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[DJMattyT]

Hi,

EBAY LINK: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 8032760252

I have fully built and tested Megasquirt's with wiring harnesses and comm cables+ software CDs for sale. Me and a friend are buying these in bulk from the US, assembling and then selling, so I can take multiple orders.

It is ready to run Both FUEL and SPARK! Fully 3D mappable with 144 map sites!! Multiple maps support (Race/Economy etc) and hundreds of other features!

Why pay £180 for a superchip? You could have a fully mappable reuasable system for only a few quid more! It comes with manual and labeleled wires so easy to link into your existing loom! (I mean REALLY easy!) You set it up yourself with a laptop, it works by checkiong if engine is leaning/riching and adjusts the fuel map accordingly . .then you can play with spark advance etc depending on both MAP and RPM)

It has inbuilt adjustable rev limiter etc etc etc really loads of features. (MS'n'S if you know about them already.)

They are set up and ready to run ford EDIS (ie you dont need to fiddle with trigger discs etc as your engine already has these (incl CVH XR2i).

If you send us your zetec/cvh loom we can add the new connector onto it for an extra £30. (ie plug and play!)

Look at http://www.megasquirt.info for more information. It does the lot anyway NOS, launch control, and has built in MAP sensor for up to 2.5Bar (Zetec turbo I hear you say!) It will support ay number of injectors etc, and will run either N/A or Turbo applications. Its very easy to set up using closed-loop lambda control! Also very suited for throttle bodies!

We are looking for around £230 a unit and if a few of you get together we can offer group discount!

Free postage too!

Cheers guys and just once again, we have an unlimited supply, so I can take multiple orders/offers (PM the offers but £230will let you have one delivered to your doorstep! Payment by paypal/check etc

Cheers again,
Matt Thorne
Ben Hunt

[JimmyBoy]

What version board are you using ?

Do they come in the standard silver casing?

Presume you are using the MS'n'S firmware?, not the MS-II firmware?

Would you consider selling these with a 3 bar map sensor installed?

Would you consider selling the simulator as well? and if so, how much?

Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks!

[DJMattyT]

Hi mate, no cheers for the questions, hopefully will answer a few in one hit!

The version of the Board is 2.2. We also have the V3 boards for sale, but of course these cost more: (£265 per unit)

They come in the standard silver casing with proffesionally machined ends.

They use the MS'n'S firmware (And set up to run EDIS but we can alter this if you wish)

We can upgrade you to MS-II for an extra £80

We can sort you with a 3Bar sensor but will obviously need to source a suitable one first!

The stimulator can be offered too at £39.99 built when ordering a unit.

I can also set the unit up to work with standard CVH or Zetec Temperature sensors which again reduces the fiddling!

Hope that helps.
Matt Thorne

[DJMattyT]

Oh and if you dont want the harness, so you just get the proper,plug to which to solderon your current loom, we can do the v2.2's for £200 and the V3's for £235!! Well cheap!

They come with a wiring diagram and we will put together one for the Zetec Loom and CVH 8v 2i Loom as well so will be a case of linking one to the other! You could always just splice into the current loom and remove the OE ECU when using the MS so you can revert to the OE ECU at any time for economy driving etc, and then plug in the MS and remove the OE ECU for track days and 1/4mi runs etc!

Matty

[JimmyBoy]

Thanks for the reply mate.

It's something that im looking into at the moment, but wont actually be in the market for buying one for a couple of months yet, im just forward planning.

Thanks for your time, and nearer the time I will let you know.

This may/may not be of use to you, for sensors (including 3 bar map sensor)

http://www.rs-autosport.com/#sensors
http://www.electromotive-inc.com/sensors.html

[DJMattyT]

In responce to some questions that have come up:

How much for a system for my car??
Depending on what you want. If you have an EFi engine with EDIS, then you will have a 3D Fully Mappable Injection and Ignition controller for £200! This can run N/A opr turbo applications that run up to 21psi of boost, with no change of the unit if you decide to turbop an NA car, you just re-map it!

What do i get for my money??
You will get the Megasquirt Unit, loaded with the Squirt-n-Spark code, A CD with all the mapping and tuning software on it, and a Comm cable to link it to a laptop/pc. For an extra £30 we can adapt YOUR current Zetec or CVH loom to plug straight in, otherwise you get a plug with about 16 labelled wires coming out of it.

And is it straight forward to fit??
If you want the loom doing then its just plug in, Map it, and party! If however you would just like the standard option of the plug with wires, then you simply match wiores to each part, They are all labelled so its easy, You just look in the back of a Haynes and if it says pjn 25 on ther ECU is the fuel pump, then find the wire with the label 'Fuel Pump' on it on the MS, and connect them together. We will be posting the pin numbers and connections soon, but until then just use the haynes. Maybe a couple of hours from start to finish.

What injectors can i run on your systems?? i.e dark greens
You can run ANY injector/amount of injectors. You simple alter the 'Fueling Data' in the tuning software for the current flow rates of your new i njectors. These are usually labelled or we can have it pre-set for standard 2.0L Zetec i njector flow rates. (lbs/hour or cc/min)

what the deal with mapping them, could i take it to for example, motorsport development for mapping or do i do it my self with a lap top and software???
Yes, any decent tuning company will be able to map it for you, but it can easily be done yourself using a laptop and the supplied software. Simply drive it down the road, watch the lamdba feedback, if it goes lean, increase the fuel, too rich then you decrease the fuel. Do this up and the down the road for an afternoon at different RPM's and throttle positions and you will have a perfect 3D map! (There are 144 differnt 'sites' that is 12x RPM by 12x MAP points on the graph that you can adjust.) You can also record the data to alter the map later, ie if you take it round a track tyou can analyse the data later to optimise areas that you cant get to on the normal 'legal' road!

[mike_wall15]

I'm half tempted by this, but I've got in the back of my head I'll probably want to get rid of the car soon

Any idea what sort of power/torque increases I could see with my 2.0L N/A?

Also, if I was to do this, I'd be tempted to be cheeky and come to your uni and get you to do it all there and then, would that be possible? What sort of cost?

I'd want it wired so it'd be easy to return it all to standard.

And with mapping, I'd need to find a mate to sit in the passenger seat while I drive yes? Or can I drive round and record all the info and then analyse the perfect map in the comfort of my home?

Mike

[DJMattyT]

You will see the maximuj potential that your engine can put out, so really depends on the engine, but rmember ford etc limit it s**t loads so I would imagine a nice healthy increase. throttle reposnse will of course be improved as you can tailor acceleration enrichment etc to your own needs.

I dont see no reason why we coundt come and put it al ltogether for you. IF you sent us your loom we could add the connector in-line to it, so you can choose to run MS or standard ECU and change whenever. As with the ampping yes both options are there, either Live Map, or after Map, and of course this can be done at home. I perosnally have sveryal different maps that I load on when I want to, ie if I'm heading home from uni I put the super skint student economy map on, if we head to Bruntingthrope for a day of racing I put the stupid fuel sucking one on. Good fun either way!

As to cost of having me set it up, will reallyu depend on how long it takes to get the map just right, as I choose to leave it always recording then eview it every weekend to get it JUST right. (Very gradual changes even down to when to I do an oil change actually show up as different repsonse times etc!)

Cheers,
Matty

[mike_wall15]

Thanks for the reply mate, I might decide after getting it RR'd in a few weeks. I was more thinking about driving to you to take the loom off and wire it in place, then fiddle with mapping myself when home. That way I wouldn't have to bother with the post, be without my car, or worry that it wouldn't work, woudl this be possible? I guess it depends how long it takes to remove the loom and do some wiring!

Mike

[DJMattyT]

Hi Mate it would prob take a couple of hours to do the loom i should imagine. And then I suppose you could drive it home on ur ECU. Yeah if we say If you want to make a good offer I am sure we can sortsomething out mate.

Cheers,
Matty

[DJMattyT]

Hi Mate it would prob take a couple of hours to do the loom i should imagine. And then I suppose you could drive it home on ur ECU. Yeah if we say If you want to make a good offer I am sure we can sortsomething out mate.

Cheers,
Matty

[mike_wall15]

Cheers Matty, I'll think about it all, thanks for your quick responses. I just have to decide whether it is worth ploughing more money into it or not

[DJMattyT]

Okay guys just put one on ebay. The buy it now is £199.99 and this includes a loom with a foot or so of wire each labelled up and the comms cable and Software CD.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 8032760252

Cheers,
Matty

[chumkila]

Seeing as you can offer Group Discount, can you also offer to sponser this site by becoming an "official" trader?

Before posting to sell in bulk you should contact the Site Admin (if you haven't already done so) as you're liable to be banned mate.

I have nothing against you selling on here, in fact its good to see you making use of Megasquirt but there are traders on here that pay good money to sell their products.

RSpec'

P.S. anyone who disagrees with me, sod off.

[DJMattyT]

Hey yeah, I dont mind at all. Sounds like a good way to wdvertise to be fair. The group buy thing would only really take off iof we made a couple of provate sales, but if we see it going well then FT will definately get some credit from the sales!

Cheers,
Matty

[DJMattyT]

A bit of wiring clarification, This is how we would do it so you can select which ECU to use, OEM or MS. This is what you would do if you wanted to do it yourself, or you can cut the OEM ECU right off and just run MS, really up to you and really this easy!



EDIS: The CPS sensor and Coil packls are directly wired to the EDIS module, there are only around 4 actual wires going to the ECU, Earth, Ign, PIP, and SAW. These are of course labelled and you can again find out the colours of these wires from the haynes.

This is visible by disconnecting the PIP and SAW lines from the EDIS module in your current OEM setup. The result is the engine will still spark at a fixed 10* BTDC.

The wires from the OEM ECU can be found in the back of a haynes, each is labelled/can be followed to see what it does.

MAPPING:
In terms of mapping, if you have a Zetec loom 9with lamdba sensor then your good to go in terms of DIY mapping. The OFAB looms adn XR2i looms dont have a lambda sensor so you will need to weld a nut into your downpipe to put a lambda sensor in. This is ONLY for mapping, as the MS can run with feedback, but it is not required for operation. Of course if you take it a rolling road for mapping, they put a lambda sensor in the exhaust and adjust the map to reach stoich (perfect mix of fuel and air). Sp heres your options:
Zetec Owners with Lamdba, your good to go DIY + Rolling Road mapping
OFAB/OFAC XR2i (without lambda) You will wither need to weld in an exhaust mount for a lambda probe in your downpipe (£15 from scrap yard for a standard ford lamdba sensor) and then you can DIY map. The lamdba sensor goes directly to labelled wires coming from the MS, so you dont need to worry about Loom changes. Or just go to a decent rolling road using your orinigal ECU to get there whack in the MS and let them map it for you!

Hope that answers all the questions I've been getting!

Cheers

[DJMattyT]

Just got some more questions, so here are some more answers!

Q: Just a bit of background about my car first, mine is an Escort Mk6 with a 2.0L Zetec, and is N/A. So it is a pretty standard setup but still running the old ECU of 1.6L before the 2.0L was put in - and that's why I want to replace it with a MegaSquirts.
A:
The other person who I am working with has a fiesta 1800 zetec that we converted to MS because of him putting in a 2.0 block, and needing the extra fueling. So this is common and straight forawrd.

Q1. What is involved in fitting? Except slicing the loom, do I need other stuff? Like extra lamdba, extra temp sensors, modifying the EDIS system, etc... or is it just plug and play?
A:
If your car already has a lambda sensor, then know you dont need one. The EDIS is left alone, no playing with trigger discs etc as the Zetec already has everything there. We will set the MS up to work with your standard Coolent and IAT sensors, so in essence it is plug and play.

Q2. How much do you charge for fitting EVERYTHING? Although fitting looks easy and I have experience in electrics/electronics, I am not too familiar with MegaSquirts and I might mess something up...
A:
If you post us your loom we can do mate it up to the MS, or if you bring your car to Loughborough (J23 M1) then we can install it for you. Price depends on application but if we say £20 an hour (usually only take a maximum of 3 hours), but problems do arise as always with fords! We will leave actual mounting of the MS unit up to you, we'll just wire ti all up so your ready to begin mapping.

3. Do you know how much do other people charge for mapping on MegaSquirts? (on a rolling road or live mapping)
A:
Again really does depend on the place but can be very expensive! If youhave a lamdba sensor you may as well make your own map up and then have it 'fine tuned' at a rolling road.

4. Whereabouts are you? In case you do fitting and I need to come to you.
Loughborough J23 off the M1. About 15 miles from Nottingham

[~nomad~]

Seeing as you can offer Group Discount, can you also offer to sponser this site by becoming an "official" trader?

Before posting to sell in bulk you should contact the Site Admin (if you haven't already done so) as you're liable to be banned mate.

I have nothing against you selling on here, in fact its good to see you making use of Megasquirt but there are traders on here that pay good money to sell their products.

RSpec'

P.S. anyone who disagrees with me, sod off.

have to agree with this mate, prob a good idea to contact Ade, this site costs him money personally every month, so its only fair anyone making money in a business sense on here sound be paying. Plus you get a banner

[andymac]

There's an implication that you're purchasing in bulk in order to secure discounts and thus operate as a trader.

While there's nothing wrong with that at all, it's unfair on other traders on the board to trade on here in this manner as the regular traders make a financial contribution toward the running of the board in return for trader status (so you don't look like some random) and banner advertising.

Please contact Ade (adrian@fiestaturbo.com) as soon as possible in order to clarify the level of business you intend to put through the board and whether or not he feels a trader status will be required (it's his board & site, after all).

[DJMattyT]

Ok, for the time being there wont be any group discounts or anything, just the chance to buy megasquirts from us. We cant offer to sponser the site as of yet due to the fact thatw e havent actually made any profit through FT. But if we do find it to be successful then I will definately look into sponsorship/and or trador status. As you can see I am just a normal member, and have posted abnut normal topics, Just thought I'd see what the interest was in terms of selling MS's to the FT community.

Cheers hope that clears my intentions up,
Matty

[andymac]

You've already stated your intention to buy in bulk and sell on which is trader-like activity (as it's not nfp).

My comments are fairly clear, I thought. Go talk to the boss man

[AdrianFRST]

We're all sorted.

[Asad]

Just a note,

You may have issues with Si owners with Internal EDIS.

Good luck with sales.


Asad

[jdfiesta]

Just a note,

You may have issues with Si owners with Internal EDIS.

Good luck with sales.


Asad

i was thinking this myself. all the talk so far has been just wire your edis up to the megasquirt and away you go. not so on the Si, the EDIS is internal to the ECU. would the megasquirt be suited to running this?
JJ

[DJMattyT]

The internal EDIS will obviously be removed when you remove the old ECU. You will need to get an EDIS kit from the scrab yard (Only the module which is about £5 lol) and wire it up that way. Hope that clarifies.

Oh we can can also add the module to the order for an extra £5 if needs be.

Matt

[siace]

i have 48mm gsxr bike tb's i wanna run on my 2.0 zetec in the near future, its in a fezza si, how difficult is it to change from int-edis to ext-edis???

[DJMattyT]

Straightforward. You Just need to obtain an EDIS module from the scrapyard, or we can supply. You already have the Coil packs and VR sensor, and we will include a wiring diagram for you. Matt

[DJMattyT]

Please see here for the 'summing up' of ordering etc.

http://www.fiestaturbo.com/forums/viewt ... p?t=122672

Cheers lads,
Matty

[HaggisTurbo]

is this only for zetecs ?

I own a mondeo 2.5 V6 Duratec 24valve 6 cylinder, as far as i am aware this uses edis as well would i encounter problems getting megasquirt and much am i looking at cheers.

[Dazza]

PM sent and free bump

[luke89]

this sounds very good , im in the proces of doing a 1.8 zetec convertion with some mods such as pipe de-cat 2.0ltr TB filter 130ps cams, this is going in my si , would i still need to use a MAF or is this removed? i will be intuch soon ( looking for a new job as im out of work atm ) and will i see a good gain using this ?
thanks

[GaryFRST220]

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8036648375&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

[DJMattyT]

Just letting you all know we now have a sort of basic website up, its at

http://www.mtechautomotive.co.uk

You can buy online there and stuff too, but we need to get the rest of our products up. Any queries I can be reached via sales@mtechautomotive.co.uk

Cheers,
Matt