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Re: My fiesta
acceleration would be rapid on a 1.3 box, and also the smooth boot is always better in my opinion mk5 lks awesome with it
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Re: My fiesta
chers guys, f**k lol a 1.1 box for a 2.0l that would be mental
guess ill save my money and use my box then
little update
a nice snowy pic from up the bolch not too far from me
heres the dash now completely red illumination
and the big one:
before, first time it aint had a spoiler on since FiTP
now on the new boot, connecting the demister
the multi pins
drilling for the spoiler under the caps
once bolted up to the car, put the plugged washer hose back in but its inactive, better than a hole there
fitted the boot release, had a little problem where it didnt work right, something wrong with the wiring, so now ive run the power through the boot pins and added a better earth, since its painted and had a poor earth
and then the latch
the result well if i were to keep the spoiler off
by the time i got the spoiler bolted on it was too dark to take a pic
merry christmas all
guess ill save my money and use my box then
little update
a nice snowy pic from up the bolch not too far from me
heres the dash now completely red illumination
and the big one:
before, first time it aint had a spoiler on since FiTP
now on the new boot, connecting the demister
the multi pins
drilling for the spoiler under the caps
once bolted up to the car, put the plugged washer hose back in but its inactive, better than a hole there
fitted the boot release, had a little problem where it didnt work right, something wrong with the wiring, so now ive run the power through the boot pins and added a better earth, since its painted and had a poor earth
and then the latch
the result well if i were to keep the spoiler off
by the time i got the spoiler bolted on it was too dark to take a pic
merry christmas all
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Re: My fiesta
Hmm. Looks good however I can't help but feel that somethings not right (ignoring the spoiler of course). Anyway, good job matey!
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Re: My fiesta
loks good mate
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Re: My fiesta
jonyb4 :lol i know its gonna be a mission lol, but for the 2.0l thing, its just done too often, 2.0l si here and there
so you are going to fit the lesser powered, costs about the same to buy, looks almost exactly the same and is exactly the same amount of hassle to fit 1.8 over a 2ltr?? Just to be different??? Madness
Boot looks good thou.
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Re: My fiesta
well theres a few more niggly things like the sump, flywheel and oil filter, you can get the same kinda bhp figures at lower end scales if you follow, like with spending little money, like they both can have 130 bhp on standard parts
and the fact this deal popped up and was to good to be true lol, if it were a 2.0l id have gotten that one lol
and the fact this deal popped up and was to good to be true lol, if it were a 2.0l id have gotten that one lol
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Re: My fiesta
ite mate, you got a pic of the back of your grill so i can see how you stuck your mesh on? cheers
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Re: My fiesta
umm no i dont sorry, basicly after you have used a hack saw blade or a jigsaw (what i used) to cut the slats out, bend the mesh wire over the surround and normally it stays still, but since mines almost a year old now its lost its structure a bit and bends in the middle, i did try to use double sided pads but they dont hodl it too well lol
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Boot looks good! Just need to colour code the plastics on the bumpers now i think!
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Re: My fiesta
yea i agree
but its too cold to spray outside atm
how the car looks in light with spoiler on
some progress today, my engine arrive
by the ebay seller, cost £30 for delievery
according to andy/aw3k, it could be out of the GTi as the exhaust manifold lacks the egr valves, and it could even be the 130spec
ill let the pics do the talking
as you can see the car had A/C
suprisingly clean under here, apart from theres water in where the plugs are
so started to soak it up using good old bounty
cams look good, no unusual wear or heatspots
i then started to strip the engine down
once off witht he manifold, then removed the gasket
most will wonder where the missing lead has gone, well i pulled the lead otuof the cap as it was vaccumed in by the water, ive been todl the 1.6 si ones will fit and work fine, luckly i still have mine from my old si
is these not the best rocker badge ever? so good looking
as it stands now
"1.8" cast on block
video of engine turning, was nice and solid at tdc so im happy theres compression there
http://s521.photobucket.com/albums/w332/jonyb4/?action=view¤t=Video0021.flv
the engine also come with the running gear, so brakes (240mm), suspension, both half shafts, cross memeber and PAS rack and piping
anyone need any of this let me know, can do them ultra cheap
discs are a little past it
tomorrow gotta drop oil, remove filter and gife it a good "GUNK" clean and pressure wash, lol remidn me to gaffer tape the ports
Jon
but its too cold to spray outside atm
how the car looks in light with spoiler on
some progress today, my engine arrive
by the ebay seller, cost £30 for delievery
according to andy/aw3k, it could be out of the GTi as the exhaust manifold lacks the egr valves, and it could even be the 130spec
ill let the pics do the talking
as you can see the car had A/C
suprisingly clean under here, apart from theres water in where the plugs are
so started to soak it up using good old bounty
cams look good, no unusual wear or heatspots
i then started to strip the engine down
once off witht he manifold, then removed the gasket
most will wonder where the missing lead has gone, well i pulled the lead otuof the cap as it was vaccumed in by the water, ive been todl the 1.6 si ones will fit and work fine, luckly i still have mine from my old si
is these not the best rocker badge ever? so good looking
as it stands now
"1.8" cast on block
video of engine turning, was nice and solid at tdc so im happy theres compression there
http://s521.photobucket.com/albums/w332/jonyb4/?action=view¤t=Video0021.flv
the engine also come with the running gear, so brakes (240mm), suspension, both half shafts, cross memeber and PAS rack and piping
anyone need any of this let me know, can do them ultra cheap
discs are a little past it
tomorrow gotta drop oil, remove filter and gife it a good "GUNK" clean and pressure wash, lol remidn me to gaffer tape the ports
Jon
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Re: My fiesta
bloody hell that looks like its been through the wars, will be good when all fitted and set up though!!
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Re: My fiesta
lol bit of rain, haha the inlet plenum was half full of water :S
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Re: My fiesta
Get a wire brush or wheel drill attatchment to clean it up, dry it off and it'll all be fine.
Still not sure on that bootlid though.
Still not sure on that bootlid though.
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Re: My fiesta
at boot lid comment!
£70 quid that cost! so change your mind lol
£70 quid that cost! so change your mind lol
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Re: My fiesta
smooth boot looks good,
get the code of the engine then,
the throttle body looks a little small to be 130spec from the pics
spark plugs corroded in the head??
get the code of the engine then,
the throttle body looks a little small to be 130spec from the pics
spark plugs corroded in the head??
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Re: My fiesta
Yeah, I'd be carfull with the plugs. Leave them to soak in somthing over night before trying to remove them
All 1.8 mk6 escorts were 115s. I would think that inlet will fit your car fine.
All 1.8 mk6 escorts were 115s. I would think that inlet will fit your car fine.
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Re: My fiesta
umm theyre a little corroded, well alot infact lol its made a rusty sludge around them, lord knows how im gonna get that out, guess ill have to scrap it all out, then yea Wd-40?
im having trouble finding an engine code tbh with you, ill have a bette rlook now its stripped to just the engine
im having trouble finding an engine code tbh with you, ill have a bette rlook now its stripped to just the engine
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Re: My fiesta
Just found this which clears it up a bit:
ECU code "JEST"
Escort 1.8 litre 16 Valve 97 on 97AB12A650JB XEF7ABJB 115BHP
ECU code "JEST"
Escort 1.8 litre 16 Valve 97 on 97AB12A650JB XEF7ABJB 115BHP
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Re: My fiesta
will you be able to use the ecu? or is there pats involved? maybe a rs1800 ecu and loom?
re the plugs etc, just soak them up as said above, do your best to clear the gunk and water out, and then when its all done and running drop the hot oil out after a 10 - 15min run up, that'll clear the crap out. You can get suitable oil for £7, tesco value.
re the plugs etc, just soak them up as said above, do your best to clear the gunk and water out, and then when its all done and running drop the hot oil out after a 10 - 15min run up, that'll clear the crap out. You can get suitable oil for £7, tesco value.
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Re: My fiesta
hmm so leave this oil currently in it now and do the oil change after the converion?
filter will be a pain but yea ok
im really preying i dont let anything fall in one of the cylinders or ill have to be off with the head
umm yea theres pats involved, do i HAVE to use a fiesta si 1.6 engine loom? or can i stick with the escort one i already have?
and with the pats i was thinking my mate has just done a puma converion to his mk4 and took the car and ecu to fords and they mated the key with the ecu, either making new keys or something like that
filter will be a pain but yea ok
im really preying i dont let anything fall in one of the cylinders or ill have to be off with the head
umm yea theres pats involved, do i HAVE to use a fiesta si 1.6 engine loom? or can i stick with the escort one i already have?
and with the pats i was thinking my mate has just done a puma converion to his mk4 and took the car and ecu to fords and they mated the key with the ecu, either making new keys or something like that
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jonyb4 :hmm so leave this oil currently in it now and do the oil change after the converion?
filter will be a pain but yea ok
im really preying i dont let anything fall in one of the cylinders or ill have to be off with the head
umm yea theres pats involved, do i HAVE to use a fiesta si 1.6 engine loom? or can i stick with the escort one i already have?
and with the pats i was thinking my mate has just done a puma converion to his mk4 and took the car and ecu to fords and they mated the key with the ecu, either making new keys or something like that
change the oil and the filter for dirt cheap stuff, run it for 15 mins and drop it out and change filter again. That'll clear most of the crap. What are you worried about dropping in there? If its just gunk then i wouldnt worry tbh, the above will sort it.
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Re: My fiesta
You can mate your keys to the ecu yourself if you have the red key for the new ecu. You can use either loom really although the si pats is different and no use to you as you will have to add the pats wires yourself. Choose which ever one suits your engine bay more (possibly escort loom as the ecu is in a simliar position).
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Re: My fiesta
so ill need the master red key from the escort the engine/ecu come out of?
if i cant get it does that mean i will be forced to disable my pats?
if so, i guess ill have to buy a new alarm system, if so id best start the saving lol, the cheaper the better but with a reasonable saftey system
umm as for the oil changing, do i have to do the filter too? i know its a great cause for prelonging, but buying oil and filter twice is expensive,
cheers for the input lads much appreciated
i futher more stripped the engine today, im very glad to report the spark plugs come out with no issues at all, they aint even in that bad condition, also the oil (after removing the oil breather was actually very clean, still golden infact, signs report to a recent engine service
the plugs were still sitting in a pool of rust water, so blew all that out using my air compressor, which i just found out today after struggling for a few days that i can adjust the pressure
i then cleaned with a sheet of kitchen roll the resedue and nice and clean, although the cams did get a bit dirty
anyway, on with the stripping:
started by taking a referance pic of the aux belt pattern just incase
some moments later
after removing the cam belt cover i realised the cam belt is also reasonably new, haynes manual suggests every 60,000 miles a renewal is due, this engine is on 73,000 so its safe to say i think its good for the time being, good since i can use the £60 on other things now
started to give the block and sump a little once over with vht satin black paint, using a aerosol, kidna as a primer really, so stuffed all the vitals, and removed the oil breather, thermostat housing and coil pack
then once it was done
didnt mean to paint the front of the head
rocker cover is at the cleanest state in a few months atleast all will be either sand blasted, or ill settle for a pressure wash and painting with some brush on vht, still tryign to find some decent stuff
will the sump be ok if i paint it with some normal hammerite? dont wanna buy some silver AND black vht paint if i can get away with only one got tons of silver left
i then also got started wirebrushing the exhaust manifold and then with some painting, id also like this silver, so maybe have to buy some silver vht after all
thats all for today
Jon
if i cant get it does that mean i will be forced to disable my pats?
if so, i guess ill have to buy a new alarm system, if so id best start the saving lol, the cheaper the better but with a reasonable saftey system
umm as for the oil changing, do i have to do the filter too? i know its a great cause for prelonging, but buying oil and filter twice is expensive,
cheers for the input lads much appreciated
i futher more stripped the engine today, im very glad to report the spark plugs come out with no issues at all, they aint even in that bad condition, also the oil (after removing the oil breather was actually very clean, still golden infact, signs report to a recent engine service
the plugs were still sitting in a pool of rust water, so blew all that out using my air compressor, which i just found out today after struggling for a few days that i can adjust the pressure
i then cleaned with a sheet of kitchen roll the resedue and nice and clean, although the cams did get a bit dirty
anyway, on with the stripping:
started by taking a referance pic of the aux belt pattern just incase
some moments later
after removing the cam belt cover i realised the cam belt is also reasonably new, haynes manual suggests every 60,000 miles a renewal is due, this engine is on 73,000 so its safe to say i think its good for the time being, good since i can use the £60 on other things now
started to give the block and sump a little once over with vht satin black paint, using a aerosol, kidna as a primer really, so stuffed all the vitals, and removed the oil breather, thermostat housing and coil pack
then once it was done
didnt mean to paint the front of the head
rocker cover is at the cleanest state in a few months atleast all will be either sand blasted, or ill settle for a pressure wash and painting with some brush on vht, still tryign to find some decent stuff
will the sump be ok if i paint it with some normal hammerite? dont wanna buy some silver AND black vht paint if i can get away with only one got tons of silver left
i then also got started wirebrushing the exhaust manifold and then with some painting, id also like this silver, so maybe have to buy some silver vht after all
thats all for today
Jon
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Re: My fiesta
Oil and filter aren't expensive at all at the moment, just bought a bottle of oil and a new filter for £23 filter itself is £5. Looking good tho jon, get thoroughly cleaning that engine!! Lol
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Cleaned up well As for the cam belt, take the lower cover off and make sure the idler pulleys have been replaced. These are the biggest killer on a Zetec and most people only change the belt & tensioner!
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hmm i was trying tot ake the lower section, how do i get it off lol, take the pullies off the crank and water pump? the tentioner pully is atleast new, still looks new
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Just the water pump pulley which is a nuisance to remove without a belt lol
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i always change the timing belt, because you'll kick yourself if it snaps a few months after having it running,
yours has been left out in the weather aswell,
yours has been left out in the weather aswell,
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Re: My fiesta
dont see the point on a unworked 1.8 zetec tbh, you can buy another engine for less than the cost of a cambelt kit, hence why the trackcar has not had one, if it goes its 2ltr o'clock
re the oil, yes of course you need to change the oil filter, the idea of that first rinse thru is to help clear the engine of the crud and water, it will cost £5 for the filter and £7 for the oil, then £25 ish for decent oil and filter.
re the oil, yes of course you need to change the oil filter, the idea of that first rinse thru is to help clear the engine of the crud and water, it will cost £5 for the filter and £7 for the oil, then £25 ish for decent oil and filter.
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Re: My fiesta
rinse thru is to help clear the engine of the crud and water
ahh lol why didnt you just say that
makes perfect sence now
and lol stop goign on aobut the 1800
plenty of ppl have choosen them over a 2.0l and have been satisfied with it
heeman and smo come to mind, and everybody with a RS1800
if i choose i want more power and to take the zetec futher ill upgrade to a 2.0 ill have the loom and mounts in place, so wont be too hard
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where did i go on about 2ltr? other than saying if the 1.8 in my car goes I'll chuck a 2ltr in?
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oh then what did you mean by this?
confused me a little
your up late
dont see the point on a unworked 1.8 zetec tbh
confused me a little
your up late
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Re: My fiesta
jonyb4 :oh then what did you mean by this?dont see the point on a unworked 1.8 zetec tbh
confused me a little
your up late
Just meant if you aint done any expensive bits to the engine then you can replace it cheaper than doing a cambelt on it
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