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Postby Asad on Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:10 pm

I was thinking of either more hardener, or just let leave it for longer before applying.

Hopefully it will all go well. I might just do it in stages, top first then the other half. Will have to see what works best! :D
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Postby Asad on Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:12 pm

OrionZetec :Id try jb welding from the inside. Put a tiny amount on 1st then build it up slowly. You could wait a while till it goes tacky then apply it?
No worry about the screws, the offers there if you want some


Thanks for the offer mate, I'll keep it in mind!

The only concern I have about applying it on the inside is the disturbance to the air flow that I might introduce from stray JB weld etc. I might just stick with apply to the outside.
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Postby Max M4X WW on Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:19 pm

Im sure it would be smoother inside however you apply it in there!
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Postby FezzR on Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:19 pm

if i was you i would apply between the two ends, inside and outside. then smooth best possible, that way you get strength too
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Postby McNugget on Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:25 pm

I would not use the jb weld from the inside. What if its not tight enough and it flies into the combustion chamber? You could seriously damage your engine with this!

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BTW: nice work... I happy to see further updates :)
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Postby Asad on Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:10 pm

A quick update:-

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Postby heeman10 on Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:38 pm

I keep forgetting to check this thread! Sounds as though it's going to work really well! Good stuff, you must be pleased :aviator:
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Postby FezzR on Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:17 pm

clean your keyboard ya minger
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Postby Asad on Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:19 pm

LOL

Second person who has to me to clean it!


NO! Dont think it will come off anyhow! lol
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Postby Asad on Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:47 pm

The JB Weld has hardened so I started to put it back together.

Those reducers are going nowhere! JB Weld does exactly what it says on the tin!

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Close up:-

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I put it into the manifold and it was a good fit.....Phew!


Need a few things.

Some decent Vacuum pipe (Silicon-red?)
Plugs for the 4 original Vacuum take offs
4 Jubilee Clips
4 Bolts for the top support


And a few more little things im sure I will come across.

Im thinking of using the same vacuum that I have for the servo, for the crankcase breather. But I dont want to put too much fumes back in. Will have to decide once its on and running.

Also need to decide if I will implement a remote ISCV.

Fingers crossed for getting it done this weekend!


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Postby FezzR on Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:51 pm

you blocking the other take of pipe?

use vacuum for servo, take all breathers to a catch tank then vent to atmosphere.

ISCV is inevitable i would think, you will need some control one way or another
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Postby Asad on Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:56 pm

I will be blocking the 4 take offs because they arent much use on closed throttle. Will block them with bungs so could always make use of them later.

Will try breathing to atmosphere first, but will see how it affects my idle.

ISCV is not a problem to mount remotely. Will see if I can tune around it - Warmup enrichment etc.

All will have to be determined once its all up an running... no show stoppers!


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Postby FezzR on Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:59 pm

Asad :I will be blocking the 4 take offs because they arent much use on closed throttle. Will block them with bungs so could always make use of them later.

Will try breathing to atmosphere first, but will see how it affects my idle.

ISCV is not a problem to mount remotely. Will see if I can tune around it - Warmup enrichment etc.

All will have to be determined once its all up an running... no show stoppers!


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the main problem people get with breathing to atmosphere is either ecu not prepared for it ( no prob for you) or lack of suitable one way valves
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Postby Asad on Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:01 pm

Ahh cool

Sounds good then :D
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Postby McNugget on Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:11 pm

You meen this tube here?
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If not: How will you solve this? Catch the oil with a tank?

Very nice work so far!

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Postby Asad on Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:13 pm

No not that tube.

Theres a crankcase breather on the front of the block. On my car, it goes to the inlet manifold, behind the coilpack.

Shouldnt be too much of a problem.
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Postby FezzR on Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:38 pm

wheres the cam breather go to then? they all usually go to inlet one way or another, better when they dont tho
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Postby Asad on Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:41 am

Cam Breather will vent to atmosphere, as it does now.


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Postby FezzR on Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:05 pm

Asad :Cam Breather will vent to atmosphere, as it does now.


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via catch tank always better
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Postby Asad on Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:41 pm

Started fitting them today...

Came across the usual rubbish that delays things....but heres a sneak peak :-

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Plenty of room! (PHEW!) :-

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Suits it! :-

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Need to get some manifold bolts from Ford. If I cant get them today, then it wont be running this weekend :(

But it does seem very easy to do!


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Postby mike-xr2i- on Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:05 pm

whwre u guna get the air feeds from/to, and wont u need filters on them ?
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Postby jdfiesta on Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:43 pm

looking good. cant you use the manifold bolts for the efi inlet?
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Postby ant pittaway on Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:46 pm

mate, that is awesome, thinking about doin the same to mine this winter :)
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Postby purple_fiesta on Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:28 pm

:D Good Job! Dream engine for mine :D
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Postby FezzR on Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:57 pm

id be very tempted to fit 45 or 90 degree bends between the manifold and throttle bodies, you say there is loads of room but in terms of air flow there is very little room
looking good tho
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Postby McNugget on Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:02 pm

Yeah man! :)

Looks very nice! And there is much more room left than I thought. :P

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Postby Asad on Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:38 pm

FezzR :id be very tempted to fit 45 or 90 degree bends between the manifold and throttle bodies, you say there is loads of room but in terms of air flow there is very little room
looking good tho


Was thinking maybe pipes on the end of the throttle bodies. Its not right up againts the firewall though, and I reckon I could get something in there.

But if you see Graham Bs fiesta, he has less room than me!

Still, enough room for a plenum if turbocharged! :wink:

Ford were closed for the day so no bolts until Monday/Tuesday. My fault really as I assumed the EFI ones would fit. But they are too long.

So I will be sorting out fuel pipes etc and throttle cable and leave the bolts till when I get them!

Oh, and my Oil pressure/temp gauge :-

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The other thing I noticed was the amount of oil in the inlet pathways!

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I was expecting some, but I was surprised at the actual amount. I will be routing both cam and block breathers to some sort of catch tank and venting to atmosphere.


Thanks for all the comments!


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Postby FezzR on Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:23 pm

glad about your choice on catch tank, ally one are cheap as chips on egay, descent branded ones are about 50 i think

been thinking and if you removed the bulk head pannel you could fit small kink between manifold and throttle body as i said and then would have load of room for air flow, could even fit a scoop to pull all down throw the grill

do like your engine bay, when its done bit of tidying and will be great
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Postby andyhardy on Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:35 pm

Looks great mate - can I ask you where you got the T-piece for the oil pressure/temperature sender, I'm guessing that's a 1/8" NPT union jobby yeah?

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Postby purple_fiesta on Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:36 pm

cant you just carefully cut the bolts down?
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Postby Asad on Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:46 pm

Cant cut the bolts down as they are not threaded all the way. Besides, i'd rather get the correct ones. Only a couple of days wait.

Andy - I got the bits from Burtons. Ill get the exact details for you tomorrow as the packaging is in the car.

The pic is the Pressure take off. I got a dual gauge which has the temp sender attached. This I was told replaces the sump plug.



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Postby OrionZetec on Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:49 pm

Looks amazing m8 :)
Hope it goes just as well :)
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Postby andyhardy on Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:08 am

Was going to say - when searching for gauges and senders I'd not seen a dual pressure and temperature one.

I'll have a look in the Burtons catalogue I've got next to me here for that adapter - if you can get the part number that would be great :)

Bet you can't wait to try it out - how is it to map?

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Postby andymac on Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:32 am

Asad :Cant cut the bolts down as they are not threaded all the way. Besides, i'd rather get the correct ones. Only a couple of days wait.


Or could put about 20 washers on to space it out for those couple of days... :D :lol:
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Postby Asad on Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:01 am

Probably need a touch more than 20!

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Andy -

LMA011 - Oil Gauge T-Piece Short
1/4NPT * 1/4NPT * 1/8NPT

LMA007
Oil Pipe Adaptor
1/8BSP to 1/8NPT

Remeber though, that this doesnt provide a temperature reading.

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You can see that the temp sender is attached to the dial, and apparently plugs into the sump.



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