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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby FezzyGTI on Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:33 am

I think that's a mint idea mate :) hope it works
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby Excursion on Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:06 am

It should be the corect thickness otherwise there will be undue wear on the fingers and release bearing.

It's around 1mm IRRC.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:43 pm

cheers

aye Excursion but the clutch and bearing setup its got atm is a mix, and theyre different so it aint working, ill have to do some measuring
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:29 pm

these arrived today, cheers to cookie456_the2nd , bought the polies from Flo flex, really cheap fair do's to them, front escort arb bushes, seem identical to the mk4 fez (i still have the escort crossmemeber out the back), and Si rear arb bushes for the new beam, K&N induction kit, and now i got a spare cone and 1.6 si Maf lol (got 2 of them now)

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby Minstral on Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:09 pm

just be carefuly when u prise open the other brackets. paint it as well
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:18 pm

:)

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby niracka on Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:45 pm

Just read through the last few pages of your thread mate and its pretty cool. I'm not one for electics unless its on front of me so I must admit alot of that didn't make much sense to me however I must say you'v done a sterling job so far.

Just thaught i'd check your thread out anyways since u'v bin talking to me a little through pm. I didn't realise you live in wales. I live in St Athan near Lantwit major n barry. We should meet up sometime n take some piccy ect n u can show me some of the better driving roads in the vallys as I'v only bin here 6 months n not got out much yet lol.

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:06 am

ha cheers mate, yea the vallies near me have some cracking roads, i almost killed myself on one of them lol

yea if you wanna meet up one day great :) you can show me how the blacktops get it done :P

i live right at the foot of the afan vally, so a great drive is never far away
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby niracka on Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:24 am

Ah yea been meaning to go to afan mountain biking.

Are you going to fitp this year??? If so might be an idea to go down together prior to meeting convoy??
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:05 am

i plan to got here yea :), best get the savings going lol, yea be nice to drive with soemone from wales, ive always crossed the bridge on my own to meeds and shows :(

no buggers from wales lol

add me on msn if you want mate :) jonyb4@hotmail.co.uk
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby niracka on Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:34 pm

Theres a guy from fiesta guides living in bridgend too mate should get him out too.

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:55 pm

lol theres two! :Q ive met both fo them, good lads
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby niracka on Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:07 pm

ah nice one we [ERRR] def hav a lil meet up then
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby THEHOG~ on Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:57 pm

coming along mate good work.
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:47 pm

cheers man
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby niracka on Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:36 pm

Is she working yet man???
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:37 am

not yet,

sort of an update, bought 4 ghearbox spacer plates today off a mk4/ka 1.3 HCS and 3 off a mk3/escort HCS too

althoguht he mk3 ones have the starter onthe front, i shall cut them off, aslong as two of the palces are doing a good job of a seal, i dont mind abotu the others, each are 2mm thick, so i will have to find out how many i need simply by trial and error really, all i can do atm

failing this, i will have to buy a mk4 Diesel clutch kit, but atmt his is the cheapest option so will do this first :rolleyes:

will update when the box is off and ive fittd the plates,

also anyone know where i can buy new rear ARB brackets for a mk3?
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby Minstral on Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:55 am

rs rob has bought some for his car
diary-of-jph-2-1-zt-feb-22nd-rs-steering-wheel-updated-vt134259/page420/
reading it he said that some 1 type is still available, but the other isnt. loking at the pictures it looks like the si arb bracket sre the ones no longer available.
ask him he'll know
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:17 pm

:) i did once no one replied lol, ill pm him this time

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Box dropped, clutch knackered

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:24 pm

Well back up in the air with her...

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on its arse with fluid still in, makes things easier as fulling it up was a right ball ache

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as it was being dropped, i noticed some strands of string and what looked like fibers or hair, i thought "god its the clutch..."

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i wasnt to be wrong either... :oops:

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so yep clutch is shagged, will be needing another

not 100% on which i should get, a mk4 1.8 diesel is the same disc diametre, 210mm,
or maybe a 1.6 Zs one or 1.7 puma one?

anyone able to suggest one?
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby Rhinopower on Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:57 am

The question is, was the failure because of a faulty clutch plate, or because there is a problem with the thrust bearing?
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:12 am

niether to be fair, its simply because the clutch wasnt build to support the gearbox/slave cylinder , its just too big in width and was in contact with the housing that i pointed out

im preying that the diesel clutch fairs better, yet again im thinking its down tot he size of the flywheel and thw width of it all, so spacing it is needed

i whish i can get in touch with someone whos fitted a mk4/5 puma box to one of these engines :oops:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonboisescort on Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:02 am

ask somone whos put a cvh / rs trubo in a ka as they share the same gearbox

someone might be able to help u out
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby RS rob on Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:22 am

right i've got a few points here to make,

-why have you gone for a si arb from an older car? it would make alot more sense for you to put a zetec s rear beam on
as their known for their stiffness and good handling, so would save you dealing with old brackets etc

- a mk5 z-s clutch is 200mm and a puma is 210mm
as your going from a 1.3 ( or even 1.25 - 1.4zetecs) you'll need to change to the z-s flywheel and then the puma clutch can go straight on
the standard puma clutch was even fitted to the FRP which was 155bhp, so will be fine for you
been researching on zsoc as i've just upgraded the g/f's mk5 z-s clutch lol

the clutch slave/thrust bearing is the same on most fords puma,ka,focus,fiesta etc
but very worth while changing while your here

one more thing stay away from q&h clutches :lol:
either a new ford part, LUK etc
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby niracka on Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:44 pm

Could you not have just put the ib5 box on???
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:25 pm

cheers john ill talk to moondustka or someone similar :)

RS rob :right i've got a few points here to make,

-why have you gone for a si arb from an older car? it would make alot more sense for you to put a zetec s rear beam on
as their known for their stiffness and good handling, so would save you dealing with old brackets etc

- a mk5 z-s clutch is 200mm and a puma is 210mm
as your going from a 1.3 ( or even 1.25 - 1.4zetecs) you'll need to change to the z-s flywheel and then the puma clutch can go straight on
the standard puma clutch was even fitted to the FRP which was 155bhp, so will be fine for you
been researching on zsoc as i've just upgraded the g/f's mk5 z-s clutch lol

the clutch slave/thrust bearing is the same on most fords puma,ka,focus,fiesta etc
but very worth while changing while your here

one more thing stay away from q&h clutches :lol:
either a new ford part, LUK etc


Si arb cause its far cheaper, and due to the fact my mk4 is an early model (pre 98, when the revisions were done) so id also have to chamge my rear shocks for late mk4 or mk5 ones, costing even more

clutch ill think about, but so far im edging more for a fiesta diesel one, but i will look into the flywheels, the zetec one does seem alot larger/thicker

my slave cylinder and bearing was done 10,000 miles/ a year ago when the clutch was done


and ollie it is an iB5 box, just mk4/5 use the hydrualic version
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:43 pm

i was going up the mountain for a little spin, lol sounds odd but i love to do it, trait of living in the vallies :bonkers:

and i noticed one of the afan forest ranger gates was open, so i thought it slip in and take a look, i love forestry :rolleyes:

so i took some pics, may have been a bit over board

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some sort of wall :oooh:
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my favorite
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but then a ranger found me lol said he was gonna lock the gate, so had to leave :rolleyes:

im worried that im starting to get attached to this car lol, meant to be selling it :aaah:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby - Danny Boy - on Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:44 pm

LOL at the clutch. Im sorry :(

Honestly, thats s**t, was it new or 2nd hand clutch? :( Ive not been on for a while and cba to read it all again to jog my memory lol
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:14 pm

its not meant to be like that, not as if i was revving it while it was slipping or something, the gearbox was crushing it in the pressure plate, and it was spinning and ended up like that
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby Ratspeed on Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:55 pm

jonyb4 : i love forestry :rolleyes:


I know what you mean, gotta love bush :lol:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:26 am

LOL :rolleyes: :lol:


lol damn it i cant think of any come backs :rolleyes:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby - Danny Boy - on Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:33 am

jonyb4 :its not meant to be like that, not as if i was revving it while it was slipping or something, the gearbox was crushing it in the pressure plate, and it was spinning and ended up like that


Ohhhhhhhhhhhh i seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Best get a new clutch and some spacers put in then then sharpish :bonkers:
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v Gearbox spacer question?!

Postby jonyb4 on Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:03 am

ha tis my exsact plan! :D
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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v New clutch ordered!

Postby jonyb4 on Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:30 pm

after a local forum member left after i fitted half of his lowering spring kit (coming back for front tomorrow)

i decided to power wash the cars, bloody three of them i done :x

the mk3 was stinking with mud all over it from when i decided to do a tad of off roading :oooh:
my mother was complaining one of her fiestas doors was making an embarrising noise, its got a dented front end but this she moans about lolm, some simple high temp grease sorted that on the position lock thing in between the shuts
then washed that

done the engine bay of the mk3

and then washed my mums other car :oops: her Chrysler sebring

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we have 6 cars at our household
Dads mk1 Capri, bro's Clio, mums chrysler, mums mk4 Fiesta, my mk4 fiesta and my mk3 fiesta :aaah:

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Re: My fiesta, red mk4 s2 16v New clutch ordered!

Postby niracka on Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:49 pm

Bed your liked on your street lol. I hope this new clutch sorts you out mate. U'l have to show me what nice roads are up there to be driven and we can get some pics n vids :D

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