, perhaps even in my thread, but as long as they're around 10-15mm thick, and not made of plasticine, they will be up to the job.

[Minstral]

glad the coilies have finally been put to use.
may need a spacer on the rear max, i had to

[Max M4X WW]

glad the coilies have finally been put to use.
may need a spacer on the rear max, i had to

Not even sure if 5mm will be enough on the front, which is annoying! The black wheels below are ET38 and my other wheels are ET37 - pics below with 5mm spacer..

Got the brakes and track rod ends on today, I forgot the caliper springs but I may as well put off scratching my painted calipers for a few weeks anyway

[- Danny Boy -]

Tis quite close! I think a 5mm spacer might just about give enough clearance. Depends what tyres you want to run though.

[jonyb4]

mine were like that max, 5 mm spacer cured it for me, but then when i fitted 195/45/15s it was fine without a spacer, probably be different on your 16s, but if you were to go for 40's or 45's might be ok

looks great i love them wheels

[Max M4X WW]

The tyres will be 195/45/15 I think, the same as on the silver wheel but will probably go with Toyo T1R's to start with and they have a flat sidewall unlike the Falkens.

Just for reference..

[~nomad~]

Those wheels look awesome. good things come to those who wait

[Excursion]

Looking good, Max. I have a similar situation as you with the front struts/wheels. May end up ordering a different set of wheels yet.

[Max M4X WW]

I think I need ET30 or similar ideally.

I see your Pro Race on ebay are ET38 the same as mine, what other wheels do you have for it?

[Excursion]

I think I need ET30 or similar ideally.

I see your Pro Race on ebay are ET38 the same as mine, what other wheels do you have for it?

Yes, that's right. I think I shall order another set of Pro Race 1.2 only in a different offset. I want to run 205 or 215 width tyres, so once the suspension is built I will see what I need.

Yours look good!

[Max M4X WW]

Without messing around I'm pretty much limited to 195's. Will see how it goes

[MB7201]

Are you going to be adding xr2i/turbo arches? Thats the same problem I have with the wheels but when I spaced them out to fit, they were pushed out of the arch.

[jonyb4]

could flare the arches i guess?

[Max M4X WW]

No arch mods, only recently had the rears sorted!

Everything will fit

[Max M4X WW]

Made some progress with the dash this weekend..



I've still got a few wires that I'm not sure of..

Spade plug - brown with red line. Cut wire - brown with red line


Spade plug - brown with red line


Small round plug - grey with yellow line


Any ideas?

[dontpannic]

I'm fairly sure my MK3 and MK5 had this unconnected just tucked under the trim.