Megasquirt ECU Fitted!Throttle Bodies Running!New Head!!PG10

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Postby Asad on Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:48 pm

Tru

Two pipes need cutting of, and new ones put in place to straigten the path :-

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Might ask another place.



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Postby McNugget on Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:51 pm

like mine :D

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Postby FezzR on Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:57 pm

cheapist option as i see it is using pre made, bends and straight bits and do all the cutting to shape yourself, not difficult and judging by the rest of this post your more than capable, then get someone with a mig welder to weld all your bits

you could either do that with the st170 or make a whold new one from scratch using the st170 as a template

something along the lines of using http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p_exhausts_inner.html
apart from not jetex bits as there rip off, did have some links to good places but there all dead or lost :x shall have to back track them later when its too dark to port me head :Q
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Postby Max M4X WW on Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:10 pm

Looks good, New header tanks are not much i dont think or find a nice clean one like mine :P

Couple of quid for a battery cover from ford as well :D
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Postby Zetecfiesta on Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:54 pm

i thought about the st170 manifold but like you i couldnt find anybody to sort it for a reasonable price!!
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Postby DanS2i on Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:07 pm

Asad can you tell me where you got your small red hoses and connectors that you are using for your vacuum pipe from?

Thanks

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Postby Asad on Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:10 pm

Hi

I got the thicker hose from Burtons, and the thinner one from Ebay.
As for the connectors, i assume u mean the actual ones in the pipes. They cam with the throttle bodies, but I got a couple extra from the local motor factors.

If you asking about the actual vacuum take offs, they are small copper pipes JB welded in place!


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Postby purple_fiesta on Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:21 pm

that qaulity mate, fookin love it
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Postby OrionZetec on Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:41 pm

Top quality job asad :)
Mucho Impresso seniuro :aviator:
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Postby phil_pearce on Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:01 pm

This is such a good post, any ideas on the power output yet? Also do you know any good supplyers in the uk for the Megasquirt v3? I need to get one! :D
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Postby DaveZetec on Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:10 pm

Asad :Tru

Two pipes need cutting of, and new ones put in place to straigten the path :-

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Might ask another place.



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Those pipes are that length for a reason, if you cut them down you'll lose most of the gain from having the tuned manifold.

Can you not have them bend outwards to the sides? or extend the manifold to keep them the right length and have the rest of the exhaust 10 inches shorter to make up for it?

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Postby Asad on Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:14 pm

Hi,

I was thinking about rewelding the other way, but may touch the alternator. Other issue is it touching the cross member.

As for shorter length, worst thing it will be the same as all others! just like McNugget's one.

But a lot cheaper.


If anyone seriously wants a kit, PM and ill give you details of a supplier.


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Postby McNugget on Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:15 pm

But remember, I have a high performance exhaust manifold. Its the best you can get for this engine in Germany!

BTW: Any updates?
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Postby krestudon on Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:20 pm

any news about this???
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Postby Asad on Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:48 pm

Well, car is still running fine and the same with Megasquirt.

I sorted out the no spark advance issue, and I managed to get 7.4s to 60 at brunters!

As it stands, I still need to replace the restrictive exhaust manifold. Still have the ST170 so Im going to ask my mate if hes up for a weekend of welding.

I also have had this to go on for a couple of weeks:-

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I have had a head worked to STG2 and skimmed - hoping to get around 11:1 compression ratio. The main thing I wanted done though was the ports matched to a ST170 inlet manifold. As you can see, the inlet ports have been worked to suit. The flow from the injectors are now directed towards the valves.

This should improve things a lot as I suspect at the moment the top of the standard Zetec port is somewhat restricting the flow.

I also have a pair of Kent 278 cams to go in. So this should give me a nice improvement in response as well as power.

Just need to get around to fitting it......
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Postby RS_BOB on Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:03 pm

looking good there fella and sounds like good times from brunters too

any vids from there from anyone would love to hear the sound of those bodies

in process of collecting various parts for same converion just hunting for the gsxr1000 bodies there a bugger to get hold of at the mo.

with the cams head and st17 manifold fitted should be looking at a healthy power figure is there a specific bhp your aiming for ?
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Postby Asad on Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:50 pm

Cheers mate.

I have some footage, just need to encode them.

Im not aiming for a specific figure TBH, but I should improve response from the whole range with the head, exhaust etc.

But still, hoping for around 180ish.

As for times, I reckon I could get closer to 7s with practice, and hopefully get into high 6s with head and exhaust. Want to stop there with mods too! lol

Its just a case of getting where im happy :D


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Postby chris-fiesta on Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:51 pm

head looks stonking m8, surprised it aint on yet tho! combine that with the cams and the ST exhaust and the car will be sweet as :wink:

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Postby ScottP on Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:18 am

nice work ASAD, you should get 180 easily.

Asad, what have you done for the inlet air temp sensor?

cheers :D
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awesome work guys i like the progress! keep up the work!

Postby turbooptions.com on Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:25 am

awesome sutff@@@ reading all night long couldnt come off the posts are amazing detailed work! thanks
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awesome work guys i like the progress! keep up the work!

Postby turbooptions.com on Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:25 am

awesome sutff@@@ reading all night long couldnt come off the posts are amazing detailed work! thanks
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Postby Asad on Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:53 am

ScottP :nice work ASAD, you should get 180 easily.

Asad, what have you done for the inlet air temp sensor?

cheers :D


Thanks for the comments.

The inlet temp is currently sitting against the firewall, next to the throttle bodies. I dont have an air filter on there at the moment but hoping to fit an ITG Megaflow one. Then I will mount it in the bracket.

Ill get an updated pic of my engine bay soon :)


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Postby SimonT on Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:02 am

Truley excellent mate. Spent the morning just reading back through this post!

Lovely project! Just the sort of thing I'd of loved to have done with my fez when she was about!

Dam it I want another!
Too old and too bald.
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Postby krestudon on Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:12 pm

hi, asad; can you tell me the usefull diferences between an v2.2 megasquirt with the megasquirt s'n's or megasquirt n' edis firmwares and a v3 pcb?

advantages of keeping or removing edis?

does the standard ford ecu use sequential inyection?

i have a standard rs1800 and i'm going to build a megasquirt as a base for learning as much as i can about the engine and as a start for modifiyin it, but i'm spanish and don't understand everything in the oficial web.
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Postby Asad on Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:46 pm

hi,

Standard Ford ECU does use Sequential injector. Megasquirt does not (maybe will include in later firmware). Very small power difference with Seq injection, but you do get better economy low down.

V3 can control the coil directly. You have more control over dwell etc.

V3 is a better design overall. But with 2.2 you could use your existing loom.

In terms of use, you will find no difference for your engine between v2.2 and v3 once running.


HTH


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Postby Badgerboy on Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:19 pm

Assuming I had no loom in the bay, other than what comes attached to the engine (Zetec), what would be the better route. A V3 MS with everthing spliced into it?

(I only want to do ignition for the mo, but will look at fuelling later. I'm on twin carbs, so I have no ECU etc at the mo)
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Postby Asad on Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:07 pm

Badgerboy :Assuming I had no loom in the bay, other than what comes attached to the engine (Zetec), what would be the better route. A V3 MS with everthing spliced into it?

(I only want to do ignition for the mo, but will look at fuelling later. I'm on twin carbs, so I have no ECU etc at the mo)


I would go for V3. Its a better design, and can run your ignition without the need for EDIS.

Took some pics of my engine bay too :-

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And my clocks :-

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Postby ScottP on Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:15 pm

does the sensor have to be in the inlet track or can it be near to it?

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Postby Asad on Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:10 pm

Hi,

It doesnt need to be in the inlet tract. The temperature difference on either side of the throttle is minimal.

Its more critical on a turbo'd car though.


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Postby ScottP on Fri Apr 21, 2006 7:10 pm

are the clocks fitted to the standard mk3 dash?

how much work with the wiring was required
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Postby SamT on Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:07 pm

flippin ace mate :Q
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Postby Asad on Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:26 pm

Yeah the clocks are fitted to the standard mk3 dash.

Contrary to most guides, quite a bit of cutting of both the clocks and the dash was required!

Luckily its plastic so no biggie. Wiring was easy as I used a piece of copper board as an adaptor. The same method used in the guides forum.

Im actually thinking of using the unused warning lamps with megasquirt. Definitely for the Warmup indicator (Tells you when the engine is in warmup mode). And possibly for a shift light.

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Postby ScottP on Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:51 pm

how many 'spare' lights are there?

does the normal engine temp guage (bottom right) work?

I am buying a 1.1 fezza for a base. If i fitted megasquirt (to a 1.6 SE) and totally removed the OE ECU, what functions would i loose? i.e. interior light or even wiper functions??
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Postby Asad on Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:59 pm

I think there are two. at the very least I dont need the airbag warning light.

And yes the engine temp guage works. I just want to use the indicator from megasquirt to tell me when its appying warmup fueling etc.

As for the functions you mention, I dont not believe they are controlled by the ECU.


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Postby ant pittaway on Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:44 am

still lookin ace mate! :)
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