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Re: My fiesta

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:24 pm

oh i get you, well thats the good thing, most the parts id use on this will be able to fit onto a 2.0l anyway so i aint losing much, mind if i done something like say a pair of uprated cams, then thats a different story

but can always sell stuff like that

thanks for the concern though mate :)
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Re: My fiesta

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:58 pm

ok a very tiny update but none the less, was worth a photo :D

went down to the robbing baxtered at halfrauds to puck up some brush on vht as my local factor dont do any brush on's

i choose red, strangely enough was £1 more! at £6.99

so back at the garage:
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before
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after 1 coat
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shall do one more tomorrow, both sides of the block ofcourse, ill leave the sump black

also ive decided on a rocker cover colour, or colours i should say

im goign to spray the whole thing in graphite grey then detailing like the ford and II 16v Zetec in red, then laquer the whole thing, i may also do the line indents in red too, but dont wanna go over board


a little thing thats been on my mind is wether or not to convert to Power steering, its not too bad without it (only being the driver in the car atleast) its better if anything in this situation

but it wil be free to fit as i have got the parts, will feel better when parking or carring passengers, and will up the whole value of the car

but the engine will loose "some" power and ill lose my "pure" feel when cornering

whats peoples thoughts?
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Re: My fiesta

Postby rslove on Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:22 am

jesus theres a few pages on her to look through took me ages lol good work fella :D
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Re: My fiesta

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:19 pm

lol cheers mate
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Re: My fiesta

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:52 pm

ok little more paint work today, which im still not finished with lol, gotta pop back down later

anyway firstly the rocker cover

First coat of primer
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my "oven"
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after the final layer of primer
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and then a second coat of paint
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also with some inspiration from nomad

decided to paint some of my pullies and cam sprokets, pullies are going white

first coat
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:57 am

ok finishing off today with the rest of painting done, excuse the hour, but was a bit awake around midnight :rolleyes:

ok now first off i painted the crank pully and water pump pully white, then while waiting for them to dry i thought it try painting the back of the pully on the water pump red, then some dripped on the crank pully so i tryed to blend it in, and ended with a right mess! :aaah:

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meanwhile i had painted the rocker cover, and detailed the text on it, also this was a bit of a mess, with the paint going onto the background a little, ill do my best to clean this up tomorrow :(

the fridge i paint things on has seen more colours than a tv screen :rolleyes:

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unhappy with this i let them dry a bit and once again returned to try and rectify what the mess i created on the pullies :rolleyes:

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and now started to put the engine back together
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:11 am

noticed this when i was stripping it, somekind of pipe connector was broken :oooh:
the little one just above the main water inlet pipe

luckily i still have the thermostat housing off my si

so swapped the parts over
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this little fella was sitting inside, nice that i have a spare incase mine goes
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all done, i also have now put my si HT leads on as i broke one of the escort ones it come on, plus they were red, these are black and more subtle :aviator:
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then decided to unveil the bag holding al dredded loom :oooh:
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yep not something im looking forward too lol :aaah:

and my box of the valuable bits
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can anyone give me some advice on this loom? i aint a clue, i also think that alot of the interior loom is in there, even parts of the door wiring like the electric windows, i dont know, some are also chopped so that will be a royal pain

ill take some clearer pics soon and try my best to piece things together :)

all for now :Q


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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby ~nomad~ on Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:22 pm

my advice is get a si loom, although i am not the person to ask. i will point brian at this thread, he might be better to help.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby MB7201 on Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:08 pm

The issue is the mk4 loom isnt as straight forward as the si loom. Theres 2 fuse boxes with everything going through them as opposed to the sperate engine loom on the si with a connector with the feeds.

One way as a simple fix may be to use the si loom and mount the ecu in the engine bay rather than in the car? Then you will have to trace the feeds you need from the bay fuse box and wire them into the si loom. Some feeds though will be in the interior loom/ fuse box so you will have to take them in.

If you want to put the ecu inside you have 40+ wires to splice through the fuse box using the connections gained removing the original engine wires.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:03 pm

:aaah:


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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:53 am

ok took a little trip to west wales today to see lucasdemoley and the 2.0 si he is breaking

icy roads covered in snow, 30mph was on the agenda lol
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needed a piss, so thought it be a good time for a better pic of the back end
( never eat yellow snow :lol: )
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handy "backlight" feature on my phone :Q my first shot at this angle was dark
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after abotu an hour or so of hacking, chopping and tugging, the mounting plate for the rear zetec mount come apart form the chassis, the poor fez lost a wing and front lower valance in the process :cry:

hats off to lucas, top bloke let me come away with a car full of parts for a very generous price :Q including:

front and rear engine mounts
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mid section 1.6 si exhaust
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Power steering pump and pully bracket, and a fair bit of piping to suit
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injector plate, likely 1.6 si part ill have to comfirm this though
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cast inlet manifold 1.6 si item (for now)
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sturdy mounted 2.0 throttle body
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1.6 si radiator and some piping to suit, i still have a fair few pipes from my si
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the zetec mounting plate for the rear mount, with some excess wing still attatched :lol:
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and all the niggly pipes etc, including a heat shield, Pas resevior, pas radiator and a few others
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ok now i gotta get this green mk3 ready for the mot and sort them rear brakes, and book it in, kick it out of the garage and get the mk4 in

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonboisescort on Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:19 am

looking good mate :Q
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:25 pm

two little video

one is of me getting stuck leaving lucas' farm last night, he had to tractor me out lol

http://s521.photobucket.com/albums/w332/jonyb4/?action=view&current=Video0023.flv

second is of the little crash i had tonight on my wy home from my mates house, his hill was rediculasly icy, i braked, lock up

turned nothing happend then slid into a kerb at about 10-15mph

werent happy, but its only small i guess
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby lucasdemoley on Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:37 am

He he! I hadn't driven that tractor for like 2 years, so thought I was going to reverse/ slide into you!

Did you go straight accross the cross roads by the caravan park in the end on the way home? That road was completely white!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:38 pm

ha yea i did, they were covered, i thought i was gonna get stuck up some of the hills, so i powered through

i got home fine int he end, apart from my washer jets freezing over so i had a salty windscreen, couldnt see anything by the time i got to llansamlet, had to pull over and use anti freeze to wet it lol
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jimmyesh on Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:51 pm

Lol @ the vid! :lol: Top work mate, interesting to see a "traditional" Zetec going into a MK4 as apposed to the "Puma" Zetec transplants that have been done in the past :aviator:

Looms are a mind F*ck sometimes and there's nothing else for it but some quiet space to think it through, decent wiring diagrams and plenty of patience! :)
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:20 pm

haha yea so true, im confedent in my company i can get it down , not sure hwo to read wiring diagrams though, but we will see :) need to get her bolted in first :)
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby RS rob on Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:31 pm

i'd get the wiring loom started before you take the current engine out
looking good with the progress
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:23 am

yea? how do you mean, like connect some of the connecotrs tot he engine see where they go etc?
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 1.8 16v

Postby RS rob on Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:30 pm

well your going to need to some research,
both wiring diagrams and get on with it

its not an easy or quick job to do

so my point is, enjoy your car as it still works,
then when you think its ready
change the engine over and go from there

otherwise your car will be off the road for far longer than it needs to be
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:09 pm

im a little confused to what on the loom i actually need, theres more than i think there should be :-?
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby Smo on Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:13 pm

I'd use an Si engine loom with a 115PS ECU that doesn't use PATS.

I don't know if your MK4 car loom uses an external PATS or whether it's part of your ECU?

I'm sure some, if not all, of the Escort 115PS ECUs have internal PATS, in which case it might be a bit of a nightmare. If yours has PATS, then if you get an early Mondeo 1.8 ECU you should be OK, think they're usually called 'BLOB'. Should work with an Si engine loom fine then. Connecting it up to your car loom shouldn't be too hard, but I could be wrong! My impression of the MK4 car loom may be far more simple than it really is :lol:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:29 pm

aye cheers for that mate

and on your last note, something to consider is its the 1.3 hcs engine

we all know theyre not very advanced or sophisticated, so apart from its a closed loop ecu oom, it should have extensive sensors and stuff the zetec se engines would, also it is the base model so no Air conditioning to worryed abotu or similar

if i can save the pats, great, if not ill try the mondeo ecy you mentioned, failing that ill try to disable it and look to buy an aftermarket alarm system

also, i think i will try and umake use of this escort loom first, i know it seems ignorant, but it seems to be all there and not so different to the mk4's

i will take a better look at my 1.3 loom to compair them and if its too different and i cant make it work, then i shall get the si loom, basicly if i can save the money, i will

but yet again its only £25
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby H3AL3Y on Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:17 pm

Hi mate finally joined here from the f4oc(garfiun)!
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:59 pm

heeey, good lad

im gonna be limiting how much i use that now, reached the point of just being depressing lol

get a thread made up and have a look through the modifications sections :Q

never know what you may find
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby H3AL3Y on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:13 am

Yes ill get one up tomorrow after a get home from work and i am tending to use this mor to look around and also UKFN for parts! Not many peole on the F4oc much now so im limiting on there too.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:27 am

:) liking you a bit more now mate :bonkers:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby H3AL3Y on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:33 am

Well im a very likeable person lol and I havent done much posting on here but it looks like a good forum. :)
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:38 am

lol get reading, some of these projects are midn blowing and inspiring, at 3 am it makes me wanna jump from my seat and go mess with either one of my cars lol

i really do read this at the wrong time lol
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby H3AL3Y on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:01 am

Yes i know i also like looking at the projects on the rsoc website too and ill be on here for about another hour and I get up for work at 4.30 lol.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 going zetec 16v

Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:04 am

lol sound slike me

where you work?
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Postby H3AL3Y on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:12 am

Im a cleaner in bridgend paper mills, i work 3 hours a day :( .
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Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:26 am

lol an unusual job, but its bring in money

lucky sod :lol:
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Postby H3AL3Y on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:31 am

I only got it because my father works there and ive been there 2 years and have seen the rapid decline in pay since then :cry:, i need a new job.
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Postby jonyb4 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:44 am

:( oh no
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