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[niracka]

Haha got ma new sub fitted the other days n its sooo much fun. check it out





ollie

[NJ]

Are they those Vibe subs?. How do they sound? can you compare them to anything?.

[niracka]

Yea theyre two 12" 1600 watt subs with a max output of 3200watts and 1000watts rms!

I'm running them on a "vibe slick" amp which is running at about 700 watts at the moment i think. The sound is very clear and crisp and never destorts. Its definately on par if not better than the big 2000w pioneer subs that were out a while ago but i think that the sound u get really depends on what amp and head unit you run it with.

If u max it out it makes all the hairs on ur face and legs tingle and u can feel it all through ur body. I would definately advise goin with vibe cos all of their subs that i'v heard are very impressive

ollie

[bassboy]

strange...every set of vibes ive heard havent sounded good at all....thats if the cones dont crack with their apparent 'high excursion'....be careful with them mate...dont play them too loud or you will crack the cones!!

bassboy

[diablosvy]

Are they the Space 12'' subs? Becuase they are 1000w RMS, and only have an xmax of 14mm
Id be very careful about cranking that amp as its no where near powerful enough for those subs...im guessing the amps 700w Max Power which means about 250w RMS for 2 subs needing 2000wRMS

Id be very whery of any company that sells its subs in a bandpass box becuase you just know they arnt going to be very bassy otherwise esp. with only 14mm xmax

[niracka]

ok the total rms for both subs is 1000 watts I think lol. They are black air 2 subs.

my amp Power is as follows:

power @ 4 ohms 1 x 300 WRMS
Power bridged @ 2 Ohms 1 x 600 WRMS
Power @ 1 Ohm 1 x 1300 WRMS

i think its currently at 2 ohms but i am running the subs in for a while befor i turn anything up real loud and i assure you guys the sound is excellent. Will soon be messing around with the gain ect but at the mo i'm happy with the way it souds .

Not to worried about busting the cones because thats what the warrenty is for

ollie

[rtlee88]

Is your metro still in one piece! with those things in the back im suprised your car doesent shake apart!

[niracka]

lol yea i'm surprised too!!

I am hopefully getting a new car soon anyways so wont b stuck in there much longer

ollie

[bassboy]

Yea theyre two 12" 1600 watt subs with a max output of 3200watts and 1000watts rms!

I'm running them on a "vibe slick" amp which is running at about 700 watts at the moment i think. The sound is very clear and crisp and never destorts. Its definately on par if not better than the big 2000w pioneer subs that were out a while ago but i think that the sound u get really depends on what amp and head unit you run it with.

If u max it out it makes all the hairs on [ERRR] face and legs tingle and u can feel it all through [ERRR] body. I would definately advise goin with vibe cos all of their subs that i'v heard are very impressive

ollie

can i invite you to hear my Pioneer's please? and please PM SuperAl and ask him if you can have a listen to his Pioneer 305C sub which i reckon will be louder than your pair of 12's

if wired in parallel your running the amp at 2 ohms giving 600wrms @ 14.4v hence about 500-550 wrms for the pair of subs....its enough to drive them...but also enough to crack the cones without a doubt...

oh and please dont count on the warentee....unfortunately, audio manufacturers come up with every excuse under the sun to get out of giving out a new product or even repairing the old unit!!!

bassboy

[niracka]

thats quite interesting lol i'l take that in mind.

I dont know alot about this subject to be totally ohnest but the bloke at the shop told me it would be fine. Why will they crack and also what can i do to make it all work better??? any help appriciated

ollie

[bassboy]

they crack because the cones are crap and thats putting it lightly....

to be honest, there is nothing you can do to make it sound better without hearing the setup before hand...however, the only thing that i can recommend is that you set up the system so that there is NO distortion whatsoever anywhere in the system...after that, its just a matter of uprated other speakers in the car etc etc

bassboy

[niracka]

Well it doesn't distort at the moment and i'm not trying to sound like a no it all but it really does sound fuckin great, alot better than alot of my mates systems who are also running twin 12"s. Also every review of the blackair 2 subs has been good as i checked before buying em. Whats subs do u have???

Would i have to change the wiring to run it on 1 ohm as i havn't a fuckin clue lol.

ollie

[diablosvy]

they crack because the cones are crap and thats putting it lightly....

to be honest, there is nothing you can do to make it sound better without hearing the setup before hand...however, the only thing that i can recommend is that you set up the system so that there is NO distortion whatsoever anywhere in the system...after that, its just a matter of uprated other speakers in the car etc etc

bassboy

The human ear cannot detect distortion of bass frequency's. The only way to ensure the system is set up properly is to use a scope

[bassboy]

they crack because the cones are crap and thats putting it lightly....

to be honest, there is nothing you can do to make it sound better without hearing the setup before hand...however, the only thing that i can recommend is that you set up the system so that there is NO distortion whatsoever anywhere in the system...after that, its just a matter of uprated other speakers in the car etc etc

bassboy

The human ear cannot detect distortion of bass frequency's. The only way to ensure the system is set up properly is to use a scope

human ear can detect distortion u just need to know what your listening for...its difficult but with the help of a voltmeter the system can be setup safely...i have been doing this for years without a burnt coil i do agree with tiny amounts of distortion its inaudiable, but when its to such a degree where its dangerous for the speakers, its easy to hear

bassboy

[bassboy]

Well it doesn't distort at the moment and i'm not trying to sound like a no it all but it really does sound fouquette great, alot better than alot of my mates systems who are also running twin 12"s. Also every review of the blackair 2 subs has been good as i checked before buying em. Whats subs do u have???

Would i have to change the wiring to run it on 1 ohm as i havn't a fouquette clue lol.

ollie

Ollie, i used to run 2 x Pioneer 3004SPL subs...loud enough to cause hearing damage new install is not 100% decided yet but should be louder than even my old Scirocco

bassboy

[niracka]

sounds kool i'll have to pop down for a listen one day n u can have a go at setting my system up better or something

I usually dont have it turned anything like full blast anyways thaugh cos i like the whole system to sound as even and equil as possible. Spent hours setting ma equiliser presets up n stuff lol.

diablosvy - I'v got a sub sonic filter on ma amp so that helps get rid of alot of what can't b heard, which i think helps a bit.

ollie

[Bollinbrook Kid]

niracka - mounting the subs like that isn't a very good idea, with half of them covered by the tailgate..they will be loaded all wrong when your playing with the boot open.

diablosvy - you can't damage subs by underpowering them... and that isn't a bandpass box.

Vibe happen to be very reputable for their cutomer service aswell, i should know, they have paid for me to go to every show so far this year

[bassboy]

niracka - mounting the subs like that isn't a very good idea, with half of them covered by the tailgate..they will be loaded all wrong when your playing with the boot open.

diablosvy - you can't damage subs by underpowering them... and that isn't a bandpass box.

Vibe happen to be very reputable for their cutomer service aswell, i should know, they have paid for me to go to every show so far this year

whats your latest install mate?

bassboy

[diablosvy]

diablosvy - you can't damage subs by underpowering them... and that isn't a bandpass box.

When did I say it did?
Yes it is a bandpass box, it uses a tube as the port hence being called a 'bandpass'

[niracka]

well they are supposed to be facing the back of the seats really but its not going to be in there long as i am getting an rst soon but will bare it in mind for the future.

[Bollinbrook Kid]

You really don't know what bandpass means do you..

Bandpass is when the sub is 'inside' the box...like this:


It doesn't have anything to do with whether a tube or slot is used as the port, so don't roll your eyes, tool.


bassboy the system at the mo is an RE HC18, running off a Solid F2500d

[jess_09]

nice subs,but even with 1600w i doubt they would sound as loud/better as the 2000w pioneers considering the two pioneer subs have more peak and rms power output then two vibes.i just replaced the same vibes as you for one 3000w pioneer ported and it so much louder then the vibes

[bassboy]

:lol: You really don't know what bandpass means do you..

Bandpass is when the sub is 'inside' the box...like this:


It doesn't have anything to do with whether a tube or slot is used as the port, so don't roll your eyes, tool.


bassboy the system at the mo is an RE HC18, running off a Solid F2500d

kool mate...should sound rather interesting cant wait for my new install to be done

bassboy

[niracka]

been offline for a while lol. I have decided that i needs a better amp lol or to find a way of getting more out of it if i can as its only on 600watts i think were as it [ERRR] run 1300watts any help please give

[richard_p88]

how much Bass can Metro need

Are any other of the speakers replaced? Upgrading them would most likely be a better use of money, as i imagine 2 ported 12''s sound quite heavy already.

[Oranoco]

how much Bass can Metro need

Enough to move the car when the headgasket fails

[niracka]

well its well loud lol but if i can make it louder i would like to. i dont wanna change the front speakers or anything cos i'm putting the sub into ma frst when i get her and getting front and rear component speakers instead of my 6x9s as the sound quality will be better.

ollie